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*** All your bluefin/superchips questions and answers in here please.
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: 182_blue on December 24, 2008, 11:18:51 am ---S word ?, oh also do you work on VW Racing cars ?
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....They do.
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: Superchips on December 24, 2008, 10:13:59 am ---Up until recently we had a different remap for ED30 with DSG gearboxes. This was primarily not to protect the gearbox but to avoid the torque limit which would ultimately limit top end power also. We have now altered this limit so we can run the same power and torque on manual and DSG cars.
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....Jamie - Am I right in thinking that it's high levels of torque rather than bhp which potentially can damage/overstress the DSG box of tricks?
Please do understand that in asking this question I'm not trying to shoot down what Superchips do but I am just genuinely curious and concerned as my car is DSG (Revo'd but I agree wholeheartedly that both Revo and SC are as good as each other in their current forms).
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GTIjames:
didn't stevep get to get to have a go on the racingline (aka vwr) golf while at superchips.... or was it just there by some coincidence.
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: GTIjames on December 24, 2008, 03:46:21 pm ---didn't stevep get to get to have a go on the racingline (aka vwr) golf while at superchips.... or was it just there by some coincidence.
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....He did - Further proof if any is needed. VWR's cars are regularly at Superchips for whatever mapping they feel appropriate.
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: RedRobin on December 24, 2008, 03:04:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: Superchips on December 24, 2008, 10:13:59 am ---Up until recently we had a different remap for ED30 with DSG gearboxes. This was primarily not to protect the gearbox but to avoid the torque limit which would ultimately limit top end power also. We have now altered this limit so we can run the same power and torque on manual and DSG cars.
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....Jamie - Am I right in thinking that it's high levels of torque rather than bhp which potentially can damage/overstress the DSG box of tricks?
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^^^^
In answer to my question about the potential for overstressing the DSG with too much torque, Jamie tells me : -
"We have done extensive testing on race sprung slick tyred track cars and the DSG does not go bang at the "rated" 350Nm, we have had over 440Nm on the Dyno but that just spins like crazy on the road. The track cars (made by VWR) are regularly driven hard and it is on this basis we have decided to up our game and offer higher torque. It can be hard to power test a DSG as full load=kickdown and that makes a mess of a power curve. We are comparing a manual and DSG on the dyno in January and also comparing drivability as the drive is very different, DSG=kickdown, shift- go. Manual=wheelspin into the rev limit."
I hope this helps anyone else interested in the answer to my question.
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