All Things Mk5 > Performance Modifications
Big brakes or Not
vRS Carl:
Ok before i start i want to stress that this post is My Personal Opinion :smiley: :smiley:
Currently i am thinking of upping the power on my car. Now wether this is K04 or Big Turbo kit i have yet to decide.
A number of people keep telling me though "oooh your gonna need bigger brakes if you start doing that".
What i really want to know though is Why do i need bigger brakes?
My thinking is this -
My car is a Skoda Octavia vRS. 200bhp as Standard and a 149mph top speed buy the book. So the car has 150mph Brakes on it anyway.
Now as i don't take my car on a track the only thing i have done brake wise is uprate the pads to DS2500's at the front. This has provided me with a bit more bite etc however i don't find myself braking later into corners etc.
It doesn't matter how good your brakes are your car will only go around any corner at a given speed. After that it is going to under/oversteer depending on the Corner/Car & Chassis.
Ok i agree having better brakes means i can brake later going into a corner. But as i have said i don't race my car on a track so this feature is of little use.
I have also been taught how to drive a car at high speed and control it so don't really have a problem when it comes to cornering or stopping etc.
I am also a firm believer that you could have the best brakes in the world but if you have Sh!te tyres then they aren't much use. To me it makes much more sense to have decent brakes (which the car has) and decent tyres. Surely this gives the same effect as having a big brake kit on and not so decent tyres.
My other thinking is no matter what i do power wise the car will still be the same weight etc so if (for example) i am trying to slow from 130Mph. I may have got there quicker but the Velocity & Mass of the car are still the same so my OEM brakes coupled with DS2500's are more than capable.
AM i being really stupid here (or in my case trying to save money and spend it on a Diff instead :laugh:)
Or because i don't take the car on the track and i don't drive like i stole it everywhere i am actually making sense?
Thoughts/comments good or bad welcome but please be constructive
Cheers
Carl :happy2:
tony_danza:
312s are fine then.
Just spec the fluid and pads accordingly so should you ever seriously need them, they'll have much better capability to deal with it.
gillm:
small brakes heat up and fade , due to the size and fluid you run . plus the oe calipers are single pot sliders so not a massive amount of force is applied , correct tyres is where things happen . im a firm beliver in tyres , you could spend 2k on coilover arbs etc , but if you spend 50 quid on hedgemaster 3000 (joke tyres) then you will be in the hedge backwards .
the best thing for you to do is to buy some r32 calipers and good discs with some ds2500 / braided hoses / 5.1 dot fluid .
tony_danza:
TBH I do agree with Gill,
312s might serve you well for years, but for what R32 stoppers cost and the improvement they make, it's a no brainer.
You don't need a £xxxx BBK for sure.
Janner_Sy:
audi RS4 B7 360mm twin pots can be had for £750 all in if you speak to the man in the know........he'll be along shortly. they'll be substantially stronger than R32 brakes for sure
they were mine until i decided to flog the vRS for something quicker
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