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Very budget track build
pudding:
Some interesting reading there! I remember AmD very well from back in the day (90s, early 2000s), when it was Geoff Everett (who sadly passed away) and a couple of other guys. They were the VAG engine mapping & tuning pioneers, and also race car setup :happy2: They are not to be confused with the current 'AmD Essex' or 'AmD Tuning' who are nothing like what AmD used to be. I'm not sure how many times they've changed hands, but in the 2010 era, they weren't particularly good.
Aero plays a massive part. Ever noticed how MK5s feel a bit sketchy and vague well past 100? Lowering and stiffening helps, and also removing the stock rake, but they're just not that great aerodynamically. Too much underbody lift. Maybe underbody some aero parts from the A3 might help? All those plastic winglet things on the wishbones and full underbelly covers front and rear. The front end air flow is a big factor also as you say, hence why the race cars angle the radiator stack at 45 degrees or more and airflow passthrough the bonnet instead of allowing it flow through into the engine bay, which is massive drag :happy2:
All those wings, splitters and louvred wings we laugh at on road cars, yeah, those things really help on race/track cars :happy2: Have you seen that crazy MK2 16v Turbo on Misha Charoudin's YouTube channel? That thing was covered in DIY bodgey looking aero, but it was fast as fook round the ring because of it!
Powder coating looks great. Yeah the HPFP followers don't wear out if you keep on top of oil the maintenance, and it's generally only those stupidly stiff HPFPs from Loba and APR that chew though followers. That's why I liked the VIS internals as it uses the stock spring :