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Craig Stanley:
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--- Quote from: Craig Stanley on June 30, 2016, 05:24:04 am ---The whole Brexit attitude that gets to me is the whole "we're alright John and sod the rest of you". As a rich nation shouldn't we be helping to lead the world to a better place for all. The countries that need help are only looking to have an equal way of life as ourselves. Is that not fair.
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That's called communism and it's never worked.
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I call it compassion for and wanting to help my fellow humans mate whatever colour, race or nationality.
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dansmith180:
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--- Quote from: dansmith180 on June 30, 2016, 07:59:10 am ---
--- Quote from: Craig Stanley on June 30, 2016, 05:24:04 am ---The whole Brexit attitude that gets to me is the whole "we're alright John and sod the rest of you". As a rich nation shouldn't we be helping to lead the world to a better place for all. The countries that need help are only looking to have an equal way of life as ourselves. Is that not fair.
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That's called communism and it's never worked.
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I call it compassion for and wanting to help my fellow humans mate whatever colour, race or nationality.
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That's a very nice, romantic and idealistic way of looking at things. Maybe I'm just a pessimistic knob but I don't see that the world works like that.
I'm all for helping out fellow man and colour/ race/ religion doesn't really matter to me but you can't bankrupt yourself trying to save everyone when they don't always seem to be helping themselves.
Also if the people in control of the EU were focused on that rather than trying to tell everyone what they should do the world would be a better place.
Craig Stanley:
--- Quote from: dansmith180 on June 30, 2016, 09:23:39 am ---
--- Quote from: Craig Stanley on June 30, 2016, 08:18:04 am ---
--- Quote from: dansmith180 on June 30, 2016, 07:59:10 am ---
--- Quote from: Craig Stanley on June 30, 2016, 05:24:04 am ---The whole Brexit attitude that gets to me is the whole "we're alright John and sod the rest of you". As a rich nation shouldn't we be helping to lead the world to a better place for all. The countries that need help are only looking to have an equal way of life as ourselves. Is that not fair.
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That's called communism and it's never worked.
--- End quote ---
I call it compassion for and wanting to help my fellow humans mate whatever colour, race or nationality.
Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk
--- End quote ---
That's a very nice, romantic and idealistic way of looking at things. Maybe I'm just a pessimistic knob but I don't see that the world works like that.
I'm all for helping out fellow man and colour/ race/ religion doesn't really matter to me but you can't bankrupt yourself trying to save everyone when they don't always seem to be helping themselves.
Also if the people in control of the EU were focused on that rather than trying to tell everyone what they should do the world would be a better place.
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FJ1000:
There is an outside possibility that nothing at all happens about us leaving the EU.
- The referendum is not legally binding. There is form in Europe for not following through a referendum result...
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- Boris has himself in the past said a "no" referendum was the best way to go into EU negotiations, win some real concessions, and then put a revised deal to the UK as a second referendum. He did do a U-turn on this later though; "out is out". But he lies, so who knows what he's plotting. And he might not be in charge.
- There's talk about forcing the decision through a parliamentary vote, at which point it would be voted down. This maneuver is being called a "reverse maastricht." Sounds like a WWE move!
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2016/jun/06/reverse-maastricht-legal-politically-feasible-eu-referendum-brexit
- There's a chance of an early general election, sometime next year. The Lib Dems have said they will campaign on the basis of keeping the UK in the EU. Now, they're not going to win, but makes you wonder what labour will do, and what happens if they end up with a remainer leading labour and in coalition with Lib Dem.
Basically, all kinds of scenarios could play out!
All of this has got me wondering about picking up a small amount of UK banks or home builders shares. Barratt and RBS for example 30% lower on the month; fair if we do exit, but could look very cheap in a couple of years if it turns out we stay in. But then again, just the uncertainty if it continues for an extended period of time damages the profitability of these companies; a 5% fall in home sales and 5% off prices takes 33% off the profit of the average UK homebuilder!
Craig Stanley:
Boris bottled it then.lol
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