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Re: Mk6 CW GTi
« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2012, 12:03:43 am »
Are you getting ~350lb/ft and ~300bhp from that little turbo!!?  That's mad.  I thought these sort of numbers were reserved for Ed.30's, nice car.

You will get around 250 horses and 345 lbft as it's the same engine in my Skoda.  :happy2:

That'll teach me to read the whole thread. Above figures for stage 1.  :smiley:

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Re: Mk6 CW GTi
« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2012, 08:02:39 am »
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Thanks for feedback chaps :happy2:

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Re: Mk6 CW GTi
« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2012, 11:37:19 am »
Are you getting ~350lb/ft and ~300bhp from that little turbo!!?  That's mad.  I thought these sort of numbers were reserved for Ed.30's, nice car.

You will get around 250 horses and 345 lbft as it's the same engine in my Skoda.  :happy2:
So basically only more torque over a stage1 car no more Bhp. In which case for the extra cost involved I think stage1 is as far as I will go.
Ex mk5 GTI owner, moved to a mk6 in 2010.

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Re: Mk6 CW GTi
« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2012, 12:40:00 pm »
Thanks Paul, hoping to get some 10/12mm spacers in the New Year as wheels sit too far into the arches for my liking.

yeah thats why im keeping my stock R wheels as they fill the arches nice , just needs to be a tad lower

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Re: Mk6 CW GTi
« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2012, 03:36:10 pm »
Are you getting ~350lb/ft and ~300bhp from that little turbo!!?  That's mad.  I thought these sort of numbers were reserved for Ed.30's, nice car.

You will get around 250 horses and 345 lbft as it's the same engine in my Skoda.  :happy2:
So basically only more torque over a stage1 car no more Bhp. In which case for the extra cost involved I think stage1 is as far as I will go.


Nope look at the graphs, as near as damn it 300bhp at stage 2 which is at least another 25-30 bhp, with Kenny's car achieving these figures with the exhaust and intake I bought from him  :wink:

Dry roads today has enabled me to have a bit of a play, power is absolutely relentless from 3k rpm :evilgrin:

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Re: Mk6 CW GTi
« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2012, 05:38:31 pm »
Frankly I'm shocked a Stage 1 TSI can achieve 345lb/ft of torque from that small turbo... iirc it's smaller than the K03... it must be more on the TSI motor over the FSI motor than the turbo itself - what sort of boost you running?

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Re: Mk6 CW GTi
« Reply #36 on: December 23, 2012, 06:16:11 pm »
i test drove a 2010 golf gti , was very good ...The engine felt more responsive and with the dsg it felt very very nice

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Re: Mk6 CW GTi
« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2012, 08:40:02 pm »
........ I think stage1 is as far as I will go.


Are you stage 1 now, Geoff?

I'm after a mk6 GTI in a year or so  :happy2:

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Re: Mk6 CW GTi
« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2012, 09:14:49 pm »
No but I've driven Kens a few times and once the winters over and its out of warrenty I probably will be but I want to make sure its working right again first so prob will stick on a RR before end of March.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2012, 09:20:41 pm by Snoopy »
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Re: Mk6 CW GTi
« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2012, 09:28:24 pm »
Theres a RR day at PTD in SUnderland in Feb  :wink:

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Re: Mk6 CW GTi
« Reply #40 on: December 24, 2012, 09:24:57 am »
So a stage 1 mk6 GTI makes more torque than a stage 1 K04  :surprised: Or are these graphs very optimistic

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Re: Mk6 CW GTi
« Reply #41 on: December 24, 2012, 09:32:03 am »
« Last Edit: December 24, 2012, 09:34:59 am by Snoopy »
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Re: Mk6 CW GTi
« Reply #42 on: December 24, 2012, 09:39:35 am »
  :More graphs of stage 2
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=178682.0


Quoting someone on that page
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Firstly, they recorded 246bhp from a standard mk6 on the dyno.

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Re: Mk6 CW GTi
« Reply #43 on: December 24, 2012, 09:54:02 am »
Quoting some more people from that page...

Heres my results   :laugh: Murder to hold down in the wet!


Dyno dynamic is the ones thats normally quite acurate iirc? :cool:

 :surprised: :wink:

To be fair dyno graphs need to be taken with a pinch of salt as the numbers can be tweaked to read the numbers you want to see, and by no means am I insisting my car has 'X' power figure just trying to get a feel for what's possible.

I am hoping to have a rolling road session ASAP and would love to come along to one with modded MK5's running as same day and conditions would give a realistic comparison.

All I do know is the car is absolutely brutal, and surprisingly feels quicker than my old EP3 Civic Type-R which was running around 285bhp with a Jackson Racing supercharger and I would guess around 150-200kgs lighter.

What I have learnt is that VAG turbo tuning unleashes a fair few additional horsepower for very little cash compared to the Honda scene, it was wallet busting unless you went forced induction.....which didn't come cheap either  :grin:

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Re: Mk6 CW GTi
« Reply #44 on: December 24, 2012, 10:17:32 am »
Numbers aside, what I don't like about the smaller turbos, is there inability to hold the boost creating spikey torque maps... on both mk5/mk6; where as the K04 holds boost over more of the rev range... the Aero Saabs were like this too.  This comes down to larger turbos I guess.  It does make them slightly more laggy to spool.