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garethmk1:
--- Quote from: SO8 on January 06, 2009, 11:08:42 pm ---
Gareth,
Having recently uploaded the 'new' Superchips Ed 30 DSG map (which is now apparently equal in characteristics to the manual one) I kind of know what you mean.
My new map took 100 or so miles to settle down and the car did seem very uncomfortable to begin with.
I have had one day of dry warmer weather since loading the map and if it wasn't for that I would think the car couldn't cope at all with it ! The dry day was great and the car flew .... getting most of the power down. Since then, though, it has been a nightmare with the cold weather making it seem like the car just can't handle the power. I am going to hold out for good weather before deciding 100% either way.....
At the moment the first 2 gears are useless without alot of care and 3rd is still quite interesting !
SC have emailed me have the original uprated map I had before the new one so if I choose I can put that back on the car until the weather gets better. That was less aggressive low down but still effectively produced the same peak power (my graphs are shown in this thread previously). Time will tell. I think probably the weather is, as others have said, the main problem.
You could ask SC if they have a lower torque option like the old DSG map ? That felt like a bit more than standard up to about 4K then if flew.
FWIW once settled I have found the newer map the smoothest of the two I have had, and still OK low down. It may just be with the extra power once the boost comes in fully that even more low down seems like less .... perhaps ?
I do think a bit of dry weather will see me grinning stupidly .... the remap makes the car seem soooo quick it almost feels like it should break ! It is interesting when you consider that SC remap is considered more 'conservative' and 'cautious' with 'less power' than say REVO OR GIAC. Those were words used by two other tuners on the phone to me .... they are not my own.
Just my views FWIW
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You have hit the nail firmly on the head - exactly the point, the fact that the first 3 gears are more or less redundant, like the car can't cope with it - all these things have crossed my mind as well. THat is exactly how I feel. All others thank you for your respective inputs. The tyres are due for changeing soon, at the moment (thanks to VW Maintainence Plan) I have Bridgestone's on the front which are near the legal limit and Conti's on the back which are as new. Could very well be a tyre issue. At the moment it is -8 deg C outside, the gritters have been around a million times turning the road into a surface so greasy it is comparable to a doner kebab. Maybe the ECU needs some time to settle with the new map also and hopefully it will tame power delivery a tad.
I actually spoke to superchips today and they confirmed that due to complaints made by ED30 / GTi owners, a new manual transmission map will be available for download within the next month or two which will limit torque in 1st & 2nd gears comparable to he mods made to the DSG map.
I also appreciate Hurdy's comments about chasing the weakest link and other posts by RR about the slippery path ! I don't want to change engine mounts, suspension compontents etc etc (with the exception of breaks - which will be modified), I just wanted a standard daily driver ED30 with a bit more grunt - but I suppose one cannot have it all ways !!
It was just that the ED30 was such a fun, predictable car that could be driven with real pace extremly enthusiastically with 230 bhp and it now feels like a nevours, twitchy schitzopherenic handful at best - I just hope that dry weather will change my mind :happy2:
Thanks to all again
Gareth
GTIjames:
benefit of the bluefin mate, you can just take it off during these conditions if it is not beneficial and come spring remap again
:drinking:
SO8:
--- Quote from: GTIjames on January 06, 2009, 11:31:14 pm ---benefit of the bluefin mate, you can just take it off during these conditions if it is not beneficial and come spring remap again
:drinking:
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I've kind of done that ... I have reverted to the 'original' SC remap for the DSG. I reloaded it on this morning so still have nearly 300bhp ... but with the lower torque map. I immediately loaded the newest map back into the BF ready for better weather :evilgrin:
The older SC map is soooooo much slower than the newest one - when you drive them back to back it really is an eye opener ! That said, the older of their uprated maps is still much quicker than standard but much more suited to the current climate.
I had little problem getting all the power down in 2nd upwards which made for a more relaxing drive. It does feel gutless in 4th onwards though - the extra torque and power of the newer map really does come into it's own on the motorway and it obviously hadn't taken me long to get used to having it!
It is great being able to choose between standard (though I can't see me going there except for servicing) uprated (low torque) and uprated (high torque). :laugh:
Greeners:
Gareth, the lower 'dogbone' engine mount may help without causing extra vibration :happy2: A cheap and effective mod.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=393.0
beppe:
I well and truelly jumped on this bandwagon today and ordered myself a blue fin!
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