Post by: Duffmeister on January 07, 2017, 06:26:01 pm
However that wasn't the case.
Is anyone running vw racing springs? If so what's the drop and what's the ride like.
Any help appreciated.
Post by: OEM+ DUB on January 07, 2017, 08:13:45 pm
I too have an 05 GTI (DSG) and fitted VWR springs, B8 Dampers, S3 front top mounts with new bearings, new rear mounts and new rear control arms (along with an S3 alloy hub conversion to match my S3 alloy front control arms) in June 2016 on my drive. I bought the springs at a 'show offer' price direct from the VWR stand at GTI International the previous year and then over the next 12 months picked up the B8's brand new for a bargain price off eBay along with all the other parts. I've covered just over 4000 miles since fitting and have been very happy with the set up, both from ride height and ride quality perspectives. The ride is firmer than the 90k original suspension (but then the original rear dampers were shot) and is very similar in feel to a factory Mk4 R32 with the B8's so actually comfortable with plenty of feel. If fitted with standard dampers the ride would be great too.
I would definitely consider fitting them again to other cars in the future (although I've had my current GTI for 8 years...).
Hope this helps.
Post by: xjay1337 on January 07, 2017, 08:36:36 pm
Hi, I have a 05 gti and have recently had Eibach sportline springs removed as the guy told me they lowered by 20mm
However that wasn't the case.
Is anyone running vw racing springs? If so what's the drop and what's the ride like.
Any help appreciated.
The Eibach Sportlines have one of the lowest drop available.
Other option is H&R springs.
VWR ones were Eibach but in a different colour. as far as I remember.
I very much like H&R Springs.
Post by: dronners on January 07, 2017, 09:05:23 pm
Post by: Duffmeister on January 08, 2017, 09:27:32 am
I'm after a subtle drop, I think the vw racing spring as said above is 15-20 which is about right for me.
What I'd like to know is Eibach make the vw R springs and from what I've read are the same drop as the pro kit, are these the same spring painted blue or a completely different item?
Confusingly the pro kit isn't listed as a GTI kit for the UK but is everywhere else but if used on the gti drops 15-20mm arrrgggh!
Please help my golf looks like a special off road version after looking at members cars on here!
Post by: Shoduchi on January 08, 2017, 10:07:47 am
Post by: bonelorry on January 08, 2017, 11:40:53 am
I saw a car on H&R's at R-Tech yesterday and it looked very low in comparison to mine, I would not have been happy with that on my own car but the VWR's are just right for me.
Post by: Duffmeister on January 08, 2017, 03:32:51 pm
Post by: pudding on January 09, 2017, 09:25:51 am
And the alloy hubs and wishbones. Despite getting the alloy parts secondhand cheaply, with the VWR springs/dampers, it's still well over £1K by the time new front wheel bearings, stretch bolts, bushes, mounts, ball joints etc is all factored in. At 107K old, I didn't want to add brand new springs and dampers to ancient running gear, so it should feel pretty darn good after all that goes on!
Post by: Shoduchi on January 09, 2017, 11:32:41 am
I've gone for the VWR kit also :smiley:
And the alloy hubs and wishbones. Despite getting the alloy parts secondhand cheaply, with the VWR springs/dampers, it's still well over £1K by the time new front wheel bearings, stretch bolts, bushes, mounts, ball joints etc is all factored in. At 107K old, I didn't want to add brand new springs and dampers to ancient running gear, so it should feel pretty darn good after all that goes on!
All those parts should make the handling improve a lot. :happy2:
Post by: bad devotions on January 09, 2017, 12:10:09 pm
Sounds like I need the vw racing kit then, thanks lads.
bonelorry has a build thread over at the mk6 section of the site so you can see how they look. I am considering this kit too; although i am really torn between that and blistien b8s with H&R springs.
Post by: Shoduchi on January 09, 2017, 12:13:34 pm
Sounds like I need the vw racing kit then, thanks lads.
bonelorry has a build thread over at the mk6 section of the site so you can see how they look. I am considering this kit too; although i am really torn between that and blistien b8s with H&R springs.
