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Re: Milltek vs Pipewerx
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2020, 08:02:22 am »
Top tip
Always ask what cat washcoat weight is  :wink:
A 5-gram washcoat will get through an MOT, but due to it being an entropic surface coating it degrades with use - so you have to wonder how many times.
The main cost element is in the precious metal coating, the greater the load the higher the cost.
If you can't get an answer or they don't know walk away.
FYI the OEM cat will typically have a 60gram coating.
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Thanks for that info. Admittedly none of that was asked before purchasing but now I know for future reference. May have to upgrade to that powervalve sooner then anticipated!

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Re: Milltek vs Pipewerx
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2020, 08:10:03 am »
Mine passed MOT no problem at all back in March. Bought brand new & had been Fitted just over 7 months prior.

So did my APR DP with the sports cat, only just, the first year.  Second year, flat out fail.

Interesting.. I wasn’t aware some high-end sports cats had such a short lifespan, don’t get me wrong I knew that they didn’t last forever but a year seems mental.. especially for the price people pay for them too.
« Last Edit: July 11, 2020, 08:15:34 am by Cozza »

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Re: Milltek vs Pipewerx
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2020, 11:56:54 am »
Tell me about it.  The APR DP with 'GESI' cat (iirc) cost me £750 3 or 4 years ago! 

I get my MOT done at the local dealer so there's no rule bending with those guys.  I actually want them to find stuff to fix as it gives me something to do  :grin:

Anyway, first year with the APR it passed but the VW tech said he had to drive it hard for 10 mins to get the cat hot enough to pass.  It failed on the first attempt.

Second year it just flat out wouldn't pass.  CO spec is 0.01%. Can't remember the outer limit for a pass but the APR cat when roasting hot only managed 0.1%. 10 times worse than OEM!


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Re: Milltek vs Pipewerx
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2020, 02:21:35 pm »
The BCS Powervalve washcoat provides 0.00% on the Co both fast idle and natural idle and 4ppm (parts per million) on the Hydrocarbons (pass is less than 200 ppm - OEM reading is 1 ppm)
Get the data before you pay ;-)
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Re: Milltek vs Pipewerx
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2020, 06:22:34 pm »
Impressive  :happy2:

Are all your systems 3" or is there a 2.5" option?


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Re: Milltek vs Pipewerx
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2020, 09:54:06 am »
All of our systems are 3.00"  and come with a huge variable option list :happy2:
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Re: Milltek vs Pipewerx
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2020, 04:15:14 pm »
Just got a full milltek system, will it be MOT friendly?, haven’t fitted it yet so may stay with stock if so