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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #570 on: April 05, 2016, 05:59:40 pm »
The scan looks positive and you know why you have the faults - you'll have to fix those issues to get better running at idle and check for air leaks cause they cause some interesting issues at idle.
Do you have the airbox/engine cover fitted?

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #571 on: April 05, 2016, 06:12:11 pm »
Yeah I do have the engine cover on in that video. I did a few times with and without just to test. I think you can hear the noise best in that video but il upload another with the bonnet open. Before, the engine shook but not enough to shake the whole car.

Im wondering whether to reverse it out the garage and drive a little?

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #572 on: April 05, 2016, 06:22:12 pm »
Yeah I do have the engine cover on in that video. I did a few times with and without just to test. I think you can hear the noise best in that video but il upload another with the bonnet open. Before, the engine shook but not enough to shake the whole car.

Im wondering whether to reverse it out the garage and drive a little?
If there's no oil leaks just move it out of the garage to see if it cuts out at idle - then do the standard full lock left / full lock right and straight ahead whilst moving slowly to cancel various warning lights - leave running and rescan the vehicle cancel all DTCs and post that scan up.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #573 on: April 05, 2016, 07:22:53 pm »
Where could I look for air leaks?

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #574 on: April 05, 2016, 07:31:20 pm »
Where could I look for air leaks?

That action is after you've got the system rebuilt as it should be and your scan shows a more expected set of results but any leaks will normally only be in the areas you've disturbed.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #575 on: April 05, 2016, 07:40:56 pm »
Ok so replace the n205 valve before that? Anyone done this? Do you have to remove the cam chain cover?

The maf fault will go with the cover on.

Not sure what the battery fault is, perhaps since it was disconnected its thrown the fault.

Will drive it out the garage slowly and re scan and post back.

Perhaps I should do the pvc.test with the dipstick?
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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #576 on: April 05, 2016, 07:50:59 pm »
The N205 valve is held in place with two small torx bolts (T8) if I remember nice simple job compared to your normal challenges Pesky.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #577 on: April 05, 2016, 09:00:03 pm »
Just took it out for a slow drive.

sounds terrible! I think its still smoking a little bit as well because it smells like burning.

I rescanned it - here's the fault codes. I also logged misfires and it was missfiring so much! See this little log

Tuesday,05,April,2016,20:42:29:32264
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3
Data version: 20120401



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20:42:15
  57   Misfire Sum Counter


ignore the MAF fault  :ashamed: forgot to reconnect it

Tuesday,05,April,2016,20:40:57:32264
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3
Data version: 20120401



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Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ5W221234   Mileage: 176430km/109628miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 A    HW: 1K0 907 115 A
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI G00 0070 
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E1710698
   Coding: 040300031C070160
   Shop #: WSC 00096 210 88179
   VCID: 244DF249E7C0DE9

3 Faults Found:
005634 - Power Supply Terminal 30
               P1602 - 002 - Voltage too Low - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: -40.0°C
                    Temperature: -40.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 0.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 0.000 V

005425 - Camshaft Timing Adjustment
               P1531 - 004 - Open Circuit - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 194 /min
                    Load: 71.7 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 11.0°C
                    Temperature: 12.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 10.414 V

000256 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70)
               P0100 - 004 - Supply Voltage - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 28.0°C
                    Temperature: 25.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 11.811 V

Readiness: 0110 0100

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-300-0xx.lbl
   Part No SW: 02E 300 042 Q    HW: 02E 927 770 AD
   Component: GSG DSG         070 0925 
   Revision: 00007000    Serial number: 00000505090160
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
   VCID: 2143FB5DF8D2CB1

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0104 
   Coding: 0004738
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3A712C317544B89

2 Faults Found:
01276 - ABS Hydraulic Pump (V64)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 044 AG
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 066 0505 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6CDDDA694F90D69

2 Faults Found:
01810 - Actuating Motor for Temperature Flap; Right (V159)
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71)
            000 -  -

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 AB    HW: 3C8 937 049 AB
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H57 3204 
   Revision: 00H57000    Serial number: 00000003205826
   Coding: E58F8F2700041500471400001400000000087F075C000100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00096 210 71415
   VCID: 71E3CB1D68B23B1

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW350  012  0401 
   Coding: 00065493
   Shop #: WSC 00096 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 M  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RegenLichtSens 005  0605 
   Coding: 00218142
   Shop #: WSC 00096 

