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The best Speaker system upgrade for a 3-dr MK5 GTI
« on: December 16, 2017, 05:38:17 pm »
Hi all. I’ve been wanting to upgrade the 3-way speaker system in my car as the factory ones are can deteriorate after time. Yes they are decent speakers but they are lacking a decent bass delivery in the sound management 3-way.  I want to increase bass and clarity without a subwoofer in the boot as I’m now considering upgrading these speakers in my car. I notice that my front speakers have a 3-way composition with tops, mids and bass. Does anyone know the actual size of the lower speaker on the front doors? And also the size of speakers in the rear?

So far I’ve noticed the following options I can go for:

1. Hertz Energy ESK163L.5 - 3 Way Component System 375W
This comes with a bass, mid speakers and tweeter-  complete 3 way sound. Would the mid speaker fit my car?
2.The Focal IFVW is an upgrade to factory speakers for a MK6 golf but will it fit a MK5 golf? These are 6.5” speakers so I will need spacers I imagine.

If I go for two way components in front so I compromise the mids or does the amplifier deal with this issue?

Does anyone have a better understanding of what is the best option or any other suggestions?

What is the best option for me to upgrade please?

Do I require an amplifier to avoid distortion with these speakers as these are 2-way not 3-way?

What is the best 4ch amplifier ?
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Re: The best Speaker system upgrade for a 3-dr MK5 GTI
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2017, 07:34:07 pm »
You’ll need a decent amp, so I’d try getting the amp first (on OEM speakers) and you might be pleasantly surprised how they sound.

JL XD amps are good bang for the buck

I have a XD500 3 channel powering OEM front speakers and a JL 10” W0 sub in a “kustom” enclosure in the boot...sounds great!


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Re: The best Speaker system upgrade for a 3-dr MK5 GTI
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2017, 04:08:49 am »
You’ll need a decent amp, so I’d try getting the amp first (on OEM speakers) and you might be pleasantly surprised how they sound.

JL XD amps are good bang for the buck

I have a XD500 3 channel powering OEM front speakers and a JL 10” W0 sub in a “kustom” enclosure in the boot...sounds great!


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Hey thanks for this. I was going to use the MK5 GTI amp buy has two scart sockets so am not sure how these will connect into my car!
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Re: The best Speaker system upgrade for a 3-dr MK5 GTI
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2017, 04:17:09 am »
You’ll need a decent amp, so I’d try getting the amp first (on OEM speakers) and you might be pleasantly surprised how they sound.

JL XD amps are good bang for the buck

I have a XD500 3 channel powering OEM front speakers and a JL 10” W0 sub in a “kustom” enclosure in the boot...sounds great!


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The 10” sub.. how did you customise yours as I’m not looking to stick a bass box in the rear! Would be interested to hear how I can customise one in my car!
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Re: The best Speaker system upgrade for a 3-dr MK5 GTI
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2018, 04:24:03 pm »
Hertz and Focal are very bass shy in my experience.   You might get more responses posting in the MK5 area.


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Re: The best Speaker system upgrade for a 3-dr MK5 GTI
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2018, 11:26:30 pm »
In the search for a 'great' sound system there are many variables in it, including;

Personal music taste, sound isolation, clarity, bass, budget.

If you go into an electronics shop like Currys and listen to the headphones, you'll realise;

Cheaper headphones £80 and under- lack clarity, sound isolation and high notes but focus on mid-range and bass
Mid range headphones £140 and under- have moderate sound isolation, better clarity but still poor, no real bass but have a good mid-range.
Upper mid range £200 and below - tend to focus in bass, with good sound isolation, average clarity and a good mid -range.
High-end headphones £300+ - focus on clarity and sound isolation

Firstly the best way to improve your music system having good music! No I don't mean in taste, I mean in quality from the get go you want music to but as uncompressed as possible (higher the better), Cd's have a compression rate of 44.1 kHz, itunes mobile 128 kbps, Spotify variable through 3 settings Normal (96 kbps), High (160 kbps), and Extreme (320 kbps), I use spotify on extreme quality. So ditch the cd's and pirated music and get a good app!
(this site has music examples of differences https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/5/15168340/lossless-audio-music-compression-test-spotify-hi-fi-tidal)

Now the actual car;

The mk5 standard set up is like the cheap headphones lacking in everything, now the best way to get a great sound system is to start with noise isolation, a number of us have put in sound deadening into our cars recently. Starting at the spare wheel well, by doing this you reduce interference to your music so you'll actually hear more of it, giving the impression of a better overall system especially with regards to clarity and bass.

Next you'll want to replace the speakers the standard system are paper when did you last say "damn that a4 book sounded great", paper is used because 99% of people don't know good music. Speakers are essentially comprised of magnets, suspension and diaphragms and basically these all add to the clarity of the sound that's emitted. You what a speaker that is strong to retain it's shape during use as it won't distort and will keep it's clarity. Mine are made from Magnesium Silicate Polymer with aluminium voice coils, with heavy strong magnets, so in summary heavy speakers are better most of the time (some cheap brands fake weight), this is the cost of speakers obviously just because they're expensive doesn't mean they're good, Alpine and Pioneer are very good systems are well respected for car audio.

Headunit and Amp - this is what powers the system you can't power your car with an AA so why supply your speakers with weak signals? The RNS 310, 510 and RCD510 head units are rated up to 300watt, so I stuck with one of these as well as they allow you to personalise your settings, bass, treble etc. But obviously if you run an aftermarket headunit and amp it'll be far better, a matching system is more likely to flow in my opinion as they're made to work together. That said many aftermarket automotive trimmers choose, herts and rainbow speakers, audison amps (all on the expensive end of the individual brands) and then pioneer headunit.

Hope that helps your decision.



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Re: The best Speaker system upgrade for a 3-dr MK5 GTI
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2018, 08:25:15 am »
You’ll need a decent amp, so I’d try getting the amp first (on OEM speakers) and you might be pleasantly surprised how they sound.

JL XD amps are good bang for the buck

I have a XD500 3 channel powering OEM front speakers and a JL 10” W0 sub in a “kustom” enclosure in the boot...sounds great!


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The 10” sub.. how did you customise yours as I’m not looking to stick a bass box in the rear! Would be interested to hear how I can customise one in my car!

Sorry - completely missed the reply!

This is the box I have:



Can still get the pram and loads of kiddy stuff in the boot


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Re: The best Speaker system upgrade for a 3-dr MK5 GTI
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2018, 09:51:06 am »
I'm looking to add an amp to my front speakers. I've found a Rockford Fostgate PBR300x2

They are tiny, Like the size of a VHS tape. I'm wondering if there'd be space for it in the dash somewhere. Its got high-level inputs so I can tap into the speaker wires from my factory HU. It powers up when it detects a signal on the speaker wires so no need for a remote cable.

http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/pbr300x2/

I had a set of Rainbow 6.5 Components, an RE SE12 Sub and a DLS A3 Amp in my old 6n2 polo, probably why I'm half deaf in my right ear now.
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Re: The best Speaker system upgrade for a 3-dr MK5 GTI
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2018, 10:38:02 am »
Yeah these modern class D amps are tiny, with the added benefit of running cool too, so can probably go in the dash no worries.

I like that sub box pictured above.  Was it home made or bought like that?

I've been tempted to get back into ICE again but I'm reluctant to have £1000s of kit sitting out in the street like I used to, and running fat wires everywhere.  Plus all the rattles and vibrations that go with high powered installs!

Do the factory radios, RNS510 in particular, actually sound any good through an amp via the RCAs?   The tonal balance out of the speaker outputs is bloody awful, especially the bass curve.  No depth at all, just boxy and droney sounding.  Probably not helped by the front mids firing at your thighs instead of being at the front where they should be.
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