MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on September 10, 2017, 07:48:37 pm
Hello all, thought it start a build thread on my GTI

I bought it from a police auction with no keys/history didnt even see it just pictures, when it turned up it was much much worse than the pictures made it out to be. The car has had a very hard life and OSR 1/4 was full of filler, paint all round was in very poor condition. So there was no point me putting it back on the road as a normal car!

This is how it was dropped off, xenons where so badly bodged iv never seen anything like it. Twisted wired, news paper holding the bulbs in place!
(https://i.imgur.com/VaK3M4N.jpg)

look at this beauty!
(https://i.imgur.com/U88wI0y.jpg)

So basically sold the interior and all the bits i didnt need, which actually returned a healthy sum!

Made a harness bar, it mounts to factory mounts at the back, didn't want to make anything to permanent as i will get a cage eventually.

(https://i.imgur.com/7ldNkJS.jpg)

Mounted my seat and harness

(https://i.imgur.com/g2tEl8S.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/quwoRg5.jpg)

Removed anything that wasn't needed anymore!

(https://i.imgur.com/P6hwD5E.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zge6OLw.jpg)

Had some metal laying around in the workshop, so made a X brace to bolt to the old seat belt points. Not structural what so ever but probably helps a tiny bit.

(https://i.imgur.com/dBxVfIL.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Laar8Yh.jpg)

My favourite mod so far, hole sawed the dash to fit mk1 VDO gauges!

(https://i.imgur.com/vl8bigI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/O2nwA29.jpg)

Oil temp sender from a mk2 16v mounted to a sump plug.

(https://i.imgur.com/lnBtt1y.jpg)

Wired up and working, pressure gauge also works now, had to use a remote pressure sender.
(https://i.imgur.com/YCKt4En.jpg)

Made a blank for the stereo.

(https://i.imgur.com/jmAsLPo.jpg)

Fitted a boost gauge

(https://i.imgur.com/p4Dkget.jpg)

BC coilovers fitted!
(https://i.imgur.com/Q9NEBW9.jpg)

Probably does nothing, but a bit of OE aero from an A3

(https://i.imgur.com/n7LLjYv.jpg)





Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on September 10, 2017, 08:19:37 pm
My first ever track day was awesome, car performed faultlessly.

(https://i.imgur.com/6efK86u.jpg)

Second track day at brands was going well until last 10 mins of session when i hit a patch of oil where a Clio blew its gearbox, i ran out of talent and kissed the wall.

look at the filler!
(https://i.imgur.com/2t3JS1g.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/677MkLg.jpg)

So now the annoying part, i replaced the rear 1/4 with a genuine one, the state of that panel was why it became a track car in the first place :rolleye: so now its a better car after the crash!

Running gear wise it only bent the hub :)

(https://i.imgur.com/KvCdJ0O.jpg)

£39 wing from euros  :signLOL: will eventually go wider at the front!
(https://i.imgur.com/Duva0TT.jpg)

New inner tub and 1/4 in place

(https://i.imgur.com/Mkdn2i9.jpg)

Got a bit carried away!

(https://i.imgur.com/spTKO5V.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rPvwMyR.jpg)

Friend lent me his body shop for the weekend, paints not perfect but Racecar!

(https://i.imgur.com/S0fKw2g.jpg)

Fitted back up

(https://i.imgur.com/Ip6xdQG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/g0raMq4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/do70qy3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/A3dLoRu.jpg)

Was back on track 3 weeks after the crash   :happy2:

My fastest lap was 58.01 which i was happy with  :happy2:





Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: Rigsby on September 10, 2017, 10:20:36 pm
Respect for getting in fixed so quick, looking good.
Did you get the wings from Euro car parts? What's the fit like?
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: Paradox1 on September 11, 2017, 12:14:16 pm
Nice build,

What tyres are you running? they look like semi slicks
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: Rigsby on September 11, 2017, 02:53:26 pm
Nanking ns2r
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on September 11, 2017, 02:58:56 pm
Nanking ns2r

Indeed your're correct.

The wing is ok, not very well made but after a little bit of fettling it was alright. I'd go genuine though if i was you, only reason i used it was because i want wider front eventually.


Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: Paradox1 on September 11, 2017, 04:50:57 pm
How do you find the tyres? Im thinkin the nankangs or federal 595 for both road and track
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: FJ1000 on September 11, 2017, 05:25:59 pm
Nice!! Looks a great project.

Out of interest, did you weigh the stuff coming out of the car, or have an idea how much the car weighs now?

What else do you have planned? I'm sure a map and brake upgrade would pay big dividends on track.


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Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: FJ1000 on September 11, 2017, 05:31:18 pm
How do you find the tyres? Im thinkin the nankangs or federal 595 for both road and track

I've got NS2R's on my track TT and I'll warn you now - they're horrible in the wet! Even with haldex. Ended up buying another set of wheels to mount some continental sport contact 5's onto (which are excellent in the rain) as a "wet" setup.

Excellent in the dry though, as are the federals. Very grippy on a dry track.


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Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on September 11, 2017, 06:20:50 pm
Nice!! Looks a great project.

Out of interest, did you weigh the stuff coming out of the car, or have an idea how much the car weighs now?

What else do you have planned? I'm sure a map and brake upgrade would pay big dividends on track.


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 :happy2: I should of weighed everything, there was so much. I even unpicked all the redundant wiring, so the only wires left going to the back are for lights and demister. Door control modules are gone, hard wired the motors in with a basic switch on each door, so only 2 wires in each door. Anything to do with airbags are gone, bottom of the dash is all cut out. Spot weld drilled any bracket that are no longer needed, complete AC setup gone, Every trace of sound deading gone.

Not much more left i can get rid of! unless i start hole sawing things!  :signLOL:
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on September 11, 2017, 06:23:16 pm
How do you find the tyres? Im thinkin the nankangs or federal 595 for both road and track

Love them, but i haven't tried any other semi slicks to compare them against.

My friend runs them on his daily GTI, im sure come winter they will get hairy though.
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: Paradox1 on September 12, 2017, 09:34:00 am
How do you find the tyres? Im thinkin the nankangs or federal 595 for both road and track

Love them, but i haven't tried any other semi slicks to compare them against.

My friend runs them on his daily GTI, im sure come winter they will get hairy though.

Thanks fore the feedback.
Yeah I can understand a semi slick wouldnt be great in the rain but then again I try not to drive lively in the rain for obvious reasons.
Currently on goodyear egale f1 which seem decent for a road tyre
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: Octoparrot on September 12, 2017, 12:44:38 pm
Interesting read and nice work, just curious as to why you didn't mount the gauges in the radio blanking panel?
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: GTIEagles on September 12, 2017, 02:08:02 pm
Great work, could extra weight be saved by removing the dashboard too? Or are the electrics too reliant on that being there?
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on September 12, 2017, 07:49:41 pm
Interesting read and nice work, just curious as to why you didn't mount the gauges in the radio blanking panel?

Originaly i was going to mount a tablet there via OBD link, but i found it slow and annoying as it had a second or so delay.

You can clearly see them from my seat anyway :)
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on September 12, 2017, 07:53:45 pm
Great work, could extra weight be saved by removing the dashboard too? Or are the electrics too reliant on that being there?

Eventually i will go down this route i think, remove as much from behind at least as possible, i'll decide after my cage is fitted.
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on September 12, 2017, 09:09:50 pm
Had to make a false floor after removing my carpet.

(https://i.imgur.com/kFBUaZG.jpg)

Another shot of the blank

(https://i.imgur.com/HCPPnnm.jpg)

Interior brackets removed

(https://i.imgur.com/CDVFWcd.jpg)

Brake cooling ducts, Couldn't use the fog light holes as the OS boost pipe gets in the way

(https://i.imgur.com/rFlGpuq.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/MmAnUdf.png)

Door strap
Crap pic :(
(https://i.imgur.com/PEieIkT.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/AyWwU3K.jpg)

Bimarco seat.

I would highly recommend these, they are very well made and supportive!

(https://i.imgur.com/Jz23ncV.jpg)
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: pudding on September 13, 2017, 04:37:22 pm
Love the old school VDO gauges and the ingenious sump plug sensor mod  :happy2:

Get it on a weighbridge see how much weight it's lost  :laugh:     I think the Atkins diet can shed some more pounds.  Who needs a dashboard!

Bin off the window motors and glass and stick some polycarbonate panels in the doors  :grin:
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: MIJ_JAGGER on September 13, 2017, 04:44:51 pm
Air freshener still dangling on the mirror is the best

Nice work matey
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on September 14, 2017, 08:31:26 pm
Love the old school VDO gauges and the ingenious sump plug sensor mod  :happy2:

Get it on a weighbridge see how much weight it's lost  :laugh:     I think the Atkins diet can shed some more pounds.  Who needs a dashboard!

Bin off the window motors and glass and stick some polycarbonate panels in the doors  :grin:

Still couple of bits that it get loose :)

Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on September 14, 2017, 08:32:00 pm
Air freshener still dangling on the mirror is the best

Nice work matey


Hahah  :innocent:
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on September 14, 2017, 08:38:24 pm
Is there poly carbonate windows off the shelf for mk5s?
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: Hxrry96 on September 15, 2017, 11:14:20 am
This car looks absolutely cracking mate, love the effort you've put into it! When you start with a rough 'un, the best thing to do is track it ahaha!n  :grin:
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on September 15, 2017, 07:47:32 pm
This car looks absolutely cracking mate, love the effort you've put into it! When you start with a rough 'un, the best thing to do is track it ahaha!n  :grin:

Its getting better with age  :grin:
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on September 24, 2017, 05:52:51 pm
Done some more to the slag over the weekend, got Brands booked in a couple of weeks.

I knew the front bushes were non genuine and was waiting to save some cash so i could upgrade to VWR gear, But that will have to wait for another time.

Instead i got hold of some alloy arms and changed the bushes to powerflex, camber adjustable and better caster angle.

Shagged bush

(https://i.imgur.com/8Tbxjbe.jpg)

Alloy arms and new bushes

(https://i.imgur.com/UwDTT2f.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mov3b3J.jpg)

The car was twitchy under heavy braking, found this on the rear trailing arm

(https://i.imgur.com/rDuT6tA.jpg)

Passat/S3 hubs
(https://i.imgur.com/BFfaFCy.jpg)

With new running gear i'm sure she will hug the road better now!

Last time i was out on track i smelt burning and plums of smoke out the back, the downpipe got so hot it melted the inner cv boot which sprayed its contents on the exhaust!

It was missing its heat shield, so new boot and shield!

(https://i.imgur.com/v3gJvxQ.jpg)

New GoPro mounting area  :signLOL:

(https://i.imgur.com/1c8B4Kv.jpg)

That's is for now, this build will slow down now as my Audi 80 restoration comes back from the body shop next month, 80 take priority

(https://i.imgur.com/lUZGBs2.jpg)

Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on October 07, 2017, 02:29:11 pm
So managed a 56.84 lap of the Brand Indy circuit on wednesday, 175 laps and the car didnt miss a beat!

(https://i.imgur.com/dqlDjZa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4UryIK5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aQ9eUU9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/djOHskY.jpg)
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: Rigsby on October 07, 2017, 08:26:03 pm
Looking good on track!
Do you know the part number for heat shield and bolts?
I noticed mine is missing when fitting my downpipe
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on October 08, 2017, 09:13:01 am
Looking good on track!
Do you know the part number for heat shield and bolts?
I noticed mine is missing when fitting my downpipe

 :happy2:

I'll try get the pn for you
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: L33 on October 11, 2017, 01:48:00 am
Wow you have spent some time on this write up pal.

I can second the weight saving. The difference between my daily gti and this one is noticeable.

And the NS2Rs in the wet....... :driver:
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on October 11, 2017, 08:19:03 pm
Wow you have spent some time on this write up pal.

I can second the weight saving. The difference between my daily gti and this one is noticeable.

And the NS2Rs in the wet....... :driver:


Bet you wont buy a track car lee!
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: L33 on October 12, 2017, 03:41:24 am
Hahaha my daily doubles up as a track hack. Give me one of your mk2’s.
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: pudding on October 13, 2017, 03:28:53 pm
Passat/S3 hubs
(https://i.imgur.com/BFfaFCy.jpg)

The damper hasn't hit full insertion into the hub.  Did you clean out all the corrosion first?  The alloy ones crust up really badly in the damper hole.

Also looks like you've used the tie rod nuts off the steel wishbones?   You need to fit Passat ones asap or the steel inserts will pull through.
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on October 14, 2017, 07:46:54 am
Thanks for the concern, they are BC racing coilovers and have a lip on top which is butted against the hub, Don't worry all seated correctly. The nuts a Passat specific, you can see the big flanged nut  :happy2:
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on October 18, 2017, 09:16:01 pm
Changed the rear setup with camber arms so i can get some proper camber on the back now

(https://i.imgur.com/8hAqXFW.jpg)

Added some aero from A3

(https://i.imgur.com/urstRSI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/aNgrsvf.jpg)

Front pads lasted 4 sessions of Brands, they did not fade once. Really did take a beating though!

(https://i.imgur.com/JaPzmSK.jpg)
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: Stig_gti on October 18, 2017, 10:52:04 pm
What break setup you running
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on October 19, 2017, 02:59:01 pm
What break setup you running

Standard size bremo drilled discs with ds2500 pads
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: pudding on October 26, 2017, 04:48:32 pm
Thanks for the concern, they are BC racing coilovers and have a lip on top which is butted against the hub, Don't worry all seated correctly. The nuts a Passat specific, you can see the big flanged nut  :happy2:

Good stuff  :happy2:

Liking the under plastics from the A3, nice touch!
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: Paradox1 on October 27, 2017, 10:53:52 am
You got a PN for the Aero kit?
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: Simon_2.0t on October 27, 2017, 01:55:01 pm
Great thread mate. Recognize some of the units in the pics, you local to Crawley?

Si
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on October 28, 2017, 04:54:13 pm
Great thread mate. Recognize some of the units in the pics, you local to Crawley?

Si






 :scared1:

Poundhill  :love:







Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: vag on January 15, 2018, 10:02:34 pm
Thought i'd update the thread with pictures from the last track day

(https://i.imgur.com/2hSpc92.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zgazbOf.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/D9q1y42.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/BNpVUns.jpg)

Managed to do 184 laps of the indy circuit, the car did not miss a beat, I was shattered by the end of the day.

I'm looking for 17s now as i reckon the car will handle better and i want to get her lower. 
Title: Re: MK5 GTI track Slag
Post by: teo_parvu on January 16, 2018, 06:11:27 am
Nice pictures! For sure running on 17" would be better for traction and tyre costs, but at some point you will need bigger brakes and you cannot fit a good BBK under 17". I'm tracking mine with a 6pot AP Racing kit and custom brake ducts, I still have some brake cooling issues on full slicks.