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SACHS RACE ENGINEERING PERFORMANCE Coilover
« on: January 28, 2012, 10:20:14 am »
As some of you know I run the Sachs Performance coilover. It still isn't as popular
like KW Variant 3 or Bilstein B16 coilovers because Sachs concentrates on OEM
and top class motorsports.
So Ferrari F1 runs Sachs suspensions and so do McLaren, Brawn or Volkswagen
Motorsport with their Sciroccos and GTI24.

The Sachs Performance coilover is developed by the racing division called ''SRE''
(Sachs Race Engineering). They just make it for a couple of cars (BMW 1 & 3 series,
Lotus Elise, Exige and Opel/Vauxhall Speedster, Porsche Boxster & 911, Volkswagen
Group PQ35/36 > Golf V/VI, A3, Scirocco, Octavia etc.).





current shape front spring:


Construction is similar to Bilstein's B16 PSS10, so with mono tube upside down and
damper adjustment bump + rebound with a single knob, but 20 klicks instead of 10.





SACHS RACE ENGINEERING

http://www.sachsperformance.com/Sachs-Performance-Coilover-Suspension/Seat/Seat-Altea-5P1-03-04-%3E/2-0-TDI-125kW-03-06-/Sachs-Performance-Coilover-Suspension::443.html

TÜV certificate

damper adjustment

fitting instructions


http://www.autops.co.uk/product.asp?catalog=020904&productid=311141&order=&manu=


Sachs did some changes since introduction. Most obvious is the different shape and
rate of the front springs. I first had the early type and later got the newer version
(for free).

After this it feels perfectly balanced. Ride comfort and handling depend on damper
setting of course. Set to full soft ('-20') is just little bit more planted than stock, set
to '0' (full stiff) it feels like a race car (although I would not set it on full stiff even for
track use).

Car feels much more planted and 'safe' on high  speeds. Braking from Vmax isn't a
thrill no more.

Changing damper setup is a thing of just two minutes. So it's easy to experiment
with different adjustments. A very helpful point in particular on track.


Because Rex liked this picture:  :wink:


« Last Edit: January 28, 2012, 02:23:27 pm by the bruce »
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Re: SACHS RACE ENGINEERING PERFORMANCE Coilover
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2012, 11:19:56 am »

They look awesome Holger  :party: :party:

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Re: SACHS RACE ENGINEERING PERFORMANCE Coilover
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2012, 11:34:21 am »
The look the part.  Very Bilstein B16 esque.

but £1783.50  :scared: :scared: :scared:

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Re: SACHS RACE ENGINEERING PERFORMANCE Coilover
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2012, 02:13:48 pm »
Currently they sell it in Germany for only 1330,-- €* if you click on 'Volkswagen' and then 'Scirocco'.  :wink:

http://www.sachsperformance.com/Sachs-Performance-Gewindefahrwerke:::3221.html

Don't ask me why !!  :grin:



*  that's ~ 1118.-- pounds if I'm right
« Last Edit: January 28, 2012, 02:17:01 pm by the bruce »
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Re: SACHS RACE ENGINEERING PERFORMANCE Coilover
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2012, 02:24:31 pm »
Currently they sell it in Germany for only 1330,-- €* if you click on 'Volkswagen' and then 'Scirocco'.  :wink:

http://www.sachsperformance.com/Sachs-Performance-Gewindefahrwerke:::3221.html

Don't ask me why !!  :grin:



*  that's ~ 1118.-- pounds if I'm right

About what I paid for the V3s  :happy2:

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Re: SACHS RACE ENGINEERING PERFORMANCE Coilover
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2012, 02:39:35 pm »
Currently they sell it in Germany for only 1330,-- €* if you click on 'Volkswagen' and then 'Scirocco'.  :wink:

http://www.sachsperformance.com/Sachs-Performance-Gewindefahrwerke:::3221.html

Don't ask me why !!  :grin:



*  that's ~ 1118.-- pounds if I'm right


Ahhh, same if you klick on 'Golf VI'. And also same weights like Scirocco (but different to Mk.V).
But will fit Mk.Vs as well of course. I don't see any significant difference in weight between
Mk.V and Mk.VI.

The above price sounds like a good deal.
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Re: SACHS RACE ENGINEERING PERFORMANCE Coilover
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2012, 05:17:24 pm »
Sachs stuff is superb. Do you have to rebuild them every x-miles??
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Re: SACHS RACE ENGINEERING PERFORMANCE Coilover
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2012, 08:00:33 pm »
Not that I know, Tony.  :smiley:

But I already run them for almost three years and last summer I got new rear dampers
and new front springs (for free). New dampers with improved adjustment seals + the
front springs have a different geometry.

If I change the car (and if it will be a GTI again) I will also send the front dampers to
SRE for a check and possibly a rebuilt. No problem at all at the moment, just to be on
the safer side for the next years.

The engineer at SRE was a kind guy, so I'm sure we'll find a way at reasonable cost
if sometimes a rebuilt is neccessary.
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Re: SACHS RACE ENGINEERING PERFORMANCE Coilover
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2012, 11:07:36 pm »
I love the gaiters - obviously designed for a road car in mind.  :wink: :congrats:

Sachs make some really top quality stuff.  :happy2:
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Re: SACHS RACE ENGINEERING PERFORMANCE Coilover
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2012, 10:31:13 am »
Whats the corrosion resistance like on these? Bilsteins are awful!

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Re: SACHS RACE ENGINEERING PERFORMANCE Coilover
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2012, 04:34:42 pm »
Guess front struts and rear dampers are zinc plated. Rear sping supports are anodised aluminium alloy.
No issues after three winter seasons with lots of salt. No rust on springs also.
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Re: SACHS RACE ENGINEERING PERFORMANCE Coilover
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2012, 01:09:32 pm »
Whats the corrosion resistance like on these? Bilsteins are awful!

Which Bilsteins are you referring to?

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Re: SACHS RACE ENGINEERING PERFORMANCE Coilover
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2015, 08:24:47 pm »
Hey Bruce, do you still have the Sachs coilover?

Can you post here more opinions? How does it perform on the track?
Any chance to make a versus against Bilstein B16PSS10?

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Re: SACHS RACE ENGINEERING PERFORMANCE Coilover
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2015, 07:08:29 pm »
Hey Bruce, do you still have the Sachs coilover?

Can you post here more opinions? How does it perform on the track?
Any chance to make a versus against Bilstein B16PSS10?
Sold the car with it. No complaints. I would buy it again (or an Öhlins).
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