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Re: Back in the game - Cupra black
« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2017, 11:18:38 PM »
good results john...where is e tuners at

Statller in Sheffield are Etuners dealers.  :happy2:
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Re: Back in the game - Cupra black
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2017, 02:24:08 PM »
TTE470 on order, should go well once fitted.
The 6R made 7.8-7.9 for the 100-200kph sprint at 500bhp. The Cupra currently does 8.1-8.2 for the same sprint at 400bhp. The TTE470 has been proven to dip the 100-200 run down to mid 7's....so quicker than my old 6R.
Power should be 450-470bhp with similar torque and good response from the hybrid turbo. Power peak should move up to 6600-6800 rpm and so the DSG will have its rpm limit increased to around 6900-7000rpm.
Hoping for a very low 12 second run on the 1/4 mile, if not something beginning with 11.  :wink:
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Re: Back in the game - Cupra black
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2017, 07:07:45 PM »
Really like this build thread keep us updated. Looking at cupras myself for a new car but seems hard to find fully spec'd ones for a good price

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Re: Back in the game - Cupra black
« Reply #48 on: October 07, 2017, 05:32:19 PM »
Really like this build thread keep us updated. Looking at cupras myself for a new car but seems hard to find fully spec'd ones for a good price

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Re: Back in the game - Cupra black
« Reply #49 on: October 07, 2017, 07:22:06 PM »
Sorry if you've already addressed  this earlier in the thread....  but how do you find putting the power down before the mods VS after the mods ? Would you say the car copes well or does it struggle in first gear if you try and feed the power in to quickly ? The 4 wheel drive system  is the only reason I'm leaning towards a Golf R MK7 more because most of the time it's damp in England. I would prefer a cupra as you don't see much of them on the roads and I see about 4/5 golf r's everyday

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Re: Back in the game - Cupra black
« Reply #50 on: October 10, 2017, 11:36:56 PM »
Sorry if you've already addressed  this earlier in the thread....  but how do you find putting the power down before the mods VS after the mods ? Would you say the car copes well or does it struggle in first gear if you try and feed the power in to quickly ? The 4 wheel drive system  is the only reason I'm leaning towards a Golf R MK7 more because most of the time it's damp in England. I would prefer a cupra as you don't see much of them on the roads and I see about 4/5 golf r's everyday

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The car copes well with the extra power. The right foot has to be tempered in the wet but overall I prefer it to an R.
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Re: Back in the game - Cupra black
« Reply #51 on: November 04, 2017, 11:25:07 AM »
Well the TTE470 hybrid turbo went on the car Wednesday and on Thursday it was tuning time.
Keeping torque to a reasonable level for FWD the E-Tuners stage 3 mapping on the TTE470 went very well. 472bhp (478.5ps) 422lbft (572nm). Silky smooth power delivery from the E-Tuners stage 3 DSG map with crackle overrun,7krpm shift points, higher clamping pressure and quicker gearshifts. Initial results show that the TTE470 makes boost around 500rpm later than the OEM turbo ( feels better to drive with a fwd car) but holds power and torque longer. On the OEM turbo, the tuner pegged the Rev limit at 6250 as the torque and power were dropping off significantly by that point. The TTE470 makes power and torque beyond this and so the Rev limit was lifted to 7000rpm. Torque is still over 405lbft (550nm) at 6000rpm! :driver:
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Re: Back in the game - Cupra black 470bhp
« Reply #52 on: November 05, 2017, 09:56:58 AM »
Not a bad result. Would you do a full GTX3071R swap again or do you prefer the OEM hybrid turbo route?

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Re: Back in the game - Cupra black 470bhp
« Reply #53 on: November 05, 2017, 10:59:12 AM »
Awesome result! Congrats Hurdy! :congrats:

All those ponies and still stock cat back too.  :surprised:

The EA888 gen 3 are really great engines. Keep us posted with your time improvements.  :driver:

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Re: Back in the game - Cupra black 470bhp
« Reply #54 on: November 05, 2017, 11:01:34 AM »
Not a bad result. Would you do a full GTX3071R swap again or do you prefer the OEM hybrid turbo route?

Garrett has just released new smaller turbos capable of low rpm spool and great top power. Something like a GTX25 capable of pushing 500 CV.  :scared:

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Re: Back in the game - Cupra black 470bhp
« Reply #55 on: November 06, 2017, 10:47:31 AM »
Interesting. The price gap between a Garrett and hybrid turbo setup is closing down now, granted to really take full advantage of a Garrett system you'd need to build the internals up but even so it's interesting to see what is preferred. Low spool times for a 4motion road car is certainly my ideal upgrade...

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Re: Back in the game - Cupra black 470bhp
« Reply #56 on: November 12, 2017, 03:51:27 PM »
Not a bad result. Would you do a full GTX3071R swap again or do you prefer the OEM hybrid turbo route?
The TTE470 turbo is even better suited to the Cupra DSG than the OEM turbo. In drive the car came on boost before the next gearchange on the OEM turbo, whilst on the TTE the transition between gears is much smoother.
I'd not go GTX3071R again as the Cupra is FWD and the TTE is just right for this car. :happy2:
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Re: Back in the game - Cupra black 470bhp
« Reply #57 on: November 13, 2017, 09:01:58 AM »
Good sounding stuff, I'm thinking a TTE420 for my 6R but the price gap between that and a GTX3071R setup similar to your old setup is close.

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