1 Fault Found:
02403 - Terminal 15 for Interior
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 154
                    Mileage: 171528 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 11.80 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 1T0-919-887.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 919 887 D
   Component:      Navigation     0421 
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 438F51D5028EF91

1 Fault Found:
02731 - CD Reading Error
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 E
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0168 
   Coding: 0000052
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 30650E19A338729

1 Fault Found:
00104 - Fuel Tank Lid Unlock Button (E319)
            007 - Short

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 E
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0172 
   Coding: 0000052
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 31630B1DA8327B1

1 Fault Found:
00944 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Passenger Side (Z5)
            012 - Electrical
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 C
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 06 0217 
   Coding: 0000016
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 30650E19A338729

1 Fault Found:
00934 - Electric Window Motor; Rear Left (V26)
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent

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« Last Edit: April 05, 2016, 11:11:27 pm by Peskyjones »

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #578 on: April 05, 2016, 09:20:30 pm »
Well there's a bit improvement.

Can you check the fuse box in the engine bay (next to the battery) for bad connection to the fuse-able links since you've been working in that area.
As for the running what temperature have you on the gauge?

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #579 on: April 05, 2016, 09:31:01 pm »
Sorry @doylebros  what do you mean by improvement, seems like the oppsite haha smokey smell and misfires + sounds very unhealthy  :signLOL:. The whole car shakes badly on idle.

I havnt checked the temp on vcds but I glanced at the coolant gauge before turning it off and it was around seventy.

Ill order a n205 valve tomorrow then..hopefully this improves the idling.

What do you mean fuseable links? Just check wll the fuses are in properley.

I checked all the pvc hoses, front and rear and they're all seated properley

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #580 on: April 05, 2016, 09:42:47 pm »
Next to the battery there's a box with a lid you can remove with two slider clips -  in there are fuses but at the front are fuseable links are any of those corroded or lose?

The electrical warnings puzzle me (terminal 30 & the ABS) would be nice to remove those two so if you go into the individual modules and check the fault codes and clear them in there.

I've had some serious rough running caused by simple air leaks so let's not lose heart just yet.


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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #581 on: April 05, 2016, 09:46:46 pm »
Il check them. I removed and replaced the fuel pump relay and another fuse I thought it could have been. I think I replaced them properly though. The abs fault didnt come up when I first scanned it a while back, strange.

Hmm ok well ill replace the n205 and go from there. Could air leaks lead to misfires?

Theres also definitely an oil leak from the vaccum pump cover on to the gearbox. Ill have to replace the gasket for this as well I think.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #582 on: April 05, 2016, 09:55:05 pm »
Il check them. I removed and replaced the fuel pump relay and another fuse I thought it could have been. I think I replaced them properly though. The abs fault didnt come up when I first scanned it a while back, strange.

Hmm ok well ill replace the n205 and go from there. Could air leaks lead to misfires?

Theres also definitely an oil leak from the vaccum pump cover on to the gearbox. Ill have to replace the gasket for this as well I think.
That's more like the lion we know - fix the faults you know and report back - you didn't disconnect the alternator connections did you?

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #583 on: April 05, 2016, 10:16:01 pm »
Er no I dont think so, but I dont know what they are!

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #584 on: April 05, 2016, 11:23:13 pm »
So I'm ordering the following tomorrow

Vacuum pump seal 06D145117A
Item two here. Hopefully that stops the leak on the gearbox.
http://partscatalog.info/volkswagen/en/?i=cat_vag_models&brand=vw&number=1714&set=1731&ein=2008&f=625&hauptgr=1234567890&hg=1&grf=014504651&bf=14510&hgug=145&ug=45&parent_id=2852547

Timing chain cover gasket 06D103121B
Item 17 here
http://partscatalog.info/volkswagen/en/?i=cat_vag_models&brand=vw&number=1714&set=1731&ein=2008&f=625&hauptgr=1234567890&hg=1&grf=010355420&bf=10355&hgug=103&ug=03&parent_id=2847675

N2505 valve 06F109257C
Item (26) here
http://partscatalog.info/volkswagen/en/?i=cat_vag_models&brand=vw&number=1714&set=1731&ein=2008&f=625&hauptgr=1234567890&hg=1&grf=010355420&bf=10355&hgug=103&ug=03&parent_id=2847675

That's what I know is broken so fix that first. I'm worried the noise or misfiring could be something like the timings out or crankshaft bearings damaged or something major. I've thought about all the places I've been in the engine and can't think of anywhere that would cause the rough idle :thinking: