Nice write up John_o (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi294.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm104%2Ftomashandmilly%2Fimages-4.jpg&hash=6d659e056ce8a90176c9cdfeac4a7d0beb20ac22)
nicee i want one :(
lol i do need a exhaust system though hmmm :P
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The only reason I fitted one was to protect my exhaust mounts but I can't tell any real difference in traction etc.
Anyone know of a step giude to fitting??
Received mine this morning :evilgrin:
This should help. It is for the Neuspeed one but still applies.
http://www.neuspeed.com/data/installs/22.10.91.pdf
Got mine fitted on sat, Very impressed tbh. Not getting any vibration at all and the car feels more solid when accelerating and changing gear.Hmm, I'm a little confused here as I thought that both were the same...
Im thinking of getting the torque arm insert now to match with the dog bone, has anyone else done this and has there been much benefit?
Dan
just give a bit of lube before fitting, makes it slide in easier :happy2:
Which one should I go for... the ECS one or the Neuspeed one.
Incidentally, Neuspeed list two different torque arm inserts (see link below)...anyone know what that is about?
http://www.neuspeed.com/products/product_list.asp?app=106|GV&type=23<ype=ns_euro
P.S. Gonna order one as soon as I get these queries resolved... and thanks for the installation guide.
P.P.S. Great article - thanks everyone!
Which one should I go for... the ECS one or the Neuspeed one.
Incidentally, Neuspeed list two different torque arm inserts (see link below)...anyone know what that is about?
http://www.neuspeed.com/products/product_list.asp?app=106|GV&type=23<ype=ns_euro
P.S. Gonna order one as soon as I get these queries resolved... and thanks for the installation guide.
P.P.S. Great article - thanks everyone!
I got told by Amd essex that they are identical apart from logo on washer :happy2:
need to pull my finger out !and put two fingers in :wink: :happy2:
Thanks for getting back stokeballon.
My car was bought in Sept 08. Is there any chance VW may have changed things so I would need to go for the 2009 one?
Or is that reserve for the new MK6 Golfs?
OK, I'm going for the ECS one... Being a bargain hunter where is the cheapest place to buy this "butt plug", oops, sorry torque insert.
Two totally different bushes.
http://www.neuspeed.com/products/product_details.asp?app=106|GV&type=23<ype=ns_euro&p_id=2047 (http://www.neuspeed.com/products/product_details.asp?app=106|GV&type=23<ype=ns_euro&p_id=2047)
The above is for 2009 and on cars. Looks to be a more substantial bush too!
http://www.neuspeed.com/products/product_details.asp?app=106|GV&type=23<ype=ns_euro&p_id=1962 (http://www.neuspeed.com/products/product_details.asp?app=106|GV&type=23<ype=ns_euro&p_id=1962)
The above is for cars up to 2008.
Which one should I go for... the ECS one or the Neuspeed one.
Incidentally, Neuspeed list two different torque arm inserts (see link below)...anyone know what that is about?
http://www.neuspeed.com/products/product_list.asp?app=106|GV&type=23<ype=ns_euro
P.S. Gonna order one as soon as I get these queries resolved... and thanks for the installation guide.
P.P.S. Great article - thanks everyone!
I got told by Amd essex that they are identical apart from logo on washer :happy2:
I was answering that question stokey boy :P
It's just that, rightly or wrongly, I have the impression that Awesome prices are on the steep side.Hi
In any case, I've ordered it from them...
Exchange rates are poo...Hi
But if it helps, Powerflex do one for £16.74 inc VAT - just buy a new bolt from the dealers. They're good enough for Milltek, as that's what they supply with the exhausts.
:happy2:
Mine's in having its post track day checks and apparently the ECS mount is royally f***ed.
I'll have some pics later, but at less than 5k/6 months old - it'll be being sent back for a refund. Lucky I had another to replace it.
:confused:
well i agree it hasnt held up well
BUT
the important 'finger' bits that fill in the voids on the OE mount look to be OK and therefore functioning ok ?
well i agree it hasnt held up well
BUT
the important 'finger' bits that fill in the voids on the OE mount look to be OK and therefore functioning ok ?
Agreed, but at only 6 months old, that's pretty bad. The disc holds the fingers and as soon as that's gone, the fingers will possibly come out of their void positions?
I'd be interested in seeing some older, higher mileage ones.
:surprised: That's not good!! I wonder if that shows the weaknesses in the ECS, or the extensive amount of movement between the transmission mount and the subframe....
i find it hard to believe it stretchs and, if it does "lock" only once..
il have them check mine on saturday :happy2:Hi Joe
coolio, see you on sat :smiley:No worries
Someone else would try and sell me all three wouldn't they!
How much is that VF mount Tony?? :smiley:
Where do I feel the vibration? In the the throttle pedal?
How much is that VF mount Tony?? :smiley:
£169 if you get it from Regal...
Where do I feel the vibration? In the the throttle pedal?
In the cabin.
Where do I feel the vibration? In the the throttle pedal?
In the cabin.
Yeah, kind of through the seat base, might make something loose rattle too - there's always a trade off, but I don't think it's really all that noticable.
Yes, they've offered a replacement, but as I've 2 in spare, I've asked for something else of similar value instead.... if that's not allowed though, I guess I'll just shift it on.if you do have to shift it on i will have it :wink:
^^^^Hi
Great post, Sarah :happy2: - Very informative and helpful :smiley:
^^^^Hi
Great post, Sarah :happy2: - Very informative and helpful :smiley:
Yes that was the information I recieved from ECS , within reason , yes I can understand it
OK when fitted and being used , but only used once.....
As Joe sadi , we checked his for him , and to be fair , with this being something that we have sold many of without issues so far , it kind of rings true to me too
Sarah
Hi^^^^Hi
Great post, Sarah :happy2: - Very informative and helpful :smiley:
Yes that was the information I recieved from ECS , within reason , yes I can understand it
OK when fitted and being used , but only used once.....
As Joe sadi , we checked his for him , and to be fair , with this being something that we have sold many of without issues so far , it kind of rings true to me too
Sarah
do yours come with bolts ?
Hi^^^^Hi
Great post, Sarah :happy2: - Very informative and helpful :smiley:
Yes that was the information I recieved from ECS , within reason , yes I can understand it
OK when fitted and being used , but only used once.....
As Joe sadi , we checked his for him , and to be fair , with this being something that we have sold many of without issues so far , it kind of rings true to me too
Sarah
do yours come with bolts ?
The ECS ones do yes
Sarah
Fancy doing a GB on themYou guys drive a hard bargain.....
:happy2:Hi^^^^Hi
Great post, Sarah :happy2: - Very informative and helpful :smiley:
Yes that was the information I recieved from ECS , within reason , yes I can understand it
OK when fitted and being used , but only used once.....
As Joe sadi , we checked his for him , and to be fair , with this being something that we have sold many of without issues so far , it kind of rings true to me too
Sarah
do yours come with bolts ?
The ECS ones do yes
Sarah
Hi Guys
This is the reply that we have had from ECS
The base that holds the fingers together is a bit flimsy, but serves very little function, other than to hold everything together. The large washer that covers that piece does a fine job of supporting it when in place. The fingers don't wear like the base of the mount does, after torquing the bolt and washer down against the base, it can get kind of smashed, which will make it more likely to tear upon removal. These mounts are extremely difficult to remove, and will most likely tear when taken out as they need to be pulled, pried and otherwise yanked to get them free. For this reason we consider them a "one-time use" item. Please inform your customers to avoid removing these to inspect them as they are likely to experience the same problem. There is no real reason to remove these unless they are being replaced (which wouldn't need done for quite some time), the rubber around the insert is softer than the insert itself, so the majority of the stress in the mount is going to be absorbed by the rubber. This isn't like a control arm bushing for example, which is attached only to metal components and therefore absorbs the majority of the stress at that connection.
I apologize if this is a bit long-winded, but I wanted to make sure to be thorough in my response.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Sarah
HiHi Guys
This is the reply that we have had from ECS
The base that holds the fingers together is a bit flimsy, but serves very little function, other than to hold everything together. The large washer that covers that piece does a fine job of supporting it when in place. The fingers don't wear like the base of the mount does, after torquing the bolt and washer down against the base, it can get kind of smashed, which will make it more likely to tear upon removal. These mounts are extremely difficult to remove, and will most likely tear when taken out as they need to be pulled, pried and otherwise yanked to get them free. For this reason we consider them a "one-time use" item. Please inform your customers to avoid removing these to inspect them as they are likely to experience the same problem. There is no real reason to remove these unless they are being replaced (which wouldn't need done for quite some time), the rubber around the insert is softer than the insert itself, so the majority of the stress in the mount is going to be absorbed by the rubber. This isn't like a control arm bushing for example, which is attached only to metal components and therefore absorbs the majority of the stress at that connection.
I apologize if this is a bit long-winded, but I wanted to make sure to be thorough in my response.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Sarah
Hi Sarah, I didn't realise you'd replied here, so I wasn't ignoring you!! I haven't checked my personal emails today either, as I know you'd copied me in. So, I'll check shortly and reply to ECS too.
For everyone else's benefit, my thoughts.
I see their point now on the disc not being of any benefit other than to hold the 'fingers' and, I'll call it the 'thumb', together - that's fine. But, as nobody was aware of this, they can understand why concerns were raised when the cover was removed and it was seen to be all smashed and ripped in situ.
Obviously they called me straight away and asked me what I wanted to do about it, and luckily I had the spare, so asked them to carefully remove it to see the extent of the damage. Then see what everyone else thought of it too? Thankfully they'd had the foresight to use proper poly lube, so it popped out fairly easily, as I'm sure you must have used too to enable you to inspect and replace Joes.
Maybe ECS should provide some proper lithium based lube with the kit too? I know they say to use some "grease" in their fitting guide, but the wrong interpretation of this could be leading to their necessity to "pull, pry and yank" them out, destroying them in the process? It'd be a shame for someone to waste their money on a "one-time use" bush if, for example, they decided to upgrade the dogbone mount a little while later down the line.
My advice for people thinking of one - if you're potentially going to have to destroy it, get the cheapest one you can find and see if you get the desired/claimed effect? The only difference is compound and price, and none of them eliminate wheel hop.
Hi^^^^Hi
Great post, Sarah :happy2: - Very informative and helpful :smiley:
Yes that was the information I recieved from ECS , within reason , yes I can understand it
OK when fitted and being used , but only used once.....
As Joe sadi , we checked his for him , and to be fair , with this being something that we have sold many of without issues so far , it kind of rings true to me too
Sarah
do yours come with bolts ?
The ECS ones do yes
Sarah
Is the general consensus on these still they are worth the money then?
Best place to get them? Awesome GTI?