You'll have to decide how low you want your ride to be. :wink:
Post by: bad devotions on January 09, 2017, 12:16:07 pm
Sounds like I need the vw racing kit then, thanks lads.
bonelorry has a build thread over at the mk6 section of the site so you can see how they look. I am considering this kit too; although i am really torn between that and blistien b8s with H&R springs.
You'll have to decide how low you want your ride to be. :wink:
yip - i was really close to buying the full kit from awesome. However, I recently got new wheels with a 45 offset and figured the drop on H&R might be too much. But then i saw a build thread with the same spec wheels on H&R springs and think it looks really good. Now i have no clue! lol
Post by: pudding on January 09, 2017, 12:22:32 pm
Sounds like I need the vw racing kit then, thanks lads.
bonelorry has a build thread over at the mk6 section of the site so you can see how they look. I am considering this kit too; although i am really torn between that and blistien b8s with H&R springs.
OEM+ Dub's reference to the VWR spring + B8 damper combo feeling like a MK4 R32 is quite a good comparison. The R32 rides firmly without being harsh on decent surfaces, but over potholes and badly broken surfaces, it was too crashy for me (heavy 18s don't help) and partly why I sold the car. The OEM MK5 suspension is the same on the same surfaces though, but the benefit of OEM is more travel, so won't bottom out in the stops quite so easily.
The crashiness was at urban speeds. In common with other after market kits, things improve the faster you go though. The car feels way less 'jiggly', unsettled and fidgety on Bilsteins compared to OEM. It just feels properly keyed into the tarmac and super stable in the bends.
One thing I would say about the Bilsteins is their consistency of damping. The car feels the same in winter as it does summer. Some people may not notice the change in damping vs heat build up in the damper oil, but I did, and the B6/B8/B12 are simply superb dampers for consistency.
I would say the VWR full kit, or VWR springs + B8s would be more forgiving than B8s + HRs. The full VWR kit is probably not in the same league as the B8s under hard cornering and busy surfaces to damp, but is probably the best riding kit out there. And that's why I'm going VWR because 90% of my car's duties is commuting. I don't get many opportunities to hoon it, so ride is important.
Post by: dronners on January 09, 2017, 12:42:28 pm
i think you'll be pleasantly surprised if you've got a good set of tyres like i have "michelin PS4's " you'll be able to carry a frightening amount of speed into corners and the car stays pretty flat on the vwr setup. you'll lose grip some time after you've lost your lunchSounds like I need the vw racing kit then, thanks lads.
bonelorry has a build thread over at the mk6 section of the site so you can see how they look. I am considering this kit too; although i am really torn between that and blistien b8s with H&R springs.
OEM+ Dub's reference to the VWR spring + B8 damper combo feeling like a MK4 R32 is quite a good comparison. The R32 rides firmly without being harsh on decent surfaces, but over potholes and badly broken surfaces, it was too crashy for me (heavy 18s don't help) and partly why I sold the car. The OEM MK5 suspension is the same on the same surfaces though, but the benefit of OEM is more travel, so won't bottom out in the stops quite so easily.
The crashiness was at urban speeds. In common with other after market kits, things improve the faster you go though. The car feels way less 'jiggly', unsettled and fidgety on Bilsteins compared to OEM. It just feels properly keyed into the tarmac and super stable in the bends.
One thing I would say about the Bilsteins is their consistency of damping. The car feels the same in winter as it does summer. Some people may not notice the change in damping vs heat build up in the damper oil, but I did, and the B6/B8/B12 are simply superb dampers for consistency.
I would say the VWR full kit, or VWR springs + B8s would be more forgiving than B8s + HRs. The full VWR kit is probably not in the same league as the B8s under hard cornering and busy surfaces to damp, but is probably the best riding kit out there. And that's why I'm going VWR because 90% of my car's duties is commuting. I don't get many opportunities to hoon it, so ride is important.
Post by: Shoduchi on January 09, 2017, 01:21:51 pm
Sounds like I need the vw racing kit then, thanks lads.
bonelorry has a build thread over at the mk6 section of the site so you can see how they look. I am considering this kit too; although i am really torn between that and blistien b8s with H&R springs.
You'll have to decide how low you want your ride to be. :wink:
yip - i was really close to buying the full kit from awesome. However, I recently got new wheels with a 45 offset and figured the drop on H&R might be too much. But then i saw a build thread with the same spec wheels on H&R springs and think it looks really good. Now i have no clue! lol
I have those springs with Koni Sports dampers and 8''x18'' ET45 wheels. I like the stance and with the rest of the suspension upgrades it's good enough to enjoy track days without being too harsh for daily driving. :smiley:
Post by: pudding on January 09, 2017, 01:44:41 pm
i think you'll be pleasantly surprised if you've got a good set of tyres like i have "michelin PS4's " you'll be able to carry a frightening amount of speed into corners and the car stays pretty flat on the vwr setup. you'll lose grip some time after you've lost your lunchSounds like I need the vw racing kit then, thanks lads.
bonelorry has a build thread over at the mk6 section of the site so you can see how they look. I am considering this kit too; although i am really torn between that and blistien b8s with H&R springs.
OEM+ Dub's reference to the VWR spring + B8 damper combo feeling like a MK4 R32 is quite a good comparison. The R32 rides firmly without being harsh on decent surfaces, but over potholes and badly broken surfaces, it was too crashy for me (heavy 18s don't help) and partly why I sold the car. The OEM MK5 suspension is the same on the same surfaces though, but the benefit of OEM is more travel, so won't bottom out in the stops quite so easily.
The crashiness was at urban speeds. In common with other after market kits, things improve the faster you go though. The car feels way less 'jiggly', unsettled and fidgety on Bilsteins compared to OEM. It just feels properly keyed into the tarmac and super stable in the bends.
One thing I would say about the Bilsteins is their consistency of damping. The car feels the same in winter as it does summer. Some people may not notice the change in damping vs heat build up in the damper oil, but I did, and the B6/B8/B12 are simply superb dampers for consistency.
I would say the VWR full kit, or VWR springs + B8s would be more forgiving than B8s + HRs. The full VWR kit is probably not in the same league as the B8s under hard cornering and busy surfaces to damp, but is probably the best riding kit out there. And that's why I'm going VWR because 90% of my car's duties is commuting. I don't get many opportunities to hoon it, so ride is important.
Already running PS4s :happy2:
Rubbish life span with high power FWD, but super grippy!
Post by: CP-Performance on January 09, 2017, 07:22:02 pm
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Post by: Duffmeister on January 09, 2017, 09:10:03 pm
Post by: pudding on January 10, 2017, 09:07:56 am
Post by: xjay1337 on January 10, 2017, 06:00:25 pm
The problem with the sportline set was the rear dropped about 5mm but the front dropped 42mm nd it looked terrible.
I'm after a subtle drop, I think the vw racing spring as said above is 15-20 which is about right for me.
What I'd like to know is Eibach make the vw R springs and from what I've read are the same drop as the pro kit, are these the same spring painted blue or a completely different item?
Confusingly the pro kit isn't listed as a GTI kit for the UK but is everywhere else but if used on the gti drops 15-20mm arrrgggh!
Please help my golf looks like a special off road version after looking at members cars on here!
Were the springs the correct weighting for your car?
Were your "original springs" factory or already lowered.
Post by: sean.smithy94 on January 10, 2017, 10:46:15 pm
Post by: MIJ_JAGGER on January 11, 2017, 11:22:01 am
Where did you get those eibach springs from? As I'm looking for a set of lowering springs for my gtieBay pal
Post by: sean.smithy94 on January 11, 2017, 11:56:20 am
Post by: MIJ_JAGGER on January 11, 2017, 01:43:08 pm
If you google mk5 gti Eibach Sportlines you'll find loads of places selling them. Hope that helps
@sean.smithy94