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Craig Stanley:
--- Quote from: dansmith180 on July 01, 2016, 12:35:34 am ---
--- Quote from: Juliand on June 30, 2016, 10:43:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: dansmith180 on June 30, 2016, 09:23:39 am ---
I'm all for helping out fellow man and colour/ race/ religion doesn't really matter to me but you can't bankrupt yourself trying to save everyone when they don't always seem to be helping themselves.
Also if the people in control of the EU were focused on that rather than trying to tell everyone what they should do the world would be a better place.
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At what point was our contribution to the EU bankrupting the UK?
Compare the UK's financial contribution to the EU in 2015 at £8.5 Billion net (after what we get back) against the loss to UK companies following the 'out' decision of over £120 Billion, and the biggest drop in Sterling in over 30 years? Which was the biggest impact on the UK's economy? Clue: not the UK's payment to the EU.
What real examples do you have of the EU telling everyone what to do??? :doh:
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I didnt say the EU was bankrupting us, I said the idea of giving our money away to every country in need so we could all be equal would probably bankrupt us.
Real example? How about the fact that it took 8 YEARS to deport that maniac Abu Hamza, and he cost us £25million while he was here.
We had to wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait until eventually the judges in Strasbourg let us deport someone from our own country. And they were reluctant to do it.
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It may of taken 8 years to deport Abu Hamza but we are only fed the reasons why from the media and if you believe the media then your facts are probably wrong. If we stayed in the EU the law on deporting EU criminals in our prisons was about to be changed and made much quicker but now we are out the deportation of criminals is going to take much longer than it takes presently. Probably just as long if not longer than Abu Hamza. I'm sure that will drain a bit of cash out the taxpayers pocket.
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Craig Stanley:
--- Quote from: Craig Stanley on July 01, 2016, 06:15:39 am ---
--- Quote from: dansmith180 on July 01, 2016, 12:35:34 am ---
--- Quote from: Juliand on June 30, 2016, 10:43:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: dansmith180 on June 30, 2016, 09:23:39 am ---
I'm all for helping out fellow man and colour/ race/ religion doesn't really matter to me but you can't bankrupt yourself trying to save everyone when they don't always seem to be helping themselves.
Also if the people in control of the EU were focused on that rather than trying to tell everyone what they should do the world would be a better place.
--- End quote ---
At what point was our contribution to the EU bankrupting the UK?
Compare the UK's financial contribution to the EU in 2015 at £8.5 Billion net (after what we get back) against the loss to UK companies following the 'out' decision of over £120 Billion, and the biggest drop in Sterling in over 30 years? Which was the biggest impact on the UK's economy? Clue: not the UK's payment to the EU.
What real examples do you have of the EU telling everyone what to do??? :doh:
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I didnt say the EU was bankrupting us, I said the idea of giving our money away to every country in need so we could all be equal would probably bankrupt us.
Real example? How about the fact that it took 8 YEARS to deport that maniac Abu Hamza, and he cost us £25million while he was here.
We had to wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait until eventually the judges in Strasbourg let us deport someone from our own country. And they were reluctant to do it.
--- End quote ---
It may of taken 8 years to deport Abu Hamza but we are only fed the reasons why from the media and if you believe the media then your facts are probably wrong. If we stayed in the EU the law on deporting EU criminals in our prisons was about to be changed and made much quicker but now we are out the deportation of criminals is going to take much longer than it takes presently. Probably just as long if not longer than Abu Hamza. I'm sure that will drain a bit of cash out the taxpayers pocket.
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Also we don't know what is going to happen now. Its all a massive gamble and I'm sure we all hope it pays off.
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Scottymon:
It all shows how restrictive the EU is when you look how hard they make it to leave.
After article 50, The UK will be trading under WTO rules until new deals with the EU are made which could be 10 years, as they start fresh, sigh.
The UK, if they are going to article 50, should seek out the free trade deal with India that they sought but were blocked by EU after 9 years!
Then we can all drive Jag/Landrover from TATA more cheaply than VAG. Just need Jag to make a hot hatch, the ingenium engine designed AND built in the UK. Iirc the ecoboost was designed in the UK too.
Craig Stanley:
--- Quote from: Scottymon on July 01, 2016, 08:50:34 am ---It all shows how restrictive the EU is when you look how hard they make it to leave.
After article 50, The UK will be trading under WTO rules until new deals with the EU are made which could be 10 years, as they start fresh, sigh.
The UK, if they are going to article 50, should seek out the free trade deal with India that they sought but were blocked by EU after 9 years!
Then we can all drive Jag/Landrover from TATA more cheaply than VAG. Just need Jag to make a hot hatch, the ingenium engine designed AND built in the UK. Iirc the ecoboost was designed in the UK too.
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You should run for PM dude as you are clearly educated on the whole Brexit issue.
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garrardrj:
--- Quote from: Juliand on June 30, 2016, 10:43:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: dansmith180 on June 30, 2016, 09:23:39 am ---
I'm all for helping out fellow man and colour/ race/ religion doesn't really matter to me but you can't bankrupt yourself trying to save everyone when they don't always seem to be helping themselves.
Also if the people in control of the EU were focused on that rather than trying to tell everyone what they should do the world would be a better place.
--- End quote ---
At what point was our contribution to the EU bankrupting the UK?
Compare the UK's financial contribution to the EU in 2015 at £8.5 Billion net (after what we get back) against the loss to UK companies following the 'out' decision of over £120 Billion, and the biggest drop in Sterling in over 30 years? Which was the biggest impact on the UK's economy? Clue: not the UK's payment to the EU.
What real examples do you have of the EU telling everyone what to do??? :doh:
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Your £120bn quoted above is NOT a real figure , the £8.5bn IS
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