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Title: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on June 26, 2018, 08:41:04 pm
Hi everyone!

Even thought this is not a specialized Porsche forum, I enjoy spending time over here are talking to you.
So, I would like to open this topic to share with you what's happening to the, new to me, Porsche Cayman Black Edition.

First question: why Porsche Cayman?
Simple: Porsche sport cars have always been a dream for me. Of course, I dreamt of 911 variants - because I did not like the styling of the 987 Cayman. But that all changed in 2013 when the 981 Cayman was unveiled. I like the new styling very much and the majority of the car magazines praised the chassis and the handling of the new Porsche. They considered the chassis to be the best in it's class especially for the money (they made some comments that it was the best chassis up to Ferrari 458 money - which says a lot). The handling was considered better that the 911 and, very important to me, very predictable.
I spent many days configuring a 981 Black Edition with LSD, Adaptive Dampers, Sport Exhaust and Sport Chrono Package. But, mid 2016 the 981 was discontinued and Porsche started with the 718 Cayman.
The 718 Cayman was (still is) just a bit better than the 981. The steering is a bit improved, the rear axle is from the 981 GT4, the brakes are better, the infotainment system is much better BUT it gave up the previous 6 cylinder boxer engine for a turbocharged 4 cylinder boxer engine. All the reviews said the new car is much faster than the previous one, but that the engine sound is really not suitable for the rest of the car ("The engine is a normal 4 pot, it's not a Porsche Engine").

By the begging of the year I had enough money to make a down payment for my dream car. The 911 was out of my budget (they were 100k EURO plus) so I had to chose between the 981 Cayman or the 982 Cayman (718).
I originally thought of buying the Porsche new. So I contacted the Romanian Porsche dealer and I settled for 2 configurations:
- 718 Cayman Manual with  LSD, Adaptive Dampers, Sport Exhaust and Sport Chrono Package and a few other comfort bits
- 718 Cayman GTS Manual with all of the above (standard anyway) and a few comfort bits
Out of these 2 I decided to go for the GTS because the delivery date was 2 months earlier than the normal variant. Unfortunately, right when I was suppose to make the down payment, the dealer told me I would have to pay a bit (10% of the full price) more than we agreed initially. I was a bit upset of this turnaround of events and a bit confused because he was not actually gaining anything with this move.
In the meanwhile I was watching the pre-owned cars daily on Porsche.de. I've see a car extremely close to my ideal configuration:
Black Edition which came with the following extras
- black exterior and leather black interior
- 20 inch Carrera Classic wheels
- Bi-Xenon headlights with cornering
- Porsche Communication Module with Navigation
- automatic dual climate control (yes, this is an extra for a 50k+ EURO car)
- heated seats
- parking sensors
- Sound Package Plus
- cruise control
- other bits and pieces

And on top of that the following extras
- Porsche Active Suspension Management - adjustable dampers and 10mm reduced hight
- Porsche Torque Vectoring - rear LSD and individual braking of the interior back wheel
- Sport Chrono - adaptive engine mounts and rev matching
- Sport Exhaust
- Leather Package - leather on the lower door cards.
- multifunction steering wheel
- interior alarm
- exterior Aluminum around the windows
- Porsche Vehicle Tracking System

and after the discussions with the Romanian Dealer, I decided to buy it.

Of course, it was not as easy as buying it straight away... The Porsche Dealer Fulda would not sell the car to me directly because I am from Romania. I am pretty sure the EURO's have the same color over here but some companies have this approach... So I went to my old VW Dealer, who now had a Used Cars division, and I got to buy the car from them (of course with their commission on top). Here are the pictures from the collection day.

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And after I brought it home:

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First impressions: it is an awesome car. Much, much better than I though.
As you might know, I drive a 1.4 TSI 160hp mk5 and a 1.4 MPI 85hp Ibiza. So, the power of the Porsche is more than enough.
But not the power was not the only thing that surprised me it was:
- the clutch is hard similar to racing cars
- the gear stick is in the ideal position and the gear change is much more mechanical
- the engine sound (intake & exhaust) are coming from behind the driver
- you sit very low and you get to see the nice front arches from inside and the "hips" by looking in the mirror.
- the engine sound is INCREDIBLE
- the rev matching (that comes with the Sport Chrono Package) is probably the best thing on this car
- the handling is different to the Golf, I got to oversteer a few times in the Porsche (by driving it at about 7/10) and the car is still very unpredictable for me (btw, it's the first time I regularly drive a RWD car)

I will leave other pictures and stories for the following posts.
BTW, tomorrow, I am going to Hungaroring to test it on the F1 Track.

Comments are always welcomed, thanks for watching and sorry for the long post  :drinking:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on June 27, 2018, 04:27:48 pm
Just came home from the first track day with the Porsche and what a day it was...
But before I go into more details, I will continue with the events chronologically...

I received the car mid February with summer tires. It Romania winter is not to be taken lightly and since for winter tires and rims I would have to wait until the end of March I decided to use the car with the summer tires but only when the weather allowed it.
In the meanwhile I had to a take a business trip, so I did not miss it that much...
When I returned I started to drive the Porsche more and more and I got to enjoy it that much more.

As some of you know, my Golf has had a lot of modification to everything except the engine. The Porsche is much sportier and much more comfortable than the Golf (even with 16 inch rims)!
Dynamically, the Cayman is totally different to the Golf. I got a few surprising oversteers at the beginning... But I got a bit more used to the rwd and mid-engine feeling.
And as you know, this post is worthless without pictures so:

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Next up, the Hungaroring trip.
Stay tuned!  :driver:
 
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: teo_parvu on June 28, 2018, 07:26:13 am
I'm glad that you've decided to stick with the forum and present the car here. This is a dream car and somehow VAG related.
I know that the Hungaroring report will be awesome, can't wait.  :happy2: 
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on July 01, 2018, 05:26:41 pm
Thanks buddy!
Well, yes, Porsche belongs to VAG :).

So, like I said, Hungaroring with the Porsche was very, very interesting...
First of all, a bit of intro...
This year I was a bit unlucky when it came to attending trackdays. Whenever a trackday was announced I was either on vacation or on a business trip. So, this year I couldn't attend any.
A friend of mine posted the ad for the 26th of June, when an event was organized at Hungaroring. Of course, I had to be in Italy for a business trip. But, 4 days before going I found out another colleague could take my place so I quickly regrouped and made the reservation to attend the Hungaroring event. I also took a friend with me who rented a 718 Cayman S.
So, on the day of the event I went to Hungaroring to find out it was a very exclusive private event. You can see it by the cars attending:

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I carried on like I did not have the cheapest car :). I've setup my cameras, the VBox, reduced the tire pressure and got going.
The track was opened throughout the day (open pitlane) and there were no sessions like there are on a public trackday. I do as may laps I wished but, because the car is 100% stock I set up a target of 30-40 laps in order not to kill it.

During the whole day I got to understand the car better and better. And boy, what a car it is:
- incredible sound - finally my car cars sounds like a proper sports car



- incredible grip and traction - I could really use more power
- the brakes are ok but they get hot very fast - I could only do 3 hot laps per "session" with a cool-down lap after each hot lap. After these the brakes and the tires were no longer ok
- the tires Pirelli PZero were ok-ish for stock tires
- because of the tires the car was a bit unpredictable and not consistent (too low pressure at the beginning, to high pressure at the end and the grip was alternating)
- I left the EPS on (the ESP has a special program if I select the Sport Plus setup, which I did, that allows more movement) and I felt it was restricting me in some parts. But I am not yet brave enough to deactivate it completely.

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My best time was 2:15.5 that is more than 6 seconds faster than my best lap with the Golf (2:21.6).
The videos will follow in a few weeks (I have to do a lot of editing to overlay the dashboard) - hopefully before going to Nurburgring (July 21st).
Thanks for watching!  :drinking:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: eddie pk on July 03, 2018, 04:46:23 pm
thanks for this thread not sure how i missed it, a great line up of cars , i cant stop looking at caymans at the moment , not sure where it has come from , i am hoping it will go away - it isnt !... will be interesting to see if the 981 drops much in value over the next few years or becomes even more sort after .. what was your friends view of the rented 718 in comparison?..
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on July 03, 2018, 08:36:55 pm
Thanks for the kind words.
I don't see 981 Caymans dropping in value anytime soon. In fact, there are cheaper 718 variants (newer, fewer miles, similar or better equipment) than 981's - I kind off browse the porsche.de used cars section a few times a week to see if something more interesting appears. Up until now, no real competitor for my car has appeared - looks like I've made the right move at the right time.

Unfortunately my friend did not drive the 718S (the owner changed the brakes a day before and something happened on his way to Hungaroring - by the time he got there the pads were almost entirely gone and the discs were severely cracked). By talking to the owner (also a driving instructor) I think the 718 S is much faster than my car but:
- more power & more speed = needs much bigger brakes for serious track usage (more than I do)
- no LSD and apparently it is needed (I never felt I needed one, maybe because I have one...)
- since it's turbo charged it needs more cooling than my NA 981 for extensive track usage

I don't regret buying the Cayman, not even a little bit. It is truly an awesome car and I would definitely recommend getting one especially with the 6 cylinder engine.
If so, please get the Sport Exhaust and if you get the Manual version the Sport Chrono is also a must (for the rev matching).
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rdfcpete on July 04, 2018, 11:00:12 pm
Absolutely stunning Rex, I can't agree more with what you've said and I'm happy for you with such a great daily track car  :evilgrin:

I, similarly to you, went from four front wheel drive hatchbacks (none of any huge power) to a RWD daily which is now 330hp and 685nm torque in my 430d M Sport - I realise what I've been missing all those years with RWD and the everyday opportunity to tail squirm, slide, oversteer and spin the rears up for sheer joy  :laugh: :wink: :signLOL:

The chassis equally isn't bad on mine, but nowhere near what yours has to offer and I'm well placed to know-how as I lap a 987 Cayman GTS round the ring a good few times a year, of which is another stunning car - fairly identical to yours all round  :happy2:

The baby Porsche's are way, way better than anyone can expect or object to on-track in braking, cornering and lap time abilities.
I won't drive a GT4 until next year but I fully expect that to be the perfect balance of all the above, perhaps only 5-10% better all round than an S or GTS because they are genuinely, that good  :drool:

Look after it, stay safe but certainly enjoy every moment  :party:
Envious but very pleased for you  :happy2:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: Shoduchi on July 05, 2018, 03:15:36 pm
Glad you share your experience with your Porsche here. It's a dream car for anyone who likes to drive for fun. :drinking:




Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on July 05, 2018, 09:39:22 pm
Absolutely stunning Rex, I can't agree more with what you've said and I'm happy for you with such a great daily track car  :evilgrin:

I, similarly to you, went from four front wheel drive hatchbacks (none of any huge power) to a RWD daily which is now 330hp and 685nm torque in my 430d M Sport - I realise what I've been missing all those years with RWD and the everyday opportunity to tail squirm, slide, oversteer and spin the rears up for sheer joy  :laugh: :wink: :signLOL:

The chassis equally isn't bad on mine, but nowhere near what yours has to offer and I'm well placed to know-how as I lap a 987 Cayman GTS round the ring a good few times a year, of which is another stunning car - fairly identical to yours all round  :happy2:

The baby Porsche's are way, way better than anyone can expect or object to on-track in braking, cornering and lap time abilities.
I won't drive a GT4 until next year but I fully expect that to be the perfect balance of all the above, perhaps only 5-10% better all round than an S or GTS because they are genuinely, that good  :drool:

Look after it, stay safe but certainly enjoy every moment  :party:
Envious but very pleased for you  :happy2:
Thanks for the comment  :happy2:!
Yes, RWD is totally different and much more entertaining!
Not so sure what you meant with the "987 GTS".... Is it a typo and you were refereeing to the 981 GTS? If so, it should be identical to my car except the engine, the brakes and the stilling. The only sportier setup is with the Sport Suspension witch comes with thicker ARB's (and the GT4, of course).
I am sure you will enjoy the GT4 - a bit of a dream car for me but not usable as a daily (low splitter, no parking sensors, etc).

Totally agree about event the "baby Porsche" being a very, very well sorted car. I can't imagine how a GT3 or GT3 RS feels... BTW, that will be the next Porsche I buy (if any), of course a long time from now  :smiley:

Pete, we have a saying in Romania "iti doresc ce-mi doresti tu mie si sa ti se intample tie", which translates to "I wish everything you wished me will happen to you"  - aka stay safe and enjoy the 430 or the occasional Porsche drives!

Glad you share your experience with your Porsche here. It's a dream car for anyone who likes to drive for fun. :drinking:
Wouldn't go anywhere else  :signLOL: I think a lot of people no longer have their MK5's but still stick around for the company.
Yup, it really is a dream car... I still can't believe I've bought it  :pomppomp:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on July 07, 2018, 05:17:49 pm
I am returning with the video  :wink: ...



And a few words about the video...
I have had 6 fast laps, out of which I am showing 4, the rest were either with more traffic or with more mistakes.
As you can see, the laptimes are: 2:15.7, 2:15.5, 2:16.1, 2:16.5 (the last 2 ones are with a passenger - and obviously, the weight of another grown man is visible in the laptimes). According to CircuitTools (one of the tool I use for analyzing the laps), the ideal best lap is 2:15.0, so there is potential to go to 2:14.x with the stock car.

First lap:
0:30 - I miss the gear shift, and I lose about 0.14 sec (according to CircuitTools)
1:03 - I always shortshift in that corner... if I am to go to 7500 RPM and then shift, I would shift in the middle of the bend which I am afraid would unsettle the car. So I prefer this approach - but I can push the shifting a bit further...
1:46 - the car is a bit unsettled and a slight oversteer

Second lap:
3:46 - I have to overtake the GT3 and I lose about 0.15 sec
4:22 - I turned in too early and in order not to be incorrectly aligned for the next corner I have to ease of the gas... I lose about 0.15 sec again

Third lap:
6:13 - one of the best lines and speeds into that corner. I can still push a bit harder but that's for the next trip.
6:58 - the car always understeers in that corner... I prefer to let it run wide... The Golf is very balanced or even oversteers in the same corner so I don't know what to make of this  :thinking:... It may be the tires, the ESP or who knows...

Last lap:
8:58 - I brake a bit too late
9:32 - I am bit slowed by traffic and I lose about 0.7 sec only in that corner

Comments (especially with advice  :ashamed:) are welcomed!
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: 4ndy on July 07, 2018, 06:17:17 pm
 :sad1: No full screen  Still enjoyed it :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on July 07, 2018, 07:25:22 pm
Thanks!
Click on the name of the video (top part of the video) and you will be redirected to youtube where you can use the full screen button.
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: 4ndy on July 07, 2018, 08:58:38 pm
Thanks!
Click on the name of the video (top part of the video) and you will be redirected to youtube where you can use the full screen button.
Got it :happy2:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on July 25, 2018, 08:01:36 pm
Still in Germany - leaving for France tomorrow - but I need to share the last Nurburgring experience with you (and it can't wait till I return).
So... After the Hungaoring trip, I had a sortoff road trip planned for the Porsche - visiting Germany and France. While in Germany I coudn't ignore the Nurburgring so I stayed for 2 nights there. I only did 7 laps - since the trip goal was not a specific trackday - again with the 100% stock car.

If I had to sum up the experience in a few words, I'd say: "Man, now I understand the power of POWER"  :evilgrin:.
Of course, 275 BHP is nothing compared to what a lot of people have around here, but compared to my beloved mk5 Golf (with 165 bhp) IT'S A LOT. I could finally be competitive on the straights (overtake GTI's, Megane RS's, stay with M3's, etc).
My driving performance is not quite satisfactory for me. I had to re-learn many bends and I struggled with the gearing. The Porsche has a much longer gearing and I always have to use a lower gear than the Golf (where I am in 3rd in the Golf I have to be in 2nd in the Porsche). I am at least 20 laps away from being consistent around the track, but I will leave this for the next visits.
Even if my driving performance is not quite to my liking, the best laptime is way out of my wildest dreams...
I managed a 8:30.1 (BTG) on the 6th lap, even with traffic in high speed areas (compared to 8:56 with the Golf)... I will discuss more about this lap when I upload the video.

For now I will leave you with some pictures taken by my wife or me:

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And with a TechArt modified Cayman S

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The amount of Porsches you see at Nurburgring is amazing... Mostly 911's but some Cayman (mainly GT4's) and Boxsters too.
Next up, some professional photos with the car in action... Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: Shoduchi on July 26, 2018, 12:18:02 pm
Really jealous of your trip! Glad that you're enjoying so much your beautiful machine! :drinking:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on August 01, 2018, 09:33:32 pm
Thanks buddy!  :happy2:

And the promised photos with the car "in action":

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Some stiffer ARB's are definitely needed:
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Next up... video / videos (after I have some time to edit them). Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: Jakey on August 03, 2018, 08:16:12 pm
Very nice. also love the colour of that GT sport  :happy2:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on August 03, 2018, 11:26:56 pm
Cheers!  :drinking:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on August 04, 2018, 01:24:51 pm
And the fastest lap of the trip:



Not that proud of this lap as I usually am, because there were less times when I was on the limit than I would have liked. Anyway, it's a solid starting point.
Also I am struggling a bit with selecting the proper gear for some bends because of the huge difference with the Golf's gearing.
Like I previously said, my best time with the Golf was 8:56 but it was a much better lap than with the Porsche. Nonetheless, I managed 8:30 with the Porsche and it all comes down to the power difference 160 bhp vs 275 bhp.

This was the 6th lap of the trip (out of a total of 7) and I will probably post the 7th one as well because I follow a Seat Cupra 330bhp (advertised), 1200kg and it may be interesting...

Like always, any comments/advice are welcomed.
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on August 14, 2018, 10:02:05 pm
Before continuing with the European road trip, I will post the pictures I just got from the first track day with the car (from the Hungarian Formula 1 track - Hungaroring)  :evilgrin::

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Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on August 19, 2018, 08:39:08 am
Returning to the Nurburgring trip, after my best lap (the 6th lap in the Porsche), I still had one more lap to go. I decided to take my wife along and to have a closing, not very aggressive lap:



The BTG time is irrelevant because I was slowed down a lot by traffic (Fox Hole - Fuchsröhre for example has cost a lot of seconds), but what is interesting is the "duel" I have with a rental Seat Cupra - I have to slow down for some traffic on Kesselchen, the Cupra overtakes me and I follow it till the end.
The Cupra has 330bhp, 1200kg (full specs here (https://www.n-rent.com/en/car/seat-leon-cupra)) and I am quite surprised of the fact that sometimes, I have to short shift not to get to close... Even if I have 275 horses, they seem to be very healthy  :signLOL:

Next up, THE FIRST MOD  :jumping:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on August 25, 2018, 05:08:25 pm
So, first mod... I bet this is not quite what people expected...
I got to have the ISOFIX kit installed. The kit comes with the ISOFIX mounts and with a way to deactivate the passengers airbag.
Images below:

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Unfortunately, one of the mechanics the Stuttgart Porsche Dealer (where I had the car serviced and the ISOFIX installed) scratched my Aluminum interior trim (the part that opens the cup holders) so now I have to change that part too... I am a bit upset of the way the Dealer handled the situation but the trim should all be their expense.
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on August 29, 2018, 08:11:53 pm
And one more thing about that Nurburgring trip, but I am afraid it's not a good news...
On the return trip, I came through Italy (btw, went on that highway bridge that collapsed 2 weeks after in Genoa, killing 35 people) and 15 km from the Slovenian border, I managed to crash the car  :sad1:.
The most frustrating thing is that I was not speeding or anything, just a traffic jam where all the cars stopped and I did not anticipate that... I thought they were just slowing down. Nobody was hurt, but I was (still am) very frustrated about my mistake.
Fortunately, nobody hit me from behind, even if there were other cars that hit each other just behind me.
The car's front bumper was damaged and the structure behind it... This was taken after the crash:

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This was the car a few days after the accident after I when to my VW dealer, they heated the bumper and it popped back out, straightened the number plate, and now the damage is barely visible:

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The car is getting a new bumper and other minor repairs as we speak.

And for this not to be a sad post, something positive: I also bough winter tires and rims.
I went for 19 inch BBS CH-R in Silver - I would have liked the Anthracite but CH-R have a silver lip that is covered by some tape in the photos in order not to get scratched and I don't like how the black or anthracite wheels look with that silver polished lip.
If I decide to track the car more heavily, these might be the track day rims as well.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1875/44301047212_e102360b16_o.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1858/29413194707_2b2a5c9f2a_o.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1879/44301047282_0984e47730_o.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1849/44349306101_7ccaa7ae06_o.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1867/29413194577_58e7ba96d1_o.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1879/30482306358_ca4b9d5dc4_o.jpg)

All in all I really like how they look and the offset is much more appropriate - it fills the wheel arches better than the OEM wheels, I might buy some spacers for these.
Thanks for watching!  :drinking:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on September 23, 2018, 09:22:20 pm
Got the car back from the repair shop on Friday (with the new bumper) and could't help myself: bought and installed the GTS Taillights and the GTS Lower Spoiler.
The installation was not quite easy but I can't say it was difficult... I chose to take the whole bumper of and that made things much easier. It was a 3 hour job for me but I think a mechanic can do it in an hour, maybe an hour and a half.

So, the 2 taillights side by side:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1968/43059134370_de95b4cfe1_b.jpg)

And the left side with the new lights and the right side with the old one:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1971/44820713242_07e358ac66_b.jpg)

This was the state of the car at 2 AM last night:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1955/44820712882_f5763b7e60_b.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1978/44820712372_5ba67a5f47_b.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1928/44820712272_d6d194b411_b.jpg)

The stock lower spoiler:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1964/44820712562_2873563570_b.jpg)

The GTS lower spoiler:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1902/30998153258_e69c95db2d_b.jpg)

And the end result:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1955/44820712122_9f342d61de_b.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1947/30998152958_0839d852d2_b.jpg)

Really glad I can once more enjoy the car!
 :driver:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on September 24, 2018, 09:49:16 pm
Yesterday was a really productive day and it didn't end until I did one more thing to the car: installed some "home" grills to prevent various debris from hitting the radiators.
I bought a large grill painted black and made of Aluminum:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1912/44894941921_7e471f1f61_b.jpg)

I cut the grills to size:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1919/29958074757_d08260472b_b.jpg)

And then installed them:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1913/43083085320_945b354868_b.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1911/43083085950_7d74f91ed0_b.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1978/44174760634_d266b3c19b_b.jpg)

Once more, really happy with the end result - you can barely see any difference!
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: eddie pk on September 25, 2018, 10:36:11 am
great thread -  keep up the good work  :happy2:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on September 25, 2018, 09:29:03 pm
Thanks!  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rdfcpete on October 10, 2018, 10:09:01 pm
@rex (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2615)

Sorry Rex, in my previous post - yes of course as I'm sure you realised, I meant the 981  :ashamed:  I'm realising the subtle differences that the GTS has compared with the 'S' model, although I couldn't really spot them knowingly until your thread now, particularly the tail lights :happy2:

I love driving the GTS from RSR, hopefully they keep it another year or two as they seem to be getting rid of their not-so-new and more expensive to run cars!

The fog grille mods look superb, I love something home-made that ends up OEM looking  :evilgrin:

The 981 Cayman S is still very expensive in the UK (£35k + still) which shows it's appeal and resale value is still substantial. Be great when the values settle a little because they're a great weekend and track-car as you're demonstrating with this build  :drinking:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: Shoduchi on October 10, 2018, 10:15:57 pm
Great work @rex (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2615)!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: wipperman on October 18, 2018, 05:58:24 pm
Hi Rex,

Finally had some time to discover the well hidden topic  :doh: and the car in action, I quite enjoyed the second video, even if you say it was slower, I find it very fluid despite the traffic and ultimately for me this is most important on the Nring beside safety  :smiley:.  I’m a little curious about the steering  feel on a track like Nordschleife (I’ve never driven a Cayman on the track) , you seem to do a lot of ‘’in bend ‘’ corrections ?, especially on the first video, maybe being used to your usual track car and adapting gradually?  Nevertheless, very good, real (=changing gears ),  driving as usual  :happy2: and beautiful, special, car especially irl, quite jealous as I sad  :smiley:

Sorry about your misfortune in Italy, it could’ve been much worse as you said, besides you didn’t have a central radiator behind the bumper to start leaking, immobilize your car and ruin your trip  :wink:.  You shouldn’t be too harsh on yourself, in Italy they don’t have the reflex to manually activate the emergency lights in hard braking as in Germany or most of the other countries, the collisions are the rule over there.  I can see by the way you quickly recovered and the car looks better than ever, love the GTS additions, very impressed by your mechanic and custom work also  :congrats:

Finally, it was really a pleasure to meet again and share our common passion at the Ring, see you next time soon!  :driver:

Best regards,
wipperman

P.S. If I were to guess, that Seat doing such a clean run is driven by a local at the rental company, not by a customer, fiy, one more reason to be pleased with your run
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: pudding on October 19, 2018, 04:50:28 pm
Best colour for a Porsche  :happy2:    I was never a big fan of the original Cayman but yours looks great.

Your English is superb.  Are you an English person living in Romania, or are you Romanian with excellent English?  :smiley:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on October 23, 2018, 07:37:00 pm
@rex (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2615)

Sorry Rex, in my previous post - yes of course as I'm sure you realised, I meant the 981  :ashamed:  I'm realising the subtle differences that the GTS has compared with the 'S' model, although I couldn't really spot them knowingly until your thread now, particularly the tail lights :happy2:

I love driving the GTS from RSR, hopefully they keep it another year or two as they seem to be getting rid of their not-so-new and more expensive to run cars!

The fog grille mods look superb, I love something home-made that ends up OEM looking  :evilgrin:

The 981 Cayman S is still very expensive in the UK (£35k + still) which shows it's appeal and resale value is still substantial. Be great when the values settle a little because they're a great weekend and track-car as you're demonstrating with this build  :drinking:

Maybe buy the GTS from RSR  :happy2:
Yes, the 981's seem to keep their value quite well... I think it has to do with being the last naturally aspirated Porsche (non GT).
I didn't buy mine cheap (much more than £35k) but I think it was worth it.

Unfortunately I don't have the finances to regularly track the Cayman. It's not about the cost of the mods to make it truly track ready but the costs of repair if I crash the car...

Great work @rex (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2615)!  :happy2:

Thanks!  :notworthy:

Hi Rex,

Finally had some time to discover the well hidden topic  :doh: and the car in action, I quite enjoyed the second video, even if you say it was slower, I find it very fluid despite the traffic and ultimately for me this is most important on the Nring beside safety  :smiley:.  I’m a little curious about the steering  feel on a track like Nordschleife (I’ve never driven a Cayman on the track) , you seem to do a lot of ‘’in bend ‘’ corrections ?, especially on the first video, maybe being used to your usual track car and adapting gradually?  Nevertheless, very good, real (=changing gears ),  driving as usual  :happy2: and beautiful, special, car especially irl, quite jealous as I sad  :smiley:

Sorry about your misfortune in Italy, it could’ve been much worse as you said, besides you didn’t have a central radiator behind the bumper to start leaking, immobilize your car and ruin your trip  :wink:.  You shouldn’t be too harsh on yourself, in Italy they don’t have the reflex to manually activate the emergency lights in hard braking as in Germany or most of the other countries, the collisions are the rule over there.  I can see by the way you quickly recovered and the car looks better than ever, love the GTS additions, very impressed by your mechanic and custom work also  :congrats:

Finally, it was really a pleasure to meet again and share our common passion at the Ring, see you next time soon!  :driver:

Best regards,
wipperman

P.S. If I were to guess, that Seat doing such a clean run is driven by a local at the rental company, not by a customer, fiy, one more reason to be pleased with your run

Ha ha nothing escapes you my friend!
Thank you for your comment!
Regarding the steering corrections, I just don't feel the car as well as I feel the Golf. So i do a lot of corrections in order to find the limit. I'm not sure if it's me, if I will get used with the car or if it's the electrical steering that will never improve the feeling / feedback.

It was a real pleasure meeting with you again and hopefully we can do it again next year!

Best colour for a Porsche  :happy2:    I was never a big fan of the original Cayman but yours looks great.

Your English is superb.  Are you an English person living in Romania, or are you Romanian with excellent English?  :smiley:

Yes, it looks good in black, but black is such a "high maintenance" color... I washed both the Golf and the Porsche last weekend and the swirl marks are much more visible on the black paint as opposed to the red paint.
I would have liked the karmine red color better for the Porsche but since I didn't buy it new, I didn't have a choice. But I guess I like the fact that it's a "Black Edition" and it's not very common.

About my English skills, thank you! I am Romanian, living in Romania  :smiley:. Actually never been to the UK before this year but I had the chance to learn English from a young age (there were some periods at school we had more English courses/lessons than Romanian ones, so theoretical I should be better at English than at Romanian  :drinking: ).
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on November 24, 2018, 01:59:46 pm
Winter is here, so WINTER MODE ON  :smiley:.

First up, tires:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4806/44994443204_1a5924142d_o.jpg)

Really big difference in offset between the 2 wheels...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4820/45668530862_79fb1ca852_o.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4828/45668530682_63b2ae51fe_o.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4847/44805306895_5ca9774c3d_o.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4828/45668530502_2fc98b8643_o.jpg)

And then the interior floor mats, cloth for summer and rubber for winter:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4875/45668530292_b7cbe901db_o.jpg)

Next up:
- spacers for the summer wheels
- change the front blinker to a LED one
- brakes

Thanks for watching!  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: teo_parvu on December 05, 2018, 06:01:34 pm
It looks so good on these wheels, love it.  :laugh:
For sure they would be great in anthracite but unfortunately not with the silver lip.
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: Shoduchi on December 06, 2018, 01:02:24 am
The car looks good with those wheels too. :happy2:

I like them silver! Very good looking rubber mats. :surprised:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on December 27, 2018, 03:41:55 pm
It looks so good on these wheels, love it.  :laugh:
For sure they would be great in anthracite but unfortunately not with the silver lip.

Exactly my view as well.

The car looks good with those wheels too. :happy2:

I like them silver! Very good looking rubber mats. :surprised:

Thanks!

 :drinking:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on March 02, 2019, 04:24:01 pm
A short update with small things that happened this weekend.

Finally got to use the Nurburgring sticker:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7883/47205821172_a04eb8cf56_o.jpg)

As some of you might know, once a car has been on the Nurburgring Nordscheilfe it is worthy of the sticker  :happy2:.
The stickers that could be bought are all for the outside of the car, and can easily be damaged during time. So I have made my own stickers and sicked them from inside.

And speaking of the last years Nurburging trip, there is something else I've been wanting to do...
During the ISOFIX install (at the Porsche Dealer in Stuttgart), the mechanic managed to scratch the interior trim:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7865/32315697707_f69d29da98_o.jpg)

I've immediately notified them of the issues and it only took them 7 months to send me the new piece... At first they said it was not their mistake, then they stopped answering my emails but I didn't give up - it wasn't an expensive piece but it was about the message.

Since the nearest Porsche dealer is about 4 hours away I asked my AUDI/VW dealer (in town) to swap the trims but they said they don't know how  :smiley:
So I did it myself...
If some of you might want to have the 991/981/982 (718) cup holder trim replaced, there is a trick that will help you take it out really easy.
As you can see from the removed part, there are 2 holes that prevent the trim from being removed (red circles).

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7897/32315697587_5105f0cf68_o.jpg)

But, if you stick about 4-5 old credit cards / shopping cards / etc, the piece that is holding the trim will be pushed up and the trim will easily come out (you just have to pull it with not much force). Slowly but shortly I am doing more and more things on my own  :smiley:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7807/33381902508_1e1db875cb_o.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7885/32315697517_ed15931744_o.jpg)

And one more thing... My wife is expecting a baby so I will put to good use the ISOFIX I have on the passenger seat:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7908/46343399225_c799e956a6_o.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7829/47206092962_2e283f9a3c_o.jpg)

Next up - I am thinking of some spacers, some brake cooling and bigger brakes. Stay tuned!
 
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on March 30, 2019, 11:04:35 pm
Next up - I am thinking of some spacers, some brake cooling and bigger brakes. Stay tuned!

Well, not quite...
Until then, the cheapest mod available for the 981 Cayman: changed the bumper side blinkers to 718/991 LED ones (the original ones are not LED):

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7845/47502381681_a8a31d2160_o.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7847/47502381641_46b7cfeb57_o.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7849/47502381591_bb6f58f6ee_o.jpg)

Thanks for watching!
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on April 23, 2019, 08:17:47 pm
These just arrived:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33802748248_cb36903bbb_o.jpg)

Among other smaller bits they contain:

982/718 S or GTS calipers Front & Rear (even if the rear ones are just like mine, but painted Red, I preferred to buy new ones instead of painting the old ones)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47680264111_b98a57fb44_o.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33802748068_5a0f478bd8_o.jpg)

330 x 34 discs

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33802768258_9d1a274aab_o.jpg)

7 mm hubcentric spacers with the necessary bolts (not pictured)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33802768308_09a5b3fb7c_o.jpg)

Front & rear brake vents - 981 CS/BS (the fronts are different to the Base model and the ones in the back don't exist on the Base model)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47680271511_576faac805_o.jpg)

I also ordered HEL brake lines that have not yet arrived.
I don't intend to do serious tracking with the Porsche (I have the Golf for that) but if I take the Cayman to the track I expect these brakes to last more than the Stock ones.

Next up, installing all the parts.
Thanks for watching!  :drinking:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: Shoduchi on April 25, 2019, 02:37:42 am
Oh, great goodies there! Always a pleasure following your work!  :drinking:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on April 25, 2019, 09:10:29 am
Thanks buddy!  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on May 03, 2019, 08:22:00 pm
These just arrived:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47766293331_e00a5ab786_o.jpg)

So I will be mounting the new brakes in the following week (hopefully).
That's not in time for the next trackday, but that's fine since I was planning to stretch the VW's legs anyway.
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on May 17, 2019, 08:25:26 pm
So... As promised, the brake job is done and here is what exactly happened, with pictures of before and after.

What did I exactly do?
Well, I changed the following:

- 981 Cayman Front Calipers with 718 (982) Cayman S/GTS Calipers. These are the same ones as used on the 911 991.2 Carrera, just painted red.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47818252342_56a692a4ce_o.png)

- 981 Cayman Rear Calipers with 981 S/GTS or 718 S/GTS Calipers. Basically the same as the original ones but I wanted to have all the calipers in one color...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47818252532_22a0e25315_o.png)

- 981 Cayman Rotors 315 x 28 with 330 x 34 Rotors from the 718 (982) Cayman S/GTS or 911 991.2 Carrera

- Changed the front brake cooling spoilers from to 981 Cayman S/GTS ones. The new ones direct the airflow to the brake rotors.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47818252212_104ff2ae74_o.jpg)

- Added rear brake cooling spoilers from the 981 Cayman S/GTS or 718 Base/S/GTS. Especially because I have the PTV (Porsche Torque Vectoring) which is using the rear brakes as well, I thought these are needed.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47818252092_514ecd00da_o.jpg)

- HEL brake lines front & rear

- 7mm hubcentric spacers front & rear (photos' after)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33993257518_369626672d_o.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40903980003_f542a71085_o.jpg)

So, how does that feel?
Easy answer, worse than before - because I have to bed in the brakes  :P . After that I expect these brakes to better handle the occasional track days I have with the car. If I end up tracking the car regularly, this setup is a great starting point - I only have to change the rotors, the pads and the brake fluid and I am ready for some serious trackdays.
But, one thing that I immediately noticed, the car looks much better with the larger brakes and with the red calipers   :pomppomp:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33993257708_5ac6743a79_o.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47818267802_093f9ac8f0_o.jpg)

Next up, the Porsche Experience Day I took part in yesterday. Stay tuned  :drinking:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: Shoduchi on May 19, 2019, 12:49:08 am
Brakes look awesome! :drinking:

Your wheels are huge. :laugh:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on May 22, 2019, 10:07:34 am
Thanks buddy!
Yes, 20 inches and favorite wheels for the 981 Cayman... When ordering the car I thought they will be a nightmare especially on the roads I use, but the Porsche with its 20 inch wheels is more comfortable than the golf with its 16 inch winter wheels. So, no complaints over there... I just have to be really careful for large potholes.

And on a different subject, I was telling you about the Porsche Experience event I took part in last week. Even if it is not directly connected to the Cayman, I think it plays a part in what will happen with the Cayman later on, so here it goes...
Porsche Romania invited me to take part in this event where, for approx 3 hours you get to experience all the models in the current Porsche range: 718, 911, Macan, Cayenne, Panamera. The had 2 of each (with different engines and specs) and, along with another person, I would drive each of the 5 models but only with one engine (and passenger in the other one). As the Macan, Cayenne and Panamera are of absolutely no interest to me, I will only detail my experiences with the 718 and 911 (992).

The 911 first... This was to be one of my mistakes, I got to drive the 992 S (RWD) first. After this, all the other models in the range were not even close as exciting. Anyway, I have to say the 911 impressed me a lot. So much so, that I have decided that my next Porsche will be a 911. I was having thoughts about the 718 GT4 (to be released later this year) but not any more. The way the car pulls and the way it handles really convinced me to look no further than the 911. The only thing I didn't like was the sound the turbocharged 3.0 makes in the 911 (even with sport exhaust). So, if all goes well, I plan to keep the Cayman because of its great sounding engine and because of the manual gearbox and get an automatic 911 as well in 3-4 years time.

A few photos of the 911:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47854662472_510c843d29_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47854662812_de4138bee2_b.jpg)

And I also wanted to share with you my drives in the 718 - they had a 718 Boxster GTS and a 718 Cayman T. This is quite funny because, before buying the current Cayman, I was in discussions with the Porsche Dealer for 2 configurations really close to what they offered now at the event. Back then, I settled for the GTS but because the Dealer was not at all professional when discussion about the financing - making one deal and then not respecting it - I went with the current car.
After driving the Cayman T and being a passenger in the GTS, I am really glad I did not buy the newer 718 generation! The 718's have a nicer steering wheel, navigation system and seats while my car has the 6 Cylinder Engine and a Manual Gearbox. And what a difference those make! I use the car 95% in the city with a 6 mile commute - so I appreciate the NA engine and gearbox much more.
BTW, the Porsche Dealer said that you CAN'T order ANY Porsche models with a manual gearbox in Romania because of the new emission testings which are not yet complete.

A few photos of the Cayman T:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47906728641_ca1202b629_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47854662522_10dfa3032a_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47854662562_f262ede4c9_b.jpg)

So, what's next for my Cayman?
Well, I plan to drive and enjoy it: in the city, on weekend runs or at the track.
Regarding future mods, I have a few in mind, but none are a must right now:
- the steering wheel (718 Sport with controls)
- I hate the DLR (Daylight Running Lights), especially how rounded they are. So I am thinking of a GTS front bumper - I'll give this some more thought.
- the memory module - to remember the state of the buttons in the center console after the car is switched of (like Start/Stop which I always have to deactivate after starting the engine).
- maybe the X73 front & rear sway bars (these are the ones that come with the cars that have a Sport Chassis)- the car is so good as a daily driver that I don't really want to ruin it - I'll give this some more thought also.
- sport bucket seats after I will no longer need the ISOFIX - so a few years from now.

 :drinking:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on July 15, 2019, 08:15:39 pm
Putting the ISOFIX mod to good use:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48292358346_e46bd01820_b.jpg)

 :drinking:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on August 14, 2019, 07:27:56 pm
And the story goes on... but not exactly as I anticipated to  :P

Since the baby, I have to be closer to home and I can't leave for weeks. Nonetheless, I still wanted to do a track day at Hungaroring or a visit Nurburgring. Since the latter requires at least 4 days, I chose to go to Hungaroring, for now...
I wanted to take the Golf but with the missfire issues I can't really enjoy the car and it's not ready for trackdays. So, until I fix or swap the engine I guess I will use the Cayman for trackdays as well.
The car is better prepared to handle the track action than before but as I found out, there are huge limitations...

So, on the 11th of August (exactly 1 week after the F1 Grand Prix at Hungaroring), Hungaroring opened its doors for a track day event. Since I wasn't in the Golf (where I would have as many sessions/laps as possible) I decided to have 4 sessions with the Cayman - not to kill it.
The weather was very very warm and the tires are now, by far, the worst think about this car for the track. I couldn't use the new brakes to their full potential because the tire grip was very poor. I had real problems maintaining the optional tire pressure throughout the day. I learned that 2.3 bar (33PSI) is the best tire pressure for this tire (P Zero) but I only had about 4 laps (in total) with the tires at this pressure.
Even at the optimal pressure, these were the maximum G's I managed:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48537911081_8582fe59ba_b.jpg)

It is clear that if I intend to push the car even more, I need better road tires (like Pilot Sport 4S) or semislicks - Cup 2 or similar.
Before I edit the video with the best laps, here are some photos:

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Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on August 18, 2019, 08:02:57 pm
Like promised, here is the video with the best two laps of the previous trip:



Compared to my previous trip to Hungaroring, I was 0.8 sec slower. Not the end of the world, but at least I got to see what "when wrong" by looking at the data (I'm using VBox sport + exterior antenna & Circuit Tools and Performance Tools).

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I was a bit slower in turns 6 (because of the lack of guts) and 13 because I couldn't find an approach that would not involve loads of understeer (yet).
In the second lap form the video above, I lost all 0.8 seconds in turn 14 when I encountered traffic. Why the hell someone would be either extremely slow (this was the category with the fast cars) or on their cool down lap and still use the racing line is beyond my comprehension...
Anyway, once more, this is a great little car and I had great fun in it.  :driver:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on September 28, 2019, 09:00:50 am
Good morning everyone!

I keep telling myself (and you) that the Cayman is not my trackday car but the reality is I am constantly giving you trackdays footage. Well this occasion is not different...
Since I wanted at least one more trackday this year and since Nurburgring is out of the question (for this year), I decided to visit the Transilvania Motor Ring circuit which is 70 miles away from home.
I wanted to go with the Golf but, after the non resolved missfire issues, I "settled" for the Cayman...

The day started a bit worrying for me since it looked like another cold and wet day but it turned out to be the opposite. I had lots of fun and no issues with the car.
I still like the Golf more in the bends (due to the semislick and suspension setup) and on braking but I love the Cayman for the traction when exiting corners and for the sound. To have the same fun all around I would have to change the tires, the brake pads, the ARB's and probably the springs and shocks. But, once more, that is not something I want to do right now. So, even with these downfalls I will enjoy the car as it is:

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A drive-by video (Sport OEM exhaust):



And the best lap of the day:



Any advice is welcomed!

Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on January 26, 2020, 11:19:31 am
Over the past few months I've been thinking of what I want to do - car wise.
And, I have absolutely no conclusions  :smiley:. But, here is how things stand right now - I will talk about the Golf in it's topic, I will concentrate on the Cayman and Porsche in general.
I absolutely love the Cayman. It is such a nice car... It is an awesome daily and a decent track car. I especially love the sound and the manual gearbox. I've contemplating about trading it in for a 718 GTS 4.0 or a 718 GT4 and, even if the 718's are much more capable on track, for daily drive I would stick to my Cayman (the noise is affected in the 718 because of the particle filter installed to the exhaust). So, I intend to keep the Cayman for a very long while.
The general idea is that I would have a few weekend cars, the Cayman for daily and a GT3/GT3RS (997.2, 991.1, 991.2 or 992) for track days. Right now the budget doesn't allow for a GT3/GT3RS but even if it did, the driver is nowhere near the skill required to use a car like that. I've reviewed some of my "brown moments" with the Golf and I remember how close to the limit I was going. I am far from that in the Cayman - probably because it is much more expensive if I crash it.

So, I NEED TO IMPROVE MY DRIVING SKILLS  :thinking:. I order to do that, I started watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZlOkt1oU2k&list=PLAZL0MKQigFNSY0BTdt_GsDwxdHoeJ302[/youtube]"]this (http://"[youtube) tutorial.
And I notices how far behind I am, regarding my skills  :sad1:. I guess the more you learn, the less you know...

I will try to use what Scott is teaching and I also bought two Porsche TrackDay Experiences.

1. g-Force Testtrack Boxberg (http://"https://experience.porsche.com/en/track/events-and-services/special-training-onroad/g-force/g-force-boxberg-2020")
Basically I will be driving a 992 CarreraS and learn to control oversteer. This is especially handy since, as I said, in a few years I would like to buy a 911.

2. Master Nürburgring GP & Nordschleife (http://"https://experience.porsche.com/en/track/events-and-services/training-levels-onroad/master/Nuerburgring-Master-2020")
After sending my driving diplomas and some videos from trackdays, I got admitted to this training and I start from their Master Level Experience  :jumping:
I will be driving my Cayman and I hope to better learn racing lines and how to control the car. Since this trip is quite close to my service interval date, I will also have the car serviced at Nurburging at Manthey-Racing (http://"https://www.manthey-racing.de/en/home"). Yes, they are the Porsche specialists that built this:



So, since I am there, I am investigating the possibility of changing the sway bars with the Sport Chassis ones and also have a more track-focused wheel alignment.
I'll see how it goes, fingers crossed!  :innocent:

In the meanwhile I will continue to use the car as my daily and as a trackday cars in between.
Thanks for watching!
   
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on May 24, 2020, 09:39:07 pm
Quite some time since I last wrote anything over here... And a lot of things happened since then.
I hope everyone is well!

Next week should have been the Porsche oversteer training... All flights to Germany are cancelled and the training is also cancelled. I think this is the first year in 11 years I haven't had a trackday since June... But I guess this is understandable. In Romania, the authorities took Corona very serious - some might say too serious (not me though) and I couldn't even drive the Porsche for 2 months - partially because of the ban to travel unless for a serious motive and partially because the Romanian version of MOT (carried out each 2 years) expired and that was not a good enough reason to go out and get it done.

In the meanwhile, the car had a proper wash to get rid of the winter salt and grime. I do this every year when switching to summer tires and I hope to keep the car rust free for a long long while. Those big calipers look very sexy  :smiley:

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I like the BBS CH-R wheels, but I prefer the OEM Carrera Classic ones better.

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The August Nurburging Porsche training is still on and I am very excited about it. I hope the world will be safe enough for them not to cancel.
All the best!
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on August 14, 2020, 08:18:46 pm
Hello everyone!
Yesterday I returned from this years Nurburgring adventure and, after some rest - as I drove, in total 4221 km (2622 miles) and approx 51 hours during the past 6 days, out of which about 850km (528 miles) - I would like to share with you what exactly happened...
There are many thoughts, photos and videos I want to share so it is going to take more then one post. This post is about general impressions. So, without further ado, here we go  :jumpmove:

This has been my first Porsche Track Experience event and I have so say, Porsche has not let me down. It was a wonderfully organized event and, even if expensive, well worth the money.
The event took place over 2 days, the first day the instructors would show you the racing lines and the second day you could choose either to do the same as in the previous day, or have the instructor drive behind you or free driving.
The auxiliaries - food, beverage, gifts were top notch. The instructors as well.
Also worth mentioning is the fact that we had the Nordschleife and the GP Track combined - this doesn't happen very often and I was nice to learn the GP track as well.
All the cars attending were Porsche's (it is not mandatory though) and 80% of them were GT3RS and GT3. The were either some rentals (like 992 TurboS, 992 Carrera S, 718 Cayman) or some older 911's or some non GT 991's or a handful of 981 GT4's. Here are some of the cars in the lineup:



The event consisted of about 13 groups - I think about 3 groups were English speaking and the rest German.
I was a part of group 10, with 3 other cars - all 991.2 GT3RS. We had 2 instructors (Chezito Mendez and Renate Sanders) both driving 992 Turbo S's. And there was I, with the 275hp stock 981 Cayman  :stupid:. I would say we were evenly matched  :innocent:. One of my colleagues was at Nurburgring for the first time so, at least I wasn't the slowest :).

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During the first hours one "defect" the car has, has become a big issue but also a blessing in disguise. The seats (OEM base ones) over little to no side support, so I nicknamed them the "bench" as you slide from one side to the other. Because of this, by knees were constantly banging the audio speakers on the left and the central tunnel on the right. I had some knee caps with me, just in case, and after the injury started to get serious I took a break from the training and went to the hotel to get my knee caps.

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One of the instructors went ahead with the remaining of the cars and the other was (Renate) waited for me. So, for the next 2 days I had a personal instructor  :jumping:. A gentlemen also joined us for a few laps in his, very beautiful, 991.2 GT3 Touring but had some issues (personally) and did not join the second day. He was also having problems with the manual gearbox as we was not always in the correct gear (and the NA engines don't work very well outside of a specific power band). As such he was maybe 30 sec to 1 minute slower then me.

Anyway, the first day of training ended without something notable to say... No great laps or laptimes as the instructor was very fast in some parts of the track but also slowing down to much for me on others.

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After the training I attended the Touristenfahrten driving session on the Nordschleife & GP Track and I have to say it was a mess... So many cars all over the place that I am seriously considering ever doing another Touristenfahrten... As it is very difficult for me to get to the track, I think I will do some trackdays/trainings only.
Next up, the second day and some photos (after I get some from the officials) and videos (after I edit them and overlay the GPS data). Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on August 16, 2020, 07:20:08 pm
And the story goes on...
The program of the event was, as follows:
- some theory about grip, lines, rules - very minimal and nothing new.
- 1st day you have to follow the instructor
- 2nd day you can either follow the instructor, have the instructor follow you, or have free laps, without any instructor.

As I had one instructor only for myself I thought it would be stupid of me not to benefit from her experience and her advises.
The day didn't start very well as the rear brake pad warning message went on after only a few miles. So I lost about one hour and a half changing the pads at the Porsche Dealership in Nurburgring (Manthey Racing) - I was scheduled for a service and pads change the following day but they were very nice and changed the brakes on the spot to allow me to take part in the Porsche Experience Program without loosing to much time. Also my instructor had lunch earlier and I skipped lunch to maximize the track time.
The track was also closed for about 30 minutes due to a very nice 997.2 GT3RS which had an encounter with the side rail in one of the sessions - the driver seemed fine.

About the day, I have to say I enjoyed it a lot! I started pushing my limits more and more, the instructor was very helpful and I learned a lot from her.
As you will see in the video below, we both had a walkie talkie / radio and we could communicate both ways. As I wanted to concentrate on the laps my instructor would do the talking during the lap and I would use the radio after the completion of the lap. The audio was quite good because the radio was connected to my AUX input in the car.

Anyway, here is a lap with more things to see...



And a few works about that particular lap:
- this trip was the first time I've been on the GP track and I can say I'm not yet comfortable with it. As you see, I could use more of the track and more of the curbs.
- when I usually see cars in my back mirror, I know they are faster then I am and I immediately signal right and move to the right side. In this case, that was not quite OK since the GT3RS's were slower than I was on the last part of the track. You will see the instructor also comment on this.
- during my previous day and also the laps before the above one, the instructor told me I am very fast in the last part. She told me that I "drive like a professional racing driver the last part of the circuit" (after Hohe Acht) and she previously joked about me passing other German plate 991's - GTS, GT3, GT3RS, etc by saying "the further you are from Nurburgring the better you are". In the video above you will hear her say that again...
I am not yet sure if she was serious or not (I think she might have been a bit serious ), but, of course, her statements filled me with joy and pride. And they also made me concentrate more and take more chances in some areas (areas where I feel I still can do better).

Also, as a general feedback, I understood more about the cars' weight transfer when doing different things and I think I should generally have an earlier turn-in to keep the car balanced.
Next up, the best lap and/or photos.

P.S. Oh... I forgot something... This training was the "Master" level one - the third level in Porsche trainings. This implies people have 2 other trainings previously (Precision & Performance). But I think they should also judge people on skill / laptimes / etc. Because I don't think it's normal to have so much disparity in performance... I could keep up with the GT3RS's but I was way faster than other cars (GT3's, GTS's, etc) and that should not be the case.
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on August 18, 2020, 08:51:56 am
And here is the video with the best lap:



As in the usual way, a few word about it:
- since I go from a stand still at the Bilstein Bridge and since I also do the GP track, the BTG time is estimated as follows: I take the previous journey's Bridge to T13 (L4 Apex) time and I add the time from T13 (L4 Apex) to Gantry. This is how I got to 8:21.
- there are a lot of corners where I am faster than I've ever been: Flugplatz, Fuchsröhre, Kesselchen or Stefan-Bellof-S - to name only the biggest improvements.
- but there still are a lot of areas where I can improve the lines or the apex speed by 1-2 kph/mph. So there still is a reason to go to Nurburgring  :grin:.
- I am also not exactly where I hoped I would be regarding using the maximal grip provided by the tires (the G-meter should be, when braking and then turning in, moving on the circle arc  formed between the 1G braking forces and 1G lateral forces). I did understand more of what I am doing right/wrong during this trip, so I hope to improve upon this during my next track days.

As always, comments and feedback are welcomed!
The instructor was very kind with the "Perfect" at the end of the video, but I truly want to know what I can do better.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on August 30, 2020, 08:29:29 pm
One more thing to discuss about the Nurburgring trip - the service at Manthey Racing - but, before that, some photos of the car "in action" - just received from the organizers:

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Thanks for watching!
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on September 01, 2020, 03:50:54 pm
And, just like promised, the story goes on...
After the Porsche Track Experience event finished, I was scheduled for a 4year intermediary service at the Porsche Dealership at Nurbugring - which happened to be Manthey Racing. For all Porsche lovers, Manthey Racing is really the place to be... I think there were a handful of cars without a massive spoiler/wing:

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The customers service is great, as you would expect.
Besides the service, I also had the wheel alignment done... I wanted a more track oriented setup. This was the first time someone asked me how much I weigh and if I have a passenger on my trackdays before doing a wheel alignment. I think they are used to corner weigh the car when doing the alignment - too bad my suspension is fixed. Also strange to me was the way they did the alignment. I am used to having the car on a platform and either using strings or some optics you would do the setup. Over here, they took the weeks off and installed a stool like device on each wheel (I guess that also measures the weight). Anyway, here is the current setup:

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I have to say I can't feel much of a difference - even if increasing the camber and the toe was felt more with the previous car. I will talk more about the setup of the car in following posts.

And since the previous license plate holder broke and then melted (I guess due to vibrations and heat), I got new ones. Also a lot of bugs after the trip:

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Next up, the latest trackday report - one week after the Nurburgring trip.  :drinking:
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on September 11, 2020, 07:15:35 pm
3 weeks since the last track day and only now did I have the time for a proper debriefing  :smiley:
Just before my summer vacation I visited the "local" (70 miles from where I live) track - Transilvania Motor Ring. I only did laps for 2 hours but I managed to go through the whole tank of gas in those two hours. I hardly stopped - only for tire pressure and maybe a 5 min break. But I had fun and that's what matters.
The car was very good except for the tires which seemed much more overwhelmed than previously. I had a number of traction and understeer problems and those were visible in the times. My best lap was 1 sec slower than the previous best lap (one year ago).



I got the chance to look at the data stored by the VBOX and it was obvious I was much better on the brakes (I think this is due to the things I learned at Nurburgring) but much worse when it came to traction...

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At the end of the day I noticed the front tires exterior shoulders were worn (I think due to the understeer issues) - and this didn't happen previously.
Since I was pretty close to the wear marker, I decided to change the tires in preparation for the next track day (25 Sep). I searched for alternatives to the Pirelli P Zero's the car came equipped with, and I really wanted the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 ones - but they are not factory approved for the car and, maybe more importantly, they didn't have rim protection. Next in line were the Continental Sport Contact 6 which were also not factory approved. So I ended up with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S. Just intalled them today and, as for the performance I will speak after the track day, but I can tell you they look much better than the Pirelli ones and also have a much more pronounced rim protection.
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on September 29, 2020, 08:20:58 pm
So, back with another track review...
The new Michelin Pilot Sport 4S are awesome for the first, maybe, 10 laps... after that, they lose a lot of grip and, they end up like this:

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These are the left front ones (the left back ones are slightly better but still suffer from the same issue). This is mainly due to the fact it's a clock wise track, I suffer from understeer on most left side corners and I also use the kerbs more.

They lasted for 54 laps (about 35 - 40 hard laps) at Transilvania Motor Ring - this is way below the Pirelli P Zero ones that lasted about 45 hard laps at Hungaroring, 35 hard Nurburgring laps, and 35 hard laps at Transilvania Motor Ring. Plus about 15k miles on the road. So there is no comparison when it comes to wear.

When it comes to times, the 4S is 1-2 seconds faster than the Pirelli. I improved my times with 2 seconds from my previous trip and with 1 second from my previous personal best.

Even if there is not much to see, here is the new personal best:



This was my 10th hard lap and there are a lot of ares to improve, but later on the tires started to lose traction.

A much more interesting video is when I'm chasing a 981 Porsche Boxster GTS... I am quite surprised I can stay with him or even be a bit faster - he also has some AR1 tires, according to my passenger...



Comments or advises are welcomed.

Next up - another chase video with one of my friends - a diesel mk5 Golf faster than my Cayman.
Also next - I am not sure what to do with the tires (I will try to change them using the warranty since this has not even remotely happened during my previous 12 years of trackdays with all sorts of tires). Ideas for replacements?
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on October 02, 2020, 08:56:49 pm
And the last video I want to share of the last trackday is a chase video with one of my oldest and best automotive friends @Acidutzul (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3035) . The VW Golf was quite evenly matched with his car back in the days but, since he upgraded the turbo, the Porsche is now, in its stock form, a similarly fast car... He's got a MK5 2.0 TDI Golf with about the same power to weight as my Porsche but with other mods as well: Bilsteing B16 Coilovers, APRacing brakes, thicker AntiRollBars / Sway Bar, semislicks and, I also think, he is a bit of a better driver than I am. As the cars are evenly matched we get to do these chase videos, that we enjoy a lot.



He is pushing a bit and, maybe due to some brake issues - I personally think the rear brakes are too powerful - the video may be more interesting to watch.
As you can see (after the smoke from the exhaust clears  :grin:), the MK5 platform is quite capable even with a diesel engine.

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: Larky7 on October 05, 2020, 04:15:57 pm
Hi, only just came across this. That Porsche looks so nice! I am definitely going to own a Porsche one day!

I love the fact you said at the beginning of the thread it’s not going to be track car, then it’s now a track car :signLOL: Anyway keep at it, like to see more what you do with it.
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on October 12, 2020, 08:26:20 am
Thanks for the comment!
Yes, it wasn't (and it still isn't) considered a track day car. But because of the issues I have with the intended track day car - engine and, latest, some brake issues - I have no choice but to track the Porsche  :driver:.
The plan is to have either the Cayman or the Golf as track day car for 2021 as I want to buy a dedicated track car in 2022...

P.S. Yes, I also like the way it looks... very elegant and stylish if you ask me...
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on December 07, 2020, 10:17:16 am
No updated on the tires, but there are other updates... Quite big ones...
It's been my plan for some time to enter the Porsche "GT" world in 2022, but as I started to track the Black Edition more, I realize I need a more track oriented car in 2021 as well. So, I started thinking what to do, and the current plan is to sell (trade-in) the Black Edition and buy a 718 GT4. The current Cayman is an awesome car, I like it a lot (really can fault it), but it just doesn't make sense to have 2 Caymans.

I started to revert all the mods and the side indicators, GTS rear diffusor, GTS lights are allready out.

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Next thing to come down, the Porsche 718 GTS brakes...

Regarding the 718 GT4, I received similar offers for 3 cars, which are on the short list (Racing Yellow, Gentian blue and Miami Blue). The Racing Yellow one is "in pole position", even if I am not crazy about the color, because, not being brand new (400 miles), it is significantly cheaper than the other two (which are brand new). I'll keep you posted!

Cheers!
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: colesey on December 10, 2020, 01:36:53 pm
@Rex - have you considered getting a 981 GT4 instead? Is much the same car but @£20k cheaper and sounds better without the GPF. A neighbour had a lovely black one but has very recently changed over to a crayon 718 Spyder.
Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on December 10, 2020, 03:20:15 pm
Yes, I have considered a 981 GT4 - actually it was my first choice.
But I buy Porsche's only from Porsche Dealers (I am afraid that the cheapest Porsche can turn out to be the most expensive Porsche) and the 981 GT4 offer was very limited (one car to be more exact). That is a GT4 that meets my requirements (automatic climate control - climatronic, not white, etc).
And the dealer for the available 981 GT4 is not willing to have a trade-in for my Cayman. I've seen this with some German Dealers that don't import cars (even if my Cayman was brought from Germany and is a German edition one)...

Anyway...
I've made the deal for the 718 GT4 shown below. The contract is being done (as there are some complications for importing a car) between the German Dealer and my Local Dealer so there can still be some hiccups. As such, I can't celebrate quite yet...

Here is the picture of the (hopefully) new car:

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Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: rex on January 25, 2021, 08:34:57 am
In the end, the Racing Yellow transaction did not go trough... I made the deal, asked the Dealer to complete the paperwork for me to pay the invoices in 2021. This was the deal all along but the Dealer suddenly requested to have the invoice issued in 2020 and paid in 2020 as well. That was very unprofessional of them and I decided to buy from someone else... They still have the car for sale as we speak, cheaper than I would have paid for it.

Nonetheless, last week on Tuesday, I sold my car to the Wuppertal Porsche Dealer as a downpayment for a brand new 718 GT4.
This is the last photo of the Black Edition:

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I've had it for 3 years and it was a very very good car. I liked it a lot but, sadly, I can't have 2 Caymans (financially).
It is currently for sale in Germany if anybody is interested: https://finder.porsche.com/de/de_DE/Cayman-Black-Edition-277188

And the new car is, as I said, a 2021 718 GT4 in Miami Blue.
As seen at the dealer:


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As I first saw it, yesterday:

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I will open a new thread for the new car.



Title: Re: Porsche Cayman 981 Black Edition
Post by: Shoduchi on May 25, 2022, 04:06:48 pm
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