MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Cosmetic/Interior Modifications => Topic started by: Duv on August 20, 2014, 11:24:46 pm

Title: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Duv on August 20, 2014, 11:24:46 pm
Has anyone done/tried this yet? I guess it should fit. But more getting the horn / mfsw buttons working?

I've been given a flat bottom mfsw and just seeing if it's possible yet / at all. Thanks.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: danishmkvgti on August 21, 2014, 10:28:43 am
I have already made a tread asking this a while back, no solution/reply yet  :happy2:
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Duv on August 21, 2014, 10:42:24 am
Thank you, I did search but I couldn't see anything. I have a friend who's physically fitted one but no buttons work.
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Post by: jason_rmh on August 21, 2014, 11:26:26 am
I guess it will be down to having the correct steering control module.

Jas
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Quiggers92 on August 25, 2014, 07:42:30 pm
I've fitted one to my jetta but none of the buttons work. Looks the business tho  :happy2:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fquiggers92%2FMobile_Uploads%2Fimage_zps01251eb4.jpg&hash=bc8ce8e4725e2bd84344628421858f22822e495c)
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Duv on August 25, 2014, 07:45:06 pm
Nice mate. What controler are you using? And does the horn work?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Quiggers92 on August 25, 2014, 07:51:20 pm
Just the standard controller mate, what ever that is. Yh the horn does work
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Duv on August 25, 2014, 07:55:33 pm
Hmmm. Cheers mate. Wonder if a mk6 ch controler would work? I just need an airbag. Then I will try.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: danishmkvgti on August 25, 2014, 08:03:26 pm
 :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: omeydz on August 25, 2014, 08:30:51 pm
Looks good!! Wish it was a bit more of a chunkier wheel like the mk6 and mk5 flat bottom wheels though :/ ...
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: DANBOY66 on September 01, 2015, 07:06:58 am
old topic i know  :happy2:

has anyone managed to do this yet ?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: ady-uk on September 12, 2015, 08:02:19 pm
I know a fantastic guy called Alex, from Redditch that does VW upgrades.

He fitted this mk7 steering wheel into my mk5 Golf to test and got all the button working.

I already had the mk6 MSFW fitted and the old controller wouldn't work.
Had to have new controller, modified wiring loom and a few other bits changing to work.

It is doable though.  Have witnessed it fully working in my car!

Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: shaunnorris7 on September 12, 2015, 08:09:44 pm
IMHO I don't think you can beat the mk5 flat bottom one  :driver:
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Eddie-NL on September 12, 2015, 08:16:59 pm
I fitted a mk7 type FB Gti wheel (was from the current new polo gti so had red illumination) worked fine although the cruise buttons didn't work so best to get one without the cruise buttons. You would also need a CH controller
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: samiul11 on September 13, 2015, 03:18:41 pm
IMHO I don' think you can beat the mk5 flat bottom one  :driver:

Agreed!
Title: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: olsen-72 on September 13, 2015, 04:53:25 pm
Hi
Fitted R20 steering wheel into my MK6 (with the same 1K0.. CH steering module as MK5) and all buttons work but they wont illuminate. Yet.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2F20150425_120949.jpg&hash=021a05ecf4539dd482f9cad7923ef1ff2aeaea1e)

To get your buttons illuminate on MK5 you will need to swap the steering module from newer model 2010up. To make it easier I made myself wiring adapter so I can always remove it and put original module back.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2FIMG_5113.jpg&hash=8224834a56f2d5afc9f3a3771869b636393c6612)

I test fitted it in my car and on ady-uk 2005 MK5. All works as it should, buttons, illumination etc.
Also tested 3 or 4 MK7 and Rocco wheels with cruise buttons and non of them works with 1K0 or 5K0 modules. Only the one without cruise buttons works.

Thanks
Alex
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: DANBOY66 on September 14, 2015, 10:02:13 am
thanks for the replys lads

the only other question is the dsg padels i take it they work as well mk7 wheel on a mk5  :wink:
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: patpong_pete on September 14, 2015, 05:22:57 pm
mk7 Wheel
is it me or does it look massive ?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on September 22, 2015, 12:38:57 pm
Hi @olsen-72 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4567) this is Luke from ReddiWraps.  :happy2:

I've just ordered a Mk7 GTI red stitch steering wheel without cruise. Can you retrofit this for me with illumination?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: olsen-72 on September 22, 2015, 12:40:26 pm

Hi @olsen-72 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4567) this is Luke from ReddiWraps.  :happy2:

I've just ordered a Mk7 GTI red stitch steering wheel without cruise. Can you retrofit this for me with illumination?
Inbox me ur mobile mate plz.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: DANBOY66 on September 22, 2015, 12:56:20 pm
do you have a part number for that steering wheel ?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on September 22, 2015, 02:14:40 pm
This was the eBay auction:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/262052795465
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on September 28, 2015, 12:30:47 pm
So it transpires that illumination will actually never work, I need the CH controller (but knew that would probably be required) and also I need a modified loom to make the horn work.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: ady-uk on September 29, 2015, 08:32:49 am
So it transpires that illumination will actually never work, I need the CH controller (but knew that would probably be required) and also I need a modified loom to make the horn work.

I have a Mk5 Golf 4Motion and Alex spent an afternoon testing his Mk7 wheel in my car

All buttons and illumination worked.
I have seen it working in my car.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: MK1Campaign on September 29, 2015, 09:57:48 am
How do you stand with airbag deployment on mods like this with the wheel being from another MK?

Surely injury is possible if the wheels at a different position.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on October 02, 2015, 09:28:52 pm
This is now all working (due to me missing the MFSW wiring completely thanks @olsen-72 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4567) ).

I replaced the controller with the CH version, nav etc all coded up. Needed to do some basic settings on the steering and abs systems. But no error codes now.

Illumination still doesn't work unfortunately. If anyone else comes up with a solution, it would be great to find out.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Cam6353 on October 10, 2015, 09:20:15 pm
Hi there,

Looking to put a mk7 wheel in my mk5, I have the highline display which requires the steering wheel buttons to work to operate it, does anyone know how much modification to the loom is needed to make the buttons work and the horn.
Also is the airbag plug the same?

cheers in advance
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on October 12, 2015, 05:20:45 am
No loom modification required. Make sure your new steering wheel and airbag come with the correct loom. Just need a CH controller coding correctly.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: roshan2529 on November 09, 2015, 04:11:27 pm
Hi

I am too facing the same issue when trying to fit mk7 gli steering wheel on a mk5 jetta 2010..
- some buttons work but do not light up
- and horn not working.

i have also installed a ch controller after instructed by the seller of steering.

what kind of a wiring change is required?? do i need a different controller? or slipring.

Pls help.

Thanks,
Roshan
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on November 10, 2015, 04:57:25 pm
No wiring changes were needed to get the horn working.

Illumination is impossible without a Mk6 steering rack.

I'll probably look at swapping mine at some stage with someone that has a Mk6 Edition 35, as they can get the illumination working.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on November 10, 2015, 09:03:25 pm
Just installed mine the other day,  as with everyone else all works except illumination,  but do you really need it,  how many times do you look at the wheel once you know the buttons,  yes it's annoying but not end of world
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on November 10, 2015, 09:16:19 pm
Yeah it's nice. Just feels unfinished.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on November 10, 2015, 09:31:52 pm
Yeah it's nice. Just feels unfinished.
I'm with you 100% I'd love it to light up,  potentially you could run a lighting wire through slip ring to the leds in the wheel,  as long as slip ring has extra cable it's possible,  but for now I'm OK ish with it not lighting up,  there isn't going to be much inside them switches so easy to find the lighting wire?

it might even be possible to parallel up a mk5 wheel electronics box (the one in the wheel itself) with the new wheel, i might give this a go first, doubling up on the lin bus cable, this is all just wishfull thinking as i don't want to pay out tones of money for more mk6 parts just for illumination

just thought of something else the power to the switches only comes on when ignition is on, use this to power the leds by a bit of poking around in the switches, this would obviously be lit all the time including day times but worth a go
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: olsen-72 on November 10, 2015, 10:41:15 pm
Not sure how you gonna do it. All communication between module and SW goes only on 3 wires. That 3 wires are responsible for all buttons and illumination.
There is no slave module in mk7 steering wheel. It is integrated with buttons. In mk6 its separate small box.
In my opinion, the only way to get the buttons illuminate in mk5 is to swap steering wheel module for mk6 one. There is only one problem - steering angle sensor. In mk5 it is in steering column. In mk6 in steering rack.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 10, 2015, 11:03:47 pm
If you buy the right wheel then it will be an easy retrofit

Buttons work and illuminate
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on November 11, 2015, 01:09:56 am
If you buy the right wheel then it will be an easy retrofit

Buttons work and illuminate
But sadly Eddie not everyone on eBay for the 390 there going for is able to get the correct wheel,  if we could get them cheap we'd all have the correct one obvs

Plus looking up the part number of the wheel I have on etka it comes from the scirocco and polo,  polo being the car you mentioned earlier,  so surely should work? Edit just looked up wheel which is correct for both cars but switches are different part numbers for each car.

Plus could anyone confirm who does have or has seen illumination working if it's red or white,  as I'll just but the correct left hand switch module and change it,  if it defo works

One other quick thing for now,  anyone with dsg paddles confirm the plus and minus light up,  as you could back feed power into this to make illumination work?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on November 11, 2015, 03:06:41 am
I was convinced I actually had the Polo wheel with it not having cruise control but having red stitching.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 11, 2015, 07:52:20 am
fitted and working in a 2006 Jetta with white clocks

with working red illumination

(fault code is due to the mfa wiper stalk being disabled)

Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CH    HW: 1K0 953 549 CH
   Component: J0527           056 0111 
   Coding: 0000531
   Shop #: WSC 00152 210 91233
   VCID: 7AF1D597353CB9EE18-802E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 6C0 959 442 C
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1   H03 0102 
   Coding: 01048496
   Shop #: WSC 00000 

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
            000 -  -
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on November 11, 2015, 08:00:44 am
Cheers I was looking up the polo switch part numbers last night,  ic the 442 C has cruise but I'm more interested to know if 100% it has the mfd buttons on the wheel or the stalk,  I have previously seen polo wheels with only left hand buttons

Edit after checking Google images and cross referencing that with etka,  there is only one set (can't buy either side separately) of switches without any cruise buttons on,  6C0 959 442 (no letter's) these are priced cheapest out of the 5 sets at approximately 150 quid,  a bit annoying once you've bought a wheel but if you 100% want illumination then as Eddie has proved these are the switches you need
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on November 12, 2015, 02:33:19 pm
Interesting. Do you think a different airbag/multi function loom would be required too?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on November 12, 2015, 02:38:43 pm
No not at all,  just different set of switches,  I'll let you know in a months time or so when I buy a set
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on November 12, 2015, 05:37:54 pm
If you find some cheap on the bay let me know. If these work I'll just swallow the cost and buy a set too. Saves a much more expensive Mk6 steering rack being fitted.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 12, 2015, 08:55:35 pm
fitted and working in a 2006 Jetta with white clocks

with working red illumination

(fault code is due to the mfa wiper stalk being disabled)

Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CH    HW: 1K0 953 549 CH
   Component: J0527           056 0111 
   Coding: 0000531
   Shop #: WSC 00152 210 91233
   VCID: 7AF1D597353CB9EE18-802E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 6C0 959 442 C
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1   H03 0102 
   Coding: 01048496
   Shop #: WSC 00000 

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
            000 -  -

Sorry to be slightly off topic but where would the coding be to enable / disable mfa wiper stalk Ed?

Wondering if that is a simple fix to me not being able to access the menu screens on my clocks.  @vRSAlex (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1981) Are you familiar with this?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: roshan2529 on November 14, 2015, 06:52:09 pm
Hi Eddie,

Can u explain the process followed for the steering retrofit.  Since you have already cracked i..very eager to know how did pu accomplish this. Specifically the mk7 button illumination on while fitting on mk5.   

Thanks,
roshan
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on November 15, 2015, 10:18:20 pm
so i removed my wheel bits today to check part numbers as the wheel 1k8 419 091 AP can be fitted to the polo or scirocco according to ETKA

but what is specific to the polo is the air bag, so i have a polo wheel as the airbag is 6C0 880 201 G

but looking at ETKA you can have buttons 1K8 959 442 (possibly white illumination? But doesn't work with CH controller regardless ) fitted to both polo or scirocco, i have these buttons

or there are other buttons for the polo all starting with 6C0, so 6C0 959 442 (no letter) are a set of switches with NO cruise that light up red and will work with the CH control module, sadly its not that simple to find all this info about your wheel if your buying from eBay but if your lucky enough to get 6C0 buttons illumination should work. if your really desperate for buttons to light up the you need to order buttons from TPS for approx 150 quid.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on November 16, 2015, 04:11:30 pm
Is your wheel compatible?

I also have the same Polo airbag part number.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on November 16, 2015, 04:31:44 pm
I'm happy with the wheel and airbag in a mk5 golf,  Willing to take the risk if the bag is a little smaller.

The 1k8 buttons work but don't light

The 6c0 version C and D buttons are identical in size to the 1k8 buttons and are compatible with the ch control module and light, just have more buttons as it has cruise on the 6C0 buttons

I'm going to hold off paying for another set of switches as I'm going to try to get them to light another way,  just waiting for a cheap plug to come then I'll write up how to do it
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on November 16, 2015, 07:15:55 pm
Think I'll go with the Polo buttons. I want the red illumination to match all the other switch gear.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on November 18, 2015, 09:17:17 am
Today I tried by inputting various voltages 5 to 12 into the DSG paddle connection on the correct pin for illumination and as well as the negative pin to see if I could back feed power into the switches to light up.

Sadly this did not work so to reiterate there is no chance that the 1k8 buttons work with the ch control module

If you want them to light up you will need 6C0 959 442 no letter unless you want pointless cruise buttons on the wheel.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on November 19, 2015, 02:10:16 pm
EDIT UPDATE, sadly today i got some switches i mentioned earlier and they don't fit, currently trying to rectify the situation so please don't buy anything until i give the correct numbers etc
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 19, 2015, 07:44:18 pm

Matt (Bignod00) Wanted to say;  :P

Got home from the gym today to find a TNT driver at my house. :innocent:

Not the best photos but I was excited! :laugh:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fbignod00%2Freaders_ride_2015%2FIMAG1397_zpswmisfqga.jpg&hash=ac4e38e55da45f7b00e7d90430afd5a2faa65ace)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fbignod00%2Freaders_ride_2015%2FIMAG1391_zpsvgrrmduq.jpg&hash=1a2fbdc4c62953066c3841081fe4f5ea1c838e8b)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fbignod00%2Freaders_ride_2015%2FIMAG1390_zpsxfkuqzgz.jpg&hash=c8a43c6904ee36f6b3f421bac8733db1313280c7)

It'll be a nice addition to the motor, especially for trackdays! :party:
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on November 19, 2015, 07:49:27 pm
EDIT UPDATE, sadly today i got some switches i mentioned earlier and they don't fit, currently trying to rectify the situation so please don't buy anything until i give the correct numbers etc

Balls. Let us know how you get on.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Andy on November 19, 2015, 09:47:01 pm

Matt (Bignod00) Wanted to say;  :P

Got home from the gym today to find a TNT driver at my house. :innocent:

Not the best photos but I was excited! :laugh:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fbignod00%2Freaders_ride_2015%2FIMAG1397_zpswmisfqga.jpg&hash=ac4e38e55da45f7b00e7d90430afd5a2faa65ace)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fbignod00%2Freaders_ride_2015%2FIMAG1391_zpsvgrrmduq.jpg&hash=1a2fbdc4c62953066c3841081fe4f5ea1c838e8b)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fbignod00%2Freaders_ride_2015%2FIMAG1390_zpsxfkuqzgz.jpg&hash=c8a43c6904ee36f6b3f421bac8733db1313280c7)

It'll be a nice addition to the motor, especially for trackdays! :party:


Very nice Mike
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on November 20, 2015, 12:58:28 pm
so this is button illumination working on the Polo Scirocco 1K8 wheel with 1K8 switches (no cruise)

over the last 48 ish hours i ordered a set of buttons for my wheel which i thought would fit, but as i didn't fully check the PR numbers in ETKA i ended up with a smaller set of buttons for my wheel, not good. returned them to TPS and as i was ordering yet another set that were now more expensive they exchanged them.

last night i was at work and had 12 hours to kill and my original set of buttons with me, i started tracing out the illumination circuit on the switches and decided just to give it a go of powering it up directly with 12v.

I won't go on anymore other to say that i tried feeding the 12v to the illumination pin of the DSG paddle but bizarrely only lit up one set of switches even though i tried both sides of DSG paddle.

I found a point i could solder a wire too i tried this with 12v on it and all buttons came on.
 
so now i'm stuck with a set of switches on back order from TPS at a cost of 218 quid just to see if i could illuminate them.

thankfully TPS refunded (which i didn't think they did) the lot so today i'm happy.

The Issue for me is i DON'T WANT 5 or 7 extra buttons (adaptive/standard cruise control)  on my wheel just to get them to work with the CH module using the LIN Bus 2 settings, i'd rather have the standard buttons and either live with them not lighting or do my mod which you'll see some pics of soon.

we are really lucky in the MK5 that the power for the switches is ignition fed (terminal 15) so 12v is applied only when ignition is on, we can use this to power the led circuit inside the switches for it to work.

oh and one other thing if you want the extra buttons with cruise so it works out the box then as Eddie already said 6C0 959 442 C will get you buttons with standard cruise 6C0 959 442 D with adaptive cruise these cruise buttons will not work in your MK5 but will light up from the CH module,  all the other standard buttons will work as long as you have the CH control module.

if you have buttons 1K8 959 442 (these light up red NOT white as i previously thought) then follow this to get them to light up

remove the switches from there holders T8 torx, remove the back cover of the switch that the black plug goes in 5 pointed safety torx (jam the T8 in there)

now look for this terminal

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_114255_zpshebhwo2w.jpg&hash=c9e9ffbbbeb72b626fe4ef8b8734dbe0ecccd5d7)

this is common POSITIVE they put the resistors in the negative (cathode) side of the LED this  common positive powers all leds on both switches.

Annoyingly i could only find somewhere on the front of the switch so be very careful when putting back together incase you rip the copper track off the board as you'll be bending the wire back round the circuit board.

so put the circuit board back together and route the tiny wire to here

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_114752_zps2ipfqwzx.jpg&hash=d074e24d2dce9b6944eb3c1530c737810263f102)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_115302_zpsislkog1d.jpg&hash=197907cb02250e0d7389bdcdb1d5a3d7a9cfb4d6)

solder to terminal 2 the +12v, now when you turn the key all the buttons will light up including in the day time.

test before putting it all back together

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_120813_zpsq4kngsai.jpg&hash=eb71d1ec3a4f385e5a7cb93bb4c1e302fd845c5a)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_120808_zpsiwyyxfui.jpg&hash=af8a5f20e040e200b6e156884c29b655ea6adcdd)

any questions feel free to ask
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on November 20, 2015, 01:22:32 pm
Awesome work.  :happy2:

Such a simple solution. Need to get my buttons off and check the part numbers.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on November 21, 2015, 02:09:20 pm
Done this mod. Annoyingly only 1 side of my switches light up.  :sad1:
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 21, 2015, 02:25:55 pm

Wow this mod seems quite involved!
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on November 21, 2015, 05:15:48 pm
Mine are completely f*cked now after disassembly the 2nd time. Ripped the solder off, board is knackered and now I don't have an MF buttons working. So need to replace all the buttons now anyway.

And my horn no longer works.

Ripped my controls off now. Tried repairing but no good. So left them off. Also damaged the silver surround after removing and refitting 4 times. Tab broke. All the tabs eventually broke on the steering button backings too.

So basically, don't bother modifying cars as it makes you want to burn the f*cking things.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: doylebros on November 21, 2015, 06:21:10 pm
so this is button illumination working on the Polo Scirocco 1K8 wheel with 1K8 switches (no cruise)

over the last 48 ish hours i ordered a set of buttons for my wheel which i thought would fit, but as i didn't fully check the PR numbers in ETKA i ended up with a smaller set of buttons for my wheel, not good. returned them to TPS and as i was ordering yet another set that were now more expensive they exchanged them.

last night i was at work and had 12 hours to kill and my original set of buttons with me, i started tracing out the illumination circuit on the switches and decided just to give it a go of powering it up directly with 12v.

I won't go on anymore other to say that i tried feeding the 12v to the illumination pin of the DSG paddle but bizarrely only lit up one set of switches even though i tried both sides of DSG paddle.

I found a point i could solder a wire too i tried this with 12v on it and all buttons came on.
 
so now i'm stuck with a set of switches on back order from TPS at a cost of 218 quid just to see if i could illuminate them.

thankfully TPS refunded (which i didn't think they did) the lot so today i'm happy.

The Issue for me is i DON'T WANT 5 or 7 extra buttons (adaptive/standard cruise control)  on my wheel just to get them to work with the CH module using the LIN Bus 2 settings, i'd rather have the standard buttons and either live with them not lighting or do my mod which you'll see some pics of soon.

we are really lucky in the MK5 that the power for the switches is ignition fed (terminal 15) so 12v is applied only when ignition is on, we can use this to power the led circuit inside the switches for it to work.

oh and one other thing if you want the extra buttons with cruise so it works out the box then as Eddie already said 6C0 959 442 C will get you buttons with standard cruise 6C0 959 442 D with adaptive cruise these cruise buttons will not work in your MK5 but will light up from the CH module,  all the other standard buttons will work as long as you have the CH control module.

if you have buttons 1K8 959 442 (these light up red NOT white as i previously thought) then follow this to get them to light up

remove the switches from there holders T8 torx, remove the back cover of the switch that the black plug goes in 5 pointed safety torx (jam the T8 in there)

now look for this terminal

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_114255_zpshebhwo2w.jpg&hash=c9e9ffbbbeb72b626fe4ef8b8734dbe0ecccd5d7)

this is common POSITIVE they put the resistors in the negative (cathode) side of the LED this  common positive powers all leds on both switches.

Annoyingly i could only find somewhere on the front of the switch so be very careful when putting back together incase you rip the copper track off the board as you'll be bending the wire back round the circuit board.

so put the circuit board back together and route the tiny wire to here

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_114752_zps2ipfqwzx.jpg&hash=d074e24d2dce9b6944eb3c1530c737810263f102)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_115302_zpsislkog1d.jpg&hash=197907cb02250e0d7389bdcdb1d5a3d7a9cfb4d6)

solder to terminal 2 the +12v, now when you turn the key all the buttons will light up including in the day time.

test before putting it all back together

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_120813_zpsq4kngsai.jpg&hash=eb71d1ec3a4f385e5a7cb93bb4c1e302fd845c5a)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_120808_zpsiwyyxfui.jpg&hash=af8a5f20e040e200b6e156884c29b655ea6adcdd)

any questions feel free to ask
As always SI very informative and educational for us on lookers.

Just a thought couldn't you of drilled through the board to take the stress off the pcb track?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 21, 2015, 06:56:38 pm

Luke, if you use a non mfsw loom for now and re code the steering controller you should get your horn back?

I'll have a look in the shed , I'm sure I've got a non mfsw loom you can borrow
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on November 21, 2015, 08:05:41 pm
I'll get it sorted next week. Cheers Mike. I'm working in London for a few days next week, so don't need the car. It's just annoying.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 21, 2015, 09:01:37 pm
Know the feeling.

I've lost access to my high line / mfd menus atm, driving me bonkers. Hoping @vRSAlex (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1981) takes a look at it
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on November 21, 2015, 09:04:06 pm
Know the feeling.

I've lost access to my high line / mfd menus atm, driving me bonkers. Hoping @vRSAlex (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1981) takes a look at it
What have you done recently to the car?  Installed anything,  changed anything?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 21, 2015, 09:07:42 pm

It's seemed to happen when I tried a Gti Pirelli wheel on my Cupra.

The Gti had the little black box in the middle of the wheel (under airbag) connecting the left and right buttons. 

My buttons are just connected by the ribbon cable.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on November 21, 2015, 09:10:04 pm



As always SI very informative and educational for us on lookers.

Just a thought couldn't you of drilled through the board to take the stress off the pcb track?

I did consider this,  but was more worried about damaging anything else,  as my wire was tiny it wasn't that bad,  I should have found a better terminal but once I found one that lit all the lights up I was happy
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on November 21, 2015, 09:12:00 pm

It's seemed to happen when I tried a Gti Pirelli wheel on my Cupra.

The Gti had the little black box in the middle of the wheel (under airbag) connecting the left and right buttons. 

My buttons are just connected by the ribbon cable.
Do all the buttons work,  but you don't have menus or have the buttons stopped working? What year is your cupra?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 21, 2015, 09:15:44 pm

My buttons work.

My previous set of buttons went faulty and with that the horn stopped working.

Now the buttons work (control Sony headunit via connects2 stereo harness) indoor have Bluetooth.

The menus used to be accessed by holding the wiper stalk
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on November 21, 2015, 09:25:56 pm
Sadly I can't be on any help Mike,  I'm sure there is a combination of things you you could try,  like getting a cheap set of buttons that use the black box,  do you know if your car uses a steering wheel control module
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 21, 2015, 09:31:16 pm

I have a CH module under the column.  The wheel doesn't have a little module under the airbag like some of the golfs do
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on November 21, 2015, 09:33:28 pm
Perhaps it needs recoding and checking for fault codes
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 21, 2015, 09:43:19 pm

Tried coding the CH controller a few times.

Ive just come across a couple of leon wheel on eBay with the little black box between the buttons.  Might try one of those sets of buttons.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on November 22, 2015, 12:56:02 pm
Got a guy on the same industrial estate that I'm hoping is a whizz with circuit boards, so fingers crossed he can repair it and potentially get the LEDs working on both sides too.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on November 23, 2015, 04:18:44 pm
Well. He can't do anything with my buttons.

So, what do I do? Buy another set of these buttons which definitely illuminate red and chance modifying them again? Or buy a set of buttons which will work, however, Si already tried that and they didn't.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on November 23, 2015, 09:03:50 pm
Well. He can't do anything with my buttons.

So, what do I do? Buy another set of these buttons which definitely illuminate red and chance modifying them again? Or buy a set of buttons which will work, however, Si already tried that and they didn't.

That's not strictly true i haven't tried any others than 1k8 i did buy another set but these were the wrong size so i never powered them up, if you don't mind extra cruise buttons on your wheel 6C0 959 442 C or D will light up red they cost approx 218 from TPS although flicking through Aliexpress.com i did find some on there a lot cheapoer but seem to have disapreaed now.

The 1K8 959 442 will cost approx 140 quid, hope you get it all sorted

Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on December 03, 2015, 02:14:18 pm
Got my new set of buttons and given them to someone else to solder and hopefully work properly this time.  :happy2:

My right hand buttons must have been duff before.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on December 04, 2015, 10:59:45 am
Well. My 2nd set of brand new switches from TPS have been modified and they also only light up on one side. Frustrating.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on December 04, 2015, 11:28:59 am
This is really weird,  I have replied to your message hopefully something can be done
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Snake on February 08, 2016, 11:08:15 pm
so this is button illumination working on the Polo Scirocco 1K8 wheel with 1K8 switches (no cruise)

over the last 48 ish hours i ordered a set of buttons for my wheel which i thought would fit, but as i didn't fully check the PR numbers in ETKA i ended up with a smaller set of buttons for my wheel, not good. returned them to TPS and as i was ordering yet another set that were now more expensive they exchanged them.

last night i was at work and had 12 hours to kill and my original set of buttons with me, i started tracing out the illumination circuit on the switches and decided just to give it a go of powering it up directly with 12v.

I won't go on anymore other to say that i tried feeding the 12v to the illumination pin of the DSG paddle but bizarrely only lit up one set of switches even though i tried both sides of DSG paddle.

I found a point i could solder a wire too i tried this with 12v on it and all buttons came on.
 
so now i'm stuck with a set of switches on back order from TPS at a cost of 218 quid just to see if i could illuminate them.

thankfully TPS refunded (which i didn't think they did) the lot so today i'm happy.

The Issue for me is i DON'T WANT 5 or 7 extra buttons (adaptive/standard cruise control)  on my wheel just to get them to work with the CH module using the LIN Bus 2 settings, i'd rather have the standard buttons and either live with them not lighting or do my mod which you'll see some pics of soon.

we are really lucky in the MK5 that the power for the switches is ignition fed (terminal 15) so 12v is applied only when ignition is on, we can use this to power the led circuit inside the switches for it to work.

oh and one other thing if you want the extra buttons with cruise so it works out the box then as Eddie already said 6C0 959 442 C will get you buttons with standard cruise 6C0 959 442 D with adaptive cruise these cruise buttons will not work in your MK5 but will light up from the CH module,  all the other standard buttons will work as long as you have the CH control module.

if you have buttons 1K8 959 442 (these light up red NOT white as i previously thought) then follow this to get them to light up

remove the switches from there holders T8 torx, remove the back cover of the switch that the black plug goes in 5 pointed safety torx (jam the T8 in there)

now look for this terminal

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_114255_zpshebhwo2w.jpg&hash=c9e9ffbbbeb72b626fe4ef8b8734dbe0ecccd5d7)

this is common POSITIVE they put the resistors in the negative (cathode) side of the LED this  common positive powers all leds on both switches.

Annoyingly i could only find somewhere on the front of the switch so be very careful when putting back together incase you rip the copper track off the board as you'll be bending the wire back round the circuit board.

so put the circuit board back together and route the tiny wire to here

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_114752_zps2ipfqwzx.jpg&hash=d074e24d2dce9b6944eb3c1530c737810263f102)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_115302_zpsislkog1d.jpg&hash=197907cb02250e0d7389bdcdb1d5a3d7a9cfb4d6)

solder to terminal 2 the +12v, now when you turn the key all the buttons will light up including in the day time.

test before putting it all back together

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_120813_zpsq4kngsai.jpg&hash=eb71d1ec3a4f385e5a7cb93bb4c1e302fd845c5a)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_120808_zpsiwyyxfui.jpg&hash=af8a5f20e040e200b6e156884c29b655ea6adcdd)

any questions feel free to ask
I try to do that and only one side is working, could you tell me what to do?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Deako on February 09, 2016, 12:50:01 am
I have the same issue.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Simsonstar1974 on February 25, 2016, 06:35:11 am
Hi
Fitted R20 steering wheel into my MK6 (with the same 1K0.. CH steering module as MK5) and all buttons work but they wont illuminate. Yet.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2F20150425_120949.jpg&hash=021a05ecf4539dd482f9cad7923ef1ff2aeaea1e)

To get your buttons illuminate on MK5 you will need to swap the steering module from newer model 2010up. To make it easier I made myself wiring adapter so I can always remove it and put original module back.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2FIMG_5113.jpg&hash=8224834a56f2d5afc9f3a3771869b636393c6612)

I test fitted it in my car and on ady-uk 2005 MK5. All works as it should, buttons, illumination etc.
Also tested 3 or 4 MK7 and Rocco wheels with cruise buttons and non of them works with 1K0 or 5K0 modules. Only the one without cruise buttons works.

Thanks
Alex

Hi Alex! Nice work though! I am running in the same problems like you except I have an early MK 6 build..

Would you like to help me identifying why ilumination does not work? I checked the wiring plans of the new and old MFSW... Inside they're working similar (except the horn) but there's one wire which doesn't make sense... It's the one that goes in pin 8 into the slip ring.
Would you like to check if theres any current on the pin with your configuration? I will try to pin this one out and see if the mk vi mfsw still works.. Same with the new scirrocco SW.. My only difference is the swcm (i got the 1k0 953 549 CD)...
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: olsen-72 on February 25, 2016, 08:22:14 pm
Ad far as I know non of the 1K0 steering modules wont illuminate mk7/Scirocco steering wheel. Thats why I've swapped that for 5K0 SWCM.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Simsonstar1974 on February 25, 2016, 08:43:38 pm
Did you ever measure the currents of the single wires?
My theory is  that pin 8 (from slip ring) is for illumination for the new steering wheels and that the older swcm do not give any signal on that pin.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Simsonstar1974 on February 26, 2016, 07:23:45 pm
Would you share the pinout of the wiring, the part n/o of the plugs and the p/n of the 5k0 swcm that you're using right now?

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Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Simsonstar1974 on February 27, 2016, 01:10:24 pm
Pleeeeeeease! :notworthy:
I would spend a beer for the info for sure!
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Simsonstar1974 on February 29, 2016, 07:13:42 pm
@Alex:
Would you like to share how you created the adapter?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on February 29, 2016, 10:02:10 pm
Did you ever measure the currents of the single wires?
My theory is  that pin 8 (from slip ring) is for illumination for the new steering wheels and that the older swcm do not give any signal on that pin.

sorry to tell you there is no extra pin for illumination, this is controlled within the buttons themselves via the lin bus comms cable (purple) which does all the button comms plus illumination comms, cruise uses a separate cable for setting which is grey.

Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Simsonstar1974 on March 01, 2016, 05:49:54 am
That's too sad...
That would mean that I need to swap the SWCM to the new 5K0... -Version.
I just need to know how to build the adapter :-(

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Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: SI-R32 on March 01, 2016, 06:25:17 am
That's too sad...
That would mean that I need to swap the SWCM to the new 5K0... -Version.
I just need to know how to build the adapter :-(

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just out of interest where are you based roughly, if your near me i'd quite happily look at illuminating your wheel like i did with a cable free of charge just to sort it out?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Simsonstar1974 on March 01, 2016, 06:29:27 am
I am located in Hamburg :-)

I register because in this forum as the efforts in doing tweaks and mods are way higher than in german forums, honestly speaking...

The german attitude is always like "will not work" or "don't try this you will fail"...


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Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Simsonstar1974 on March 08, 2016, 07:03:50 pm
So does anybody likes to share how to illuminate the buttons w/o soldering wires inside the steering wheel?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Helldash on March 21, 2016, 08:29:54 pm
Hello m'y name is yoan. I havé à édition 30 im french

I put a mk7 gti steering wheels with mk6 Cruise control and CH modul

With 6c buttons whit light.   All button run. But i dont have horn have you a idea of the problem ? Is the mk7 harness on the airbag

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fr642%2FYoan_Joaquim%2Fimage_zpsbhvr7eyj.jpeg&hash=3affe0b79ecfeb576784b3604045189bfc4ff1fd)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fr642%2FYoan_Joaquim%2Fimage_zpsuxizkqhe.jpeg&hash=71ccc26944e6248a658bedc2c1cb03398a8efee7)
I have find this on the buttons .... This is Oem ?????
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fr642%2FYoan_Joaquim%2Fimage_zpsft0sc4di.jpeg&hash=9b69cf20d5876140b5959db3043ae9fb115bb12c)
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Lew on March 22, 2016, 10:15:07 pm
I've fitted one to my jetta but none of the buttons work. Looks the business tho  :happy2:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fquiggers92%2FMobile_Uploads%2Fimage_zps01251eb4.jpg&hash=bc8ce8e4725e2bd84344628421858f22822e495c)


Looks quality but I'm not sure if it suits the MK5 interior as well as the original flat
bottom MK5 wheel!
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Stapper on July 15, 2016, 05:35:06 pm
Hi, i've got a Scirocco Steering wheel fitted into my Passat, got everyting working except the illuminating of the buttons.
Now i want to try the fix from SI-R32 but i cant get the silver part of the wheel. I'm affrait to damage my wheel alsow i cant see where the clips are locaded.
I annyone has a tip, they are verry welkom.

(Sorry for the poor english, i'm from belguim)
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Ed30aaron on November 14, 2016, 12:32:23 am
Hi
Fitted R20 steering wheel into my MK6 (with the same 1K0.. CH steering module as MK5) and all buttons work but they wont illuminate. Yet.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2F20150425_120949.jpg&hash=021a05ecf4539dd482f9cad7923ef1ff2aeaea1e)

To get your buttons illuminate on MK5 you will need to swap the steering module from newer model 2010up. To make it easier I made myself wiring adapter so I can always remove it and put original module back.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2FIMG_5113.jpg&hash=8224834a56f2d5afc9f3a3771869b636393c6612)

I test fitted it in my car and on ady-uk 2005 MK5. All works as it should, buttons, illumination etc.
Also tested 3 or 4 MK7 and Rocco wheels with cruise buttons and non of them works with 1K0 or 5K0 modules. Only the one without cruise buttons works.

Thanks
Alex

Hi Alex I have a mk7 gti wheel (no cruise) waiting to go into a mk5 without MFSW.
Can this be retrofitted getting the buttons to illuminate and work. If so is this something you still do?

Cheers Aaron
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: bigwig74 on December 27, 2016, 12:14:19 am
so nobody else come up with an illumination solution yet then?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: spacewalker on January 01, 2017, 12:08:47 pm
Finally working  :signLOL:

Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: olsen-72 on January 01, 2017, 12:12:54 pm
So maybe you just explain what is involved in that @spacewalker
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: angelinked on January 10, 2017, 07:02:49 am
so this is button illumination working on the Polo Scirocco 1K8 wheel with 1K8 switches (no cruise)

over the last 48 ish hours i ordered a set of buttons for my wheel which i thought would fit, but as i didn't fully check the PR numbers in ETKA i ended up with a smaller set of buttons for my wheel, not good. returned them to TPS and as i was ordering yet another set that were now more expensive they exchanged them.

last night i was at work and had 12 hours to kill and my original set of buttons with me, i started tracing out the illumination circuit on the switches and decided just to give it a go of powering it up directly with 12v.

I won't go on anymore other to say that i tried feeding the 12v to the illumination pin of the DSG paddle but bizarrely only lit up one set of switches even though i tried both sides of DSG paddle.

I found a point i could solder a wire too i tried this with 12v on it and all buttons came on.
 
so now i'm stuck with a set of switches on back order from TPS at a cost of 218 quid just to see if i could illuminate them.

thankfully TPS refunded (which i didn't think they did) the lot so today i'm happy.

The Issue for me is i DON'T WANT 5 or 7 extra buttons (adaptive/standard cruise control)  on my wheel just to get them to work with the CH module using the LIN Bus 2 settings, i'd rather have the standard buttons and either live with them not lighting or do my mod which you'll see some pics of soon.

we are really lucky in the MK5 that the power for the switches is ignition fed (terminal 15) so 12v is applied only when ignition is on, we can use this to power the led circuit inside the switches for it to work.

oh and one other thing if you want the extra buttons with cruise so it works out the box then as Eddie already said 6C0 959 442 C will get you buttons with standard cruise 6C0 959 442 D with adaptive cruise these cruise buttons will not work in your MK5 but will light up from the CH module,  all the other standard buttons will work as long as you have the CH control module.

if you have buttons 1K8 959 442 (these light up red NOT white as i previously thought) then follow this to get them to light up

remove the switches from there holders T8 torx, remove the back cover of the switch that the black plug goes in 5 pointed safety torx (jam the T8 in there)

now look for this terminal

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_114255_zpshebhwo2w.jpg&hash=c9e9ffbbbeb72b626fe4ef8b8734dbe0ecccd5d7)

this is common POSITIVE they put the resistors in the negative (cathode) side of the LED this  common positive powers all leds on both switches.

Annoyingly i could only find somewhere on the front of the switch so be very careful when putting back together incase you rip the copper track off the board as you'll be bending the wire back round the circuit board.

so put the circuit board back together and route the tiny wire to here

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_114752_zps2ipfqwzx.jpg&hash=d074e24d2dce9b6944eb3c1530c737810263f102)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_115302_zpsislkog1d.jpg&hash=197907cb02250e0d7389bdcdb1d5a3d7a9cfb4d6)

solder to terminal 2 the +12v, now when you turn the key all the buttons will light up including in the day time.

test before putting it all back together

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_120813_zpsq4kngsai.jpg&hash=eb71d1ec3a4f385e5a7cb93bb4c1e302fd845c5a)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_120808_zpsiwyyxfui.jpg&hash=af8a5f20e040e200b6e156884c29b655ea6adcdd)

any questions feel free to ask

Hey brother. I have the same module (CH) and the same steering wheel, although my buttons are Part No: 5G0 959 442 L
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1   H10 0101 
   Coding: 01048485

Do you know if this mod will actually work for mine as well?
Cheers
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Christiank on January 18, 2017, 09:19:30 pm
Hi guys!
I got the CH control module in my mk5 now, and I'm currently running with a mk6 mfsw but I really want to upgrade this to a FB mk7 mfsw.

Maybe someone could help me locate which wheel I need?
I need red illumination to work, horn need to work and I don't have to have the cruise control. Is this possible with my CH module?

Read this topic about 10 times now, and can't seem to find part number for the steering wheel mentioned anywhere... Only buttons

Regards
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Alphatier on February 07, 2017, 10:29:35 pm
Hello,

I made the retrofit of a Scirocco Facelift Steering Wheel in my MK5 of 2007 with this Steering Wheel Module: 5k0 953 569 B (I had a 1K0 ... BG)
Now the problem is, that the steering angle sensor is missing, so I got a 5k0 953 569 T, this Module has a sensor integrated, but I can`t get the ignition on... I can program it with VCDS when I pull brake and push hazard systems, but I don`t know now, what to do next...

I saw, that olsen-72 did the same retrofit and it worked fine. Can you send me the coding and the part number of your module? Would be so nice :) It is my last chance...
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: fab5freddy on February 09, 2017, 12:48:31 pm
Hello,

I made the retrofit of a Scirocco Facelift Steering Wheel in my MK5 of 2007 with this Steering Wheel Module: 5k0 953 569 B (I had a 1K0 ... BG)
Now the problem is, that the steering angle sensor is missing, so I got a 5k0 953 569 T, this Module has a sensor integrated, but I can`t get the ignition on... I can program it with VCDS when I pull brake and push hazard systems, but I don`t know now, what to do next...

I saw, that olsen-72 did the same retrofit and it worked fine. Can you send me the coding and the part number of your module? Would be so nice :) It is my last chance...

@olsen-72 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4567)
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: olsen-72 on February 09, 2017, 12:50:13 pm
I fitted 549 module in mine
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: fab5freddy on February 09, 2017, 12:54:54 pm
I fitted 549 module in mine

@Alphatier (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18459)
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: olsen-72 on February 09, 2017, 01:00:25 pm
Besides... I dont think its coding issue mate. More likely wired wrong
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Alphatier on February 10, 2017, 07:00:44 am
This "project" is killing me  :sad1:
Now I know that a passat control module will never work in a PQ35 car because of the missing ignition lock... Even coding doesn't change this.

Thanks for your reply! I think that 549 and 569 have different pinnings, but because of the "working" 569 B (except from the missing steering angle sensor) I think my pinning for 569 should be correct.

I got a 569 with LWS for PQ35 now, which I will try at the weekend and if this doesn't work, I'll rebuild to 549 Highline, I think B or D...

Thanks for your help, mate!
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: jason_rmh on February 11, 2018, 01:27:21 pm
Well. My 2nd set of brand new switches from TPS have been modified and they also only light up on one side. Frustrating.
Dragging up an old thread....

I'm do this at the moment and have the same problem.

All buttons work, and horn, no illumination, as we know.
So I did Si's wiring mod, but only one side of the buttons illuminate.

Did you ever get to the bottom of it?

Jas
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Pissat4motion on November 15, 2018, 09:57:49 pm
Picked up a mk7 golf mfsw and have a CH module on order. OBDeleven for coding. With the exception of button illumination, should what I have be enough to get button and horn function?


Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: AndreaMala on November 19, 2018, 07:56:28 am
so this is button illumination working on the Polo Scirocco 1K8 wheel with 1K8 switches (no cruise)

over the last 48 ish hours i ordered a set of buttons for my wheel which i thought would fit, but as i didn't fully check the PR numbers in ETKA i ended up with a smaller set of buttons for my wheel, not good. returned them to TPS and as i was ordering yet another set that were now more expensive they exchanged them.

last night i was at work and had 12 hours to kill and my original set of buttons with me, i started tracing out the illumination circuit on the switches and decided just to give it a go of powering it up directly with 12v.

I won't go on anymore other to say that i tried feeding the 12v to the illumination pin of the DSG paddle but bizarrely only lit up one set of switches even though i tried both sides of DSG paddle.

I found a point i could solder a wire too i tried this with 12v on it and all buttons came on.
 
so now i'm stuck with a set of switches on back order from TPS at a cost of 218 quid just to see if i could illuminate them.

thankfully TPS refunded (which i didn't think they did) the lot so today i'm happy.

The Issue for me is i DON'T WANT 5 or 7 extra buttons (adaptive/standard cruise control)  on my wheel just to get them to work with the CH module using the LIN Bus 2 settings, i'd rather have the standard buttons and either live with them not lighting or do my mod which you'll see some pics of soon.

we are really lucky in the MK5 that the power for the switches is ignition fed (terminal 15) so 12v is applied only when ignition is on, we can use this to power the led circuit inside the switches for it to work.

oh and one other thing if you want the extra buttons with cruise so it works out the box then as Eddie already said 6C0 959 442 C will get you buttons with standard cruise 6C0 959 442 D with adaptive cruise these cruise buttons will not work in your MK5 but will light up from the CH module,  all the other standard buttons will work as long as you have the CH control module.

if you have buttons 1K8 959 442 (these light up red NOT white as i previously thought) then follow this to get them to light up

remove the switches from there holders T8 torx, remove the back cover of the switch that the black plug goes in 5 pointed safety torx (jam the T8 in there)

now look for this terminal

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_114255_zpshebhwo2w.jpg&hash=c9e9ffbbbeb72b626fe4ef8b8734dbe0ecccd5d7)

this is common POSITIVE they put the resistors in the negative (cathode) side of the LED this  common positive powers all leds on both switches.

Annoyingly i could only find somewhere on the front of the switch so be very careful when putting back together incase you rip the copper track off the board as you'll be bending the wire back round the circuit board.

so put the circuit board back together and route the tiny wire to here

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_114752_zps2ipfqwzx.jpg&hash=d074e24d2dce9b6944eb3c1530c737810263f102)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_115302_zpsislkog1d.jpg&hash=197907cb02250e0d7389bdcdb1d5a3d7a9cfb4d6)

solder to terminal 2 the +12v, now when you turn the key all the buttons will light up including in the day time.

test before putting it all back together

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_120813_zpsq4kngsai.jpg&hash=eb71d1ec3a4f385e5a7cb93bb4c1e302fd845c5a)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FSI-R32%2Fbutton_illumination%2F20151120_120808_zpsiwyyxfui.jpg&hash=af8a5f20e040e200b6e156884c29b655ea6adcdd)

any questions feel free to ask

I have a Scirocco of 2009 then with electronics Golf 5 2008 and I welded the wire as in the picture but the keys are lit only on the left side where the wire was welded!

does anyone know why?

steering module 1k0 953 549 CH and red Keys!

http://i63.tinypic.com/20s7r6w.jpg
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Pissat4motion on January 09, 2019, 12:51:45 am
Installed this beaut. Replaced clock spring (C), swcm (CH) and cc stalk (G), also mfsw wiring loom 5G0971584G.
Presently have no horn function. Only buttons that work are on the right. The OK button reduces volume and the silver buttons advance or start over/goes to previous music selection.
No other buttons function.
Think I've tried most Lin 2.0 coding combinations..
0000532/534/512/514/732/734/712/714
All with the same result.
Tried Lin 1.3 and no buttons function.
Anyone have an idea what the issue is?
*car is an 07 GTI w/ mfsw(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190109/cc7aee57f7f9c2c2142b369d53bf90fb.jpg)

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: olsen-72 on January 09, 2019, 08:42:13 am
Should be 000534. Check your airbag loom if its correct one. There are 3 and 4 wires versions
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Pissat4motion on January 09, 2019, 05:56:07 pm
Should be 000534. Check your airbag loom if its correct one. There are 3 and 4 wires versions
Thanks for the reply @olsen-72
Tried that code. Confident I have the correct loom  (airbag, controls + 1 blue + 2 brown).

It's interesting because I've read that some of the steering wheels are actual mk7-look with previous generation internals and actual mk7 wheels won't work. Can't imagine everyone in this thread doesn't know the difference lol. Looking at back up plans in case I can't get it to function as other's have.

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Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: AndreaMala on January 10, 2019, 05:38:49 pm
I think the problem is this 5G0971584G cable

MFS button are from the Polo(6R/6C)?

6C0971584G (Scirocco Polo ecc)
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Jonbrown88 on June 21, 2019, 03:10:41 am
Would i beable to fit the mk7 to my mk5 tdi & is there any forsale!
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Team Traxxion on September 25, 2019, 01:57:09 pm
@olsen-72 (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4567) Oe @Eddie-NL (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2345) You guys seem in the know and have had some great results with this. Like others I’ve read this thread several times and think I know what I need but, I have a 2006 GTi with DSG.

Other than paddles my steering wheel has no buttons, not an MFSW, and I would love to have a MFSW. I have a steering wheel from another mk5, not flat bottom, can you swap the buttons to my wheel? Do I need the CH controller which I’ll need for a MK6 wheel anyway?

I would do this as a temporary fix until I can find a reasonably priced MK6 or 7 wheel. I’ve previously changed my R32 to a MK6 and that was easy, but looks l8ke the MK7 is a mine field :thinking: I think, unless I can find a MK7 wheel with no cruise or get the steering wheel buttons to control the cruise and lose my cruise stalk, a MK6 wheel is my limit!

Thanks in advance guys. I’m looking to go white dials next! :scared:
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Christiank on September 28, 2019, 09:13:06 pm
Buy facelift scirocco steering wheel, it has red button illumination and no CC/ACC buttons (mostly) - it will work since it based on PQ platform car.

Golf 7 is MQB which uses different "language" for the button that our Mk5 does


However it can work, I have Mk7 R steering wheel installed to my mk5 with CC buttons and all working
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: terrier on September 29, 2019, 10:20:23 am
Cant beat the mk5 flatty for looks especially with red or yellow thread :driver:
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Team Traxxion on September 29, 2019, 06:06:05 pm
Buy facelift scirocco steering wheel, it has red button illumination and no CC/ACC buttons (mostly) - it will work since it based on PQ platform car.

Golf 7 is MQB which uses different "language" for the button that our Mk5 does


However it can work, I have Mk7 R steering wheel installed to my mk5 with CC buttons and all working

Do you happen to have a part number to ensure I get the right one? Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: RobC on October 04, 2019, 10:45:08 am
Buy facelift scirocco steering wheel, it has red button illumination and no CC/ACC buttons (mostly) - it will work since it based on PQ platform car.

Golf 7 is MQB which uses different "language" for the button that our Mk5 does


However it can work, I have Mk7 R steering wheel installed to my mk5 with CC buttons and all working

Did you have to change your steering rack Christian? Interested in the Scirocco one however as Im happy to keep CC on the stalk. Do you know Part No.?

Rob
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: ady-uk on October 21, 2019, 08:06:06 am
@olsen-72 (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4567)
Alex from VW retrofit in Redditch currently has an interface board for sale
This is a rare piece of kit that (only few were made) that allows the mk7 steering wheel, WITH cruise buttons, to fully work
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Christiank on November 15, 2019, 09:01:03 pm
@olsen-72 (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4567)
Alex from VW retrofit in Redditch currently has an interface board for sale
This is a rare piece of kit that (only few were made) that allows the mk7 steering wheel, WITH cruise buttons, to fully work

nonsens...
I can get module that will be soldered to your 1K or 5K steering electronics that will allow ACC and CC buttons to work on also. So it's not that "rare" if you know the right people.

My module will give you the options to be coded with VCDS
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: ghassang on December 19, 2019, 12:42:57 am
@olsen-72 (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4567)
Alex from VW retrofit in Redditch currently has an interface board for sale
This is a rare piece of kit that (only few were made) that allows the mk7 steering wheel, WITH cruise buttons, to fully work

nonsens...
I can get module that will be soldered to your 1K or 5K steering electronics that will allow ACC and CC buttons to work on also. So it's not that "rare" if you know the right people.

My module will give you the options to be coded with VCDS

Where can I get this module from?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: RobC on January 03, 2020, 01:50:08 pm
@olsen-72 (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4567)
Alex from VW retrofit in Redditch currently has an interface board for sale
This is a rare piece of kit that (only few were made) that allows the mk7 steering wheel, WITH cruise buttons, to fully work

nonsens...
I can get module that will be soldered to your 1K or 5K steering electronics that will allow ACC and CC buttons to work on also. So it's not that "rare" if you know the right people.

My module will give you the options to be coded with VCDS

Where can I get this module from?

Sharing this info as it took a lot of effort myself to find out! I was sent the link below for the module but at €200 I couldnt warrant it on top of the price of the wheel etc -

http://xhorse.uk/product/mfsw-module-en/ (http://xhorse.uk/product/mfsw-module-en/)

In the end Ive sourced a Polo GTi wheel without cruise and have fitted with the CH module so all buttons work as my Mk5 did but I dont have illumination, which I can deal with.

However, it would be good to get clarity around this...it was mentioned before that you CAN get illumination but that requires a Mk6 steering rack. Now from what Ive read that will be a Gen 3 rack, which are now supplied as replacements for Mk5's anyway, albeit you also need an additional piece of loom and possible coding in VCDS. The coding is because the Gen 3 rack has the slip ring within it, however on the Mk5's we have the slip ring on the column behind the steering wheel so from what Ive understood you need to code the car to disable the slip ring in the rack? My question is it this that enables the steering wheel buttons to illuminate or is it just the additional wiring loom?

Would be good to know that when the current rack inevitably gives up that when I replace it the pain will be softened knowing Ill get illumination back on my steering wheel  :grin:

Rob
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: fikiskp on January 06, 2020, 01:23:08 pm
My MFSW from Sirrocco (no ACC no GRA) functions fully, however for the horn to function the loom had to be re-pinned. So now the horn functions. Is there another re-pinning that needs to be done in the loom for the illumination to work?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: owdi on March 02, 2020, 09:57:10 pm
My MFSW from Sirrocco (no ACC no GRA) functions fully, however for the horn to function the loom had to be re-pinned. So now the horn functions. Is there another re-pinning that needs to be done in the loom for the illumination to work?

Can you detail what you had to re-pin to get the horn functioning?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Mouni92nl on April 21, 2020, 09:47:55 pm
Did anyone figure out how to illuminate both left and right side buttons?
I followed the guide of soldering a wire in the left button module and this illuminates only that side.

Any help will be greatly appreciated !

Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Mouni92nl on April 22, 2020, 08:32:18 pm
I have the 1K8 959 442 steering wheel buttons.

Any help will be appreciated !
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: embryo on April 17, 2021, 08:21:13 pm
Did anyone figure out how to illuminate both left and right side buttons?
I followed the guide of soldering a wire in the left button module and this illuminates only that side.

Any help will be greatly appreciated !

Hi everyone.

I'm in the same situation. Did this mod, only left side illuminate.

I think we need add a wire between left and right side, but any idea where ?

Don't know if this help but in my configuration, the plug circled in red in the photo aren't plug anywhere. There is only a 5 or 6 wires loom between left and right side.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fRnWCpYy/vwwheelinside.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Mv58KsPJ)


Thanks a lot !


(https://i.postimg.cc/0Qd757xd/IMG-1-A41-C9-DEF05-C-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXjxNXxn)

(https://i.postimg.cc/8cpM7sz8/IMG-3294.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HcNVKYM3)


Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: embryo on April 18, 2021, 10:26:16 pm
Hello again !

To everyone struggling with only one side that illuminates, I think I've got a fix !

You need to solder another little wire between 2 points. Not easy to explain, photos will speak better.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hjXBSPgM/IMG-3299.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DJ3D6hSb)

(https://i.postimg.cc/d1gKDPVF/IMG-3300.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WFmyfyZY)

I already done the mod from @SI-R32 (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1757) (thanks a lot to you) but as many of you, I got only one side that illuminate.

Do some tests and referring to a photo of another wiring, I found a way to illuminate both sides.

(https://i.postimg.cc/YSwGGZj1/IMG-3300-copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0zc2htYQ)

And lights goes on ! Both sides !

(https://i.postimg.cc/pTWmkjfr/IMG-3301.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDyp1hfc)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QtfHzMmb/IMG-03-D1-D948-E280-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ygS1gswg)

Hope it helps some of you.

Cheers  :drinking:
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: davidpalen on April 22, 2021, 04:39:23 pm
Hello again !

To everyone struggling with only one side that illuminates, I think I've got a fix !

You need to solder another little wire between 2 points. Not easy to explain, photos will speak better.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hjXBSPgM/IMG-3299.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DJ3D6hSb)

(https://i.postimg.cc/d1gKDPVF/IMG-3300.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WFmyfyZY)

I already done the mod from @SI-R32 (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1757) (thanks a lot to you) but as many of you, I got only one side that illuminate.

Do some tests and referring to a photo of another wiring, I found a way to illuminate both sides.

(https://i.postimg.cc/YSwGGZj1/IMG-3300-copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0zc2htYQ)

And lights goes on ! Both sides !

(https://i.postimg.cc/pTWmkjfr/IMG-3301.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDyp1hfc)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QtfHzMmb/IMG-03-D1-D948-E280-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ygS1gswg)

Hope it helps some of you.

Cheers  :drinking:


Hello, is this mk7 steering wheel in a mk5 GTI?
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: embryo on May 13, 2021, 07:04:47 pm
Hello again !

To everyone struggling with only one side that illuminates, I think I've got a fix !

You need to solder another little wire between 2 points. Not easy to explain, photos will speak better.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hjXBSPgM/IMG-3299.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DJ3D6hSb)

(https://i.postimg.cc/d1gKDPVF/IMG-3300.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WFmyfyZY)

I already done the mod from @SI-R32 (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1757) (thanks a lot to you) but as many of you, I got only one side that illuminate.

Do some tests and referring to a photo of another wiring, I found a way to illuminate both sides.

(https://i.postimg.cc/YSwGGZj1/IMG-3300-copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0zc2htYQ)

And lights goes on ! Both sides !

(https://i.postimg.cc/pTWmkjfr/IMG-3301.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDyp1hfc)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QtfHzMmb/IMG-03-D1-D948-E280-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ygS1gswg)

Hope it helps some of you.

Cheers  :drinking:


Hello, is this mk7 steering wheel in a mk5 GTI?

Hello, it's a scirocco 2015 steering wheel (which is the same as the mk7 Golf, except the cruise control) on a mk5 tdi  :ashamed: :ashamed: :ashamed:
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: LegendaryAllen on May 19, 2021, 06:49:43 am
Nice work. Do you have a link to the original illumination mod please… TIA 🙏🏾
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: embryo on May 20, 2021, 02:02:56 pm
Nice work. Do you have a link to the original illumination mod please… TIA 🙏🏾

Yes it's on the page 4 of this topic : https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,87812.msg999999.html#msg999999
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Tokigt on July 08, 2021, 02:20:34 am
hi! new here but read this thread like 10 times but still cant figure out how i can fix the problem i got. I got a wheel whitout cc/acc buttons and changed the module to 1K0953549CH got all buttons working but dont illuminate and thats fine for me.
the problem for me is that i get code "00778 - Sensor for steering angle no or incorrect basic setting / adaptation statically". so i got no power steering. can this be coded or not becuse of the PQ platfrom and not MQB?
as i read @Alphatier (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18459) did get a 5k0 953 569 T, did this sort out that problem?
I drive a 05 mk5 gti

greatful for any help, thanks (:
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: cship on August 04, 2021, 11:22:32 am
Hi,

Is there anything extra needed,  wiring loom wise to put this wheel with non cruise control version into a MK6 GTI ?

As i have the opportunity to get my hands on a mk7 gti steering wheel, which if i am not wrong seems to be the same steering wheel as the polo gti.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Latiino94 on September 05, 2021, 12:53:06 am
Hello again !

To everyone struggling with only one side that illuminates, I think I've got a fix !

You need to solder another little wire between 2 points. Not easy to explain, photos will speak better.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hjXBSPgM/IMG-3299.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DJ3D6hSb)

(https://i.postimg.cc/d1gKDPVF/IMG-3300.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WFmyfyZY)

I already done the mod from @SI-R32 (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1757) (thanks a lot to you) but as many of you, I got only one side that illuminate.

Do some tests and referring to a photo of another wiring, I found a way to illuminate both sides.

(https://i.postimg.cc/YSwGGZj1/IMG-3300-copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0zc2htYQ)

And lights goes on ! Both sides !

(https://i.postimg.cc/pTWmkjfr/IMG-3301.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDyp1hfc)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QtfHzMmb/IMG-03-D1-D948-E280-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ygS1gswg)

Hope it helps some of you.

Cheers  :drinking:


Hello, is this mk7 steering wheel in a mk5 GTI?

Hello, it's a scirocco 2015 steering wheel (which is the same as the mk7 Golf, except the cruise control) on a mk5 tdi  :ashamed: :ashamed: :ashamed:


Hi there!
I saw ur comment about the steering wheel for mk5
I need some help from you? I have bought the steering wheel and module from a seller who have installed on her golf mk5
Do you have Facebook?

Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Elliothancock on December 19, 2021, 03:44:56 pm
Hey Guys'N'Gals! Sorry to be bringing up an old but continued thread. Im 99% of the way to success. I done the previous MOD and successfully got one side illuminated. I was going to go and do the second MOD to get the second side working, however the layout of my buttons are different. (2H0959442)

Anyone any advice to get the mod working on mine?

(https://i.postimg.cc/SxB3Cbd4/20211219-153136.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DScx3DRp)


Hello again !

To everyone struggling with only one side that illuminates, I think I've got a fix !

You need to solder another little wire between 2 points. Not easy to explain, photos will speak better.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hjXBSPgM/IMG-3299.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DJ3D6hSb)

(https://i.postimg.cc/d1gKDPVF/IMG-3300.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WFmyfyZY)

I already done the mod from @SI-R32 (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1757) (thanks a lot to you) but as many of you, I got only one side that illuminate.

Do some tests and referring to a photo of another wiring, I found a way to illuminate both sides.

(https://i.postimg.cc/YSwGGZj1/IMG-3300-copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0zc2htYQ)

And lights goes on ! Both sides !

(https://i.postimg.cc/pTWmkjfr/IMG-3301.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDyp1hfc)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QtfHzMmb/IMG-03-D1-D948-E280-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ygS1gswg)

Hope it helps some of you.

Cheers  :drinking:
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Elliothancock on December 24, 2021, 05:21:16 pm
***SOLVED***

OK, just incase anyone else comes across this for help. I worked out where the second wire needs to be attached to get both sets of lights to work.

PLEASE NOTE, the is for unit No. 2H0959442

(https://i.postimg.cc/Rh5t0SRM/20211224-133658.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJ58xSh7)

(https://i.postimg.cc/wB1Rcy4q/20211224-134214.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bGjvqJjW)

(https://i.postimg.cc/wjZjzWFz/20211224-135143.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bZ0hH9KV)
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Jons1001 on December 24, 2021, 07:25:04 pm
That looks seriously good 👍  if you ever consider doing this as a sideline I would love to get the mk7 steering wheel and some updated dials fitted :-)
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: spb on January 22, 2022, 08:13:10 pm
Using the car more and more at the track and less on public roads I decided to swap the chunky mk5 GTI steering wheel for a thinner easier to grip, especially with racing gloves, mk7 GTI steering wheel.
I went thru the thread 2 times but I'm still not sure if I got this right. I can get even a mfsw with cruise mk7 steering wheel and just the buttons will not work but paddles will work. If I want to get the buttons working I need to get modules without cruise control and replace them. Is this correct?
I see that polo 6c flat bottom steering wheels are quite cheap. Is the steering wheel outside perimeter the same as mk7 gti? Are the steering wheels from the following pictures the same? (the outline not buttons, airbag etc)
(https://i.postimg.cc/65KN23cv/image.png) (https://postimages.org/)


(https://i.postimg.cc/d0hMPTsz/image.png) (https://postimg.cc/gwbt3j6D)

(https://i.postimg.cc/j2QmQHcJ/image.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Atomic41 on March 29, 2022, 11:49:10 pm
I have a MK5 R32 and I want to install the MK7 Golf R steering wheel in my car

I see xhorse.pl sell a multifonction module + emulator but to fit it in my car

is it all I need :

Clock Spring : 5K0953569BC or 5K0953549B (don't know which one)
CH Rev steering wheel module (do I really need this part ?)
Cruise control button (I can VCDS to change them from the stick to the steering button ?)
VCDS Coding

Thanks for your help guys
Title: Re: Mk7 steering wheel into mk5 gti
Post by: Wastedspark on February 05, 2024, 08:15:49 am
Morning all,

Slight change to the thread,

I have a mk5 GTI manual and want to fit a mk7 steering wheel, I’m not bothered if any of the buttons work, can I bolt it in with the air bag and will the bag and horn work? Or is there more required?

Thanks Martin