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Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2015, 11:22:08 pm »
Quadlock connection on the back seems to be a little bit different compared, for example, to an RNS510.

This pic is from the back of the new unit (5C0 035 680):


Compared to RNS510:

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/images/a5/nav/rns510-pin-diagram.jpg
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Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2015, 12:12:27 am »
Nice work guys, quadlock should be 8X0035444 checked on ETKA and seems good, comes up with this on google search...



Part number variantions with the head units in regards to A B C versions is with/without DAB/chinese market etc

EDIT: the grey 12pin shown below goes by part number 8X0035447B
« Last Edit: June 23, 2015, 12:20:45 am by Golf_GT_TDI »

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Good link from supercati, seems to contain a lot of info!- http://www.drive2.ru/b/1797054/

Subscribed to this thread - really interested to see if this is a possible retro fit, keep up the research guys  :notworthy:
Noticed on the video the MFD has speed limit detection, lane departure warning etc... This could mean that the MK5 gateway and CECM may not be compatable - MK6 has a different system if memory serves correct. Also noticed the car it was working in has the three dials on the centre top dash. I don't think this is possible with MK5 electronics architecture either

I'd imagine it will require a BAP compatible cluster to display in the MFD. Same as the RNS 315. So will probably work in any Mk6 or a Mk5 with the new cluster.

Not sure about gateway compatibility but the part must exist and they aren't usually expensive.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2015, 05:59:30 pm by J400uk »
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Subscribed to this thread - really interested to see if this is a possible retro fit, keep up the research guys  :notworthy:
Noticed on the video the MFD has speed limit detection, lane departure warning etc... This could mean that the MK5 gateway and CECM may not be compatable - MK6 has a different system if memory serves correct. Also noticed the car it was working in has the three dials on the centre top dash. I don't think this is possible with MK5 electronics architecture either

I'd imagine it will require a BAP compatible cluster to display in the MFD. Same as the RNS 315. So will probably work in any Mk6 or a Mk5 with the new cluster.

Not sure about gateway compatibility but the part must exist and they aren't usually expensive.
Iv got a MK6 colour MFD hybrid in my MK5 so even more interested if this can work now  :party: Isn't it a BCM the MK6 uses though?

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Subscribed to this thread - really interested to see if this is a possible retro fit, keep up the research guys  :notworthy:
Noticed on the video the MFD has speed limit detection, lane departure warning etc... This could mean that the MK5 gateway and CECM may not be compatable - MK6 has a different system if memory serves correct. Also noticed the car it was working in has the three dials on the centre top dash. I don't think this is possible with MK5 electronics architecture either

I'd imagine it will require a BAP compatible cluster to display in the MFD. Same as the RNS 315. So will probably work in any Mk6 or a Mk5 with the new cluster.

Not sure about gateway compatibility but the part must exist and they aren't usually expensive.
Iv got a MK6 colour MFD hybrid in my MK5 so even more interested if this can work now  :party: Isn't it a BCM the MK6 uses though?

 I don't know if the BCM would impact the head unit as that's separate. BAP is the protocol the cluster users for communication which yours will have.

Wonder who will be the first in the UK to attempt a retrofit!

Also can't remember if mentioned but apparently the Mk6 Golf Convertible will be getting these imminently which will be very interesting to see, especially if one ends up at a breakers yard...
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On another note, the new scirocco dials as shown in the picture on previous page..... does that look like it'll fit a MK5?
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I managed to get few more pics of the unit  :happy2:. I do not have it (unluckily), but someone sent me some pics of this unit so here they go!













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« Last Edit: June 23, 2015, 08:14:00 pm by supercati »
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Black = DAB
Whites = FM/AM
Blue = Phone??
Beige/Yellow = ???

Anyone enlighten me?

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Black is DAB, Blue is GPS, White is AM/FM antennae, Beige is for external media I think (no special aerial for HD radio I dont think)
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Oh yeah - GPS  :signLOL:
External media like MDI?

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Beige/Yellow = ???
Others since covered while I was typing, so to cover the one left.. it is a 4pin HSD (high speed data) Fakra connector, guessing media input?

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I have the reverse camera on my rns510 which had a separate connector that doesn't seem to be on this unit - any ideas if this would work on the new system?

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The yellow could be for USB input.

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Mornin' guys i saw your disscution here ,and it seems to me its not a straight swap. I could get one of theese media units cheap but it seems to be something different with the one i've found..

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One italian fitted one in his Golf VI, but still isn't working:



http://www.vwitalia.it/forum/f108/gtd-vitopon-6655-569.html They have info on this page and onwards about some investigation they're making for the cables and rear quadlock.

Mornin' guys i saw your disscution here ,and it seems to me its not a straight swap. I could get one of theese media units cheap but it seems to be something different with the one i've found..
http://img32.olx.ro/images_mercadorro/56663231_1_1000x700_navigatie-originala-vw-golf-7-si-alte-piese-sh-vw-golf-7-suceava.jpg

Look at the photos, the one you're showing us it's different shape. The one we're talking about it's RNS/RCD shape  :smiley:.
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