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Sunglasses Ron:
I change mine even earlier than that 1st to 2nd as the torque in the mid range combined with the smooth quick change from the DSG makes mine feel like got one long first gear... But woudn't do it with standard map..
Changing at 5500rpm from 1st to 2nd should be ok mate, but after that I would just leave the box to change for you at 6500rpm (or 6250 as it is in real money :wink:)..
Only my opinion mate, but I serious think you'd be slower if you change at 5500rpm on everychange. But could be wrong, try it? :laugh:
Phil Mcavity:
will do ben. cheers for the coaching oh ob1 :wink:
Sunglasses Ron:
--- Quote from: Phil Mcavity on January 18, 2009, 09:19:45 pm ---will do ben. cheers for the coaching oh ob1 :wink:
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No worries mate.. Just remember if Joe is ahead of you from the start... "USE THE FORCE" :jumpmove:
Sunglasses Ron:
--- Quote from: Phil Mcavity on January 18, 2009, 08:49:44 pm ---What Rev range should i be revving to Ben??, 1st gear i thought best to shift early to stop and wheel hop, the build up from that?
Joes more likely to light up the front wheels with alot more torque, so shifting at 5500rpm, to 2nd would be back to 3800 app, which is still at peak output for the k04?
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Just had a butchers at your RR graph Phil..
You car is making power (as a KO4 should) to near enough 6000rpm, so if the DSG shifts at 6250rpm, it should drop you right in the sweet spot of around 4700rpm (where all your power is).. If you changed at 5500rpm, not only would you be shifting before peak power, but it would drop you at the wrong side of 4000-4500rpm IMO..
But as I said, could quite easily be proved wrong..
SteveP:
Last Friday morning myself and Nath (Greenouse) after getting my car out of the dealers on day release, took a trip down to Superchips HQ in Buckingham for a bit of a shakedown session and to check things out for a possible Rolling Road day down there later on in the year.
It was also a good oportunity to campare two ED30's (one of each gearbox flavor) with very similar mods, these being: -
SteveP (Steel Grey 5 Door - 24K Miles) -
DSG
Superchips Stage 2 Map
Non-Res Turbo Back Milltek
"Carbonio" Style CAI
ITG Panel Filter
Greenouse (DBP 3 Door - 5K Miles) -
Manual
Superchips Stage 2 Map
Non-Res Turbo Back Milltek
"Carbonio" Style CAI
K&N Panel Filter
Firstly here's a couple of vid's of the wheels in action on the rollers: -
And some pic's of the cars of the rollers: -
On one of the final runs the car was slipping on the rollers near the top of end of the 5th gear so Jamie tried to hold it down a bit :scared:
That didn't work so Nath had to act as ballast: -
The rollers where literally smoking by the end of the session :rolleye:
The outcome of comparing the cars back to back wasn't a surprise in that the DSG box on mine forcing the change was limiting the peak BHP over the manual on Greenouse's.
But overlaying the graph's on the plasma above the Mah Hah LPS3000 4WD Rollers they use showed the curves where very similar but with a lot more top end on the manual and a slightly better peak torque from the DSG.
They also completed some checks on the fueling and ignition timing and found everything to be running well on both cars.
So here are the graphs: -
So some very big BHP numbers seen from Greenouse's, which did surprise them but as he had previous seen 324BHP on a Dyno Dynamics rollers at Weston Motorsport we are overly surprised to see more on these roller.
Mine was a little down on the BHP over the last run I had there just before Xmas but my car hadn't been used properly for two weeks before this so I wasn't too concerned.
But like all things these are just lottery numbers and I believe I can speak for both of us when saying we are both very happy with the way our cars perform, and are looking forward to the Santa Pod shootout :driver:
They also tried out a new updated version of the revised 1st and 2nd Gear throttle response map on Greenouse's car but where not happy with the results so will be doing some more work on this before offering this on general release. This is in response to customer feedback about the current version being abit of a handful in 1st and 2nd gears. I may be going back to help with this is in near future
So a big thanks to Jamie and Dave @ Superchips for taking time to complete the power runs and to explaining all of the dyno output to us. :happy2:
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