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Offline keith

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PP Pack worth it if modding?
« on: November 19, 2016, 07:32:25 pm »
I am looking at the MK7 GTI and while the PP is a good deal if buying new as an option, but if your modding is it really worth it if buying used.
Are the bigger brakes just more added weight so would an aftermarket setup be better
The extra 10 bhp again an aftermarket remap will nullify that.
The main one the uprated diff, is a wavetrac or peloquin better.
Granted these items are dearer than the OEM parts but they could be sold after but is it better just to get a MK7 with other options instead?.

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Re: PP Pack worth it if modding?
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2016, 08:55:20 pm »
An aftermarket diff would cost quite a bit more fitted than the £900 ish upcharge of the PP and I believe you will also get larger rear discs which should balance better with the BBK you are proposing.

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Re: PP Pack worth it if modding?
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2016, 07:19:55 pm »
So, are we saying the mk7 pp costs £900 as a new option? If so what is this worth as a secondhand option? Can't be more than £500?
If so that's incredible value for an LSD never mind the rest of the bits....
 :thinking:

Seems to me, what we are talking about is perhaps comparable to the option of attempting to upgrade your gti to Eddy type  spec...ie better to buy an Eddy in the first place than attempt to fashion one out of a stock gti? So in this case better to buy a pp gti 7?

To me, it's hard to understand why anyone would consider buying a non pp mk7, at least from new?

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Re: PP Pack worth it if modding?
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2016, 10:38:42 pm »
whose differential gets fitted to these with the PP?
Is it VW's own or something from one of the usual manufacturers?

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Re: PP Pack worth it if modding?
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2016, 09:13:19 pm »
So, are we saying the mk7 pp costs £900 as a new option? If so what is this worth as a secondhand option? Can't be more than £500?
If so that's incredible value for an LSD never mind the rest of the bits....
 :thinking:

Seems to me, what we are talking about is perhaps comparable to the option of attempting to upgrade your gti to Eddy type  spec...ie better to buy an Eddy in the first place than attempt to fashion one out of a stock gti? So in this case better to buy a pp gti 7?

To me, it's hard to understand why anyone would consider buying a non pp mk7, at least from new?

Yes from new, new facelift has upgraded power now. I am looking at used. The Eddy had cosmetic upgrades as well over the stock GTI. The PP may have better resale later i suppose.

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Re: PP Pack worth it if modding?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2017, 09:10:06 pm »
whose differential gets fitted to these with the PP?
Is it VW's own or something from one of the usual manufacturers?
Their own, but designed and made by Borg-Warner. It's actually
mechanical, but electronically controlled (contrary to Wavetrac,
Quaife, Peloquin). Volkswagen say "VAQ" while Borg-Warner call
it "FXD". I'd highly suggest doing a google search for pictures of
the internals.
If you're aiming for performance, the PP is the right starting point.
Both diff and brakes are great value, whether you buy it new or
used.


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Re: PP Pack worth it if modding?
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2017, 06:02:06 pm »
I tested a gti and a gti pp back to back recently and to be honest struggled to see the benefits.

The pp was a 5dr and not sure if it's heavier but it felt no faster than the regular one which was 3dr.

Both brakes were good I think the pp brakes would start to make sense on track after longer use, but the pads fitted as standard aren't performance pads in either car so if you stick some Pagid rs4-2 on either itll be better, and the diff was only really useful in very tight turns like mini roundabouts. The rest of the time for a road car I struggled to see the difference.

If all was equal I'd have the pp for the resale but the pp car was 3k more so I went for the standard one.

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Re: PP Pack worth it if modding?
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2017, 07:58:15 pm »
Since I like to do track days or when the I have the right road conditions to drive hard, I'd get the GTI PP without a doubt. For just normal driving I wouldn't even get a GTI, a GTD would make more sense if driven enough. :smiley: