MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: R-tech-Nick on October 17, 2011, 09:59:42 pm
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2.0TFSI Oil Pick up pipe blocked = Low oil pressure warning
I thought I broke a 78k 2.0TFSI.... :sick: I was happy custom mapping it from stock to stage2 power when the engine decided to cut out and give me a low oil pressure warning. :jumping: Panic set on for a few mins, only until I called the customer to ask him if it happend before, I was shocked :surprised: when he said yes, just turn the ignotion on and off and it will be fine.. :happy2:
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So if you have a 2.0TFSI get your oil pick up pipes checked out, it looks like they are going to be worse than the 1.8Ts in the long run. IMO if you have 80k+ and for what it costs get it replaced.
Oil pick up fixed engine flush and new oil & filter.. = happy tuner, happy customer and a nippy little A3.
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whats it blocked with???
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thought he would of mentioned it or get it fixed before the remap :stupid:
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whats it blocked with???
looks like sludge
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What does this oil pickup do then?
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thought he would of mentioned it or get it fixed before the remap :stupid:
You will be shocked by how many customers who try to hide issues from me, they know if it aint 100% I wont risk mapping there car, but they seem to be willing to take the risk.
Its just blocked up with general carbon build up and engine swarf, the inside of the sump was thick with built up gunk, on the the 1.8T engine i see it worse on cars which dont have dealer service history and £4.99 5lt oil get used along with a aftermarket oil filter.
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What does this oil pickup do then?
Its a feed from the oil pump to the oil in the sump of the engine, its has a corse filter to stop bits going into pump, but from what I have seen the design of the pick up pick just holds on to all the gunk.
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Well I never knew that! (along with
many most other things)
Cheers Nick :happy2:
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Well I never knew that! (along with many most other things)
Cheers Nick :happy2:
Now you do dude :happy2: Maybe this info will help you one day.
The oem parts to fit a new pick up cost less than £40
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whats the part number for it ?
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whats the part number for it ?
SD176404A2 = SEALANT RRP £17.05+VAT
06F115251A = OIL PICK UP £21.76+VAT
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thanks :)
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Thanks Nick for sharing it with our members. :happy2:
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Probably another good reason to avoid Long Life servicing.
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Is this a sump off job?
if so do you need a new sump gasket ? or is it a wet gasket?
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Is this a sump off job?
if so do you need a new sump gasket ? or is it a wet gasket?
Sump off to get to the pick up, its a easy job when on a car lift but could be a pain of it was done off a jacl and axle stands. There is not sump gasket, they use a special sealant SD176404A2, you just need to make sure both faces are clean
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Hmm - wondering if this is the case for my mk2 Leon. The warning flashed up for a few seconds and disappeared but the car was fine.
Haven't driven it since it appeared last Thursday as didn't want to risk it!
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Hmm - wondering if this is the case for my mk2 Leon. The warning flashed up for a few seconds and disappeared but the car was fine.
Haven't driven it since it appeared last Thursday as didn't want to risk it!
It would certainly be worth checking Kaz
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Had a Leon TFSi recently with a complete engine failure due to this problem, owner ignored the light and our warnings to stop driving the car but on his way to get his windows tinted things went bang. Bottom end failure, no compression in any cylinder.
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I had to explain to someone I knew why it was important to stop driving ASAP if the Oil pressure light came on.
Often its probably just a faulty pressure switch, but you cant afford to take that risk...or some of us can!
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I had this problem earlier this year with my car. Parked it up straight away and trailered it to my local specialist who tried changing the sensor which did nothing. He then dropped the sump and found the pickup pipe was badly blocked, did a full engine flush and scrubbed all the crap out of the sump, changed the oil and filters and it's been fine ever since
For reference, my car is an 06 GTI with about 48,000 miles on
Matt
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Probably another good reason to avoid Long Life servicing.
/\ /\ /\ /\ long life oil and short runs, This is going to happen.
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Thanks for the heads up, I've never been a fan of long life servicing, mine are all done once a year, I don't think the tt covers 2k a year. I might get them both checked at the next service (jabbasport not a main deler )
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Hi all
Is this issue something worth checking out on my 56 plate Edition 30??
Got me paranoid now!!
55000 miles with full VW service history.
Remap in the future!!!
Also on long life service plan, would you all recommend time and distance on a car like this? Driven everyday at least 10 miles, a lot more use at weekends.
Cheers
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Hi all
Is this issue something worth checking out on my 56 plate Edition 30??
Got me paranoid now!!
55000 miles with full VW service history.
Remap in the future!!!
Also on long life service plan, would you all recommend time and distance on a car like this? Driven everyday at least 10 miles, a lot more use at weekends.
Cheers
I only have come across it twice now, BUT imo for what it costs and takes to fit an new one it will be worth doing so you know its spot on. If you do swap it out can you post a picture up of the condition of the pick up pipe?
Nick
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I always have any car on time and distance rather than long life, I think I had 2 services last year as I was using the car alot. A minimum of a yearly service I think is best for any car
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I get mine serviced mine every 10k. I had the sump etc off last night and checked the pick up. Little bit in there but no where near as bad as the one in the link above.
However, mine had silicone in it?! Gave it a good clean and flushed it out, did some flushing oil round the engine too and popped some new oil in as well as a new oil filter.
Hoping my sensor was just having a moment that night as its not come back since *fingers crossed*.
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I had to explain to someone I knew why it was important to stop driving ASAP if the Oil pressure light came on.
Often its probably just a faulty pressure switch, but you cant afford to take that risk...or some of us can!
Mine flashed up for about 5 seconds when I was about a minute away from home, but then it disappeared. The car carried on driving though and I got home, parked it up and left it. Hopefully last night has helped. If it flashes up again I may get the switch checked out.
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I like to think mine wouldn't be too bad after 120k as its always consumed a bit of oil, so it's always being replaced.
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I get mine serviced mine every 10k. I had the sump etc off last night and checked the pick up. Little bit in there but no where near as bad as the one in the link above.
However, mine had silicone in it?! Gave it a good clean and flushed it out, did some flushing oil round the engine too and popped some new oil in as well as a new oil filter.
Hoping my sensor was just having a moment that night as its not come back since *fingers crossed*.
silicone in it? had the sump been off in the past?
Nick
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Not sure if it ever has been. However we cleaned it all out but it's still flashing, but only when the car is up to temperature and when I have been driving for 20 minutes or more.
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What does VCDS say?
Has it damaged the Oil pump?
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I can't see the pump itself being damaged. Surely if that was the case I would see the warning continuously? Or the car wouldn't feel too great?
I haven't had it checked via vag com, but one of the first times it happened a friend ran a check and no fault codes came up, or anything to do with oil or the pump etc for that matter.
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Hi guys. Thought I would post this for your information.
Pulled away from a junction today and oil warning went off for
3 seconds then the engine cut out. I did try to start the engine again
but it does not start. Read the DTCs but nothing there. Going to get through
Christmas and drop the sump. Will keep you informed.
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Oh dear that doesn't sound good :-/ if it has cut off I can only imagine it is a slightly more serious problem than what I had. Which just turned out to be the switch being dodgy so I just got that replaced.
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I've had a chance to drop the sump and its very clean. No blockage or sludge.
Managed to trace problem to a poor connection at the clocks. Took 20 mins to find and fix the clock
Issue. Wish I had checked that first. Anyway at least I know oil pick up is good.
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This has just happend to my pirelli edition what a fright i got thought i had blew it up lol this has helped alot cheers guys!
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Anyone got a new link with working images?
Would like to have a go at this. Damn you photobucket!
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Anyone got a new link with working images?
Would like to have a go at this. Damn you photobucket!
I put a post up about this yesterday in the Photobucket thread, hopefully this will help...
Chaps,
I dont know if this works for everyone but Ive found a workaround that works for me. Its not neat, but it works and will be useful for some of the 'How To' guides at least...
(Im using Google Chrome if that makes a difference)
- Right click the photo and click 'Open in New Tab' (When it opens in a new tab it will still show the Photobucket ransom message)
- Hold Ctrl & press F5 to refresh the page and once it refreshes you should be able to see said image
- Said image should even now show up in the post you were viewing originally (may have to refresh it)
Let me know if it works for you :happy2:
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Thanks for that @RobC (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=19863)
Just need a work around for mobile devices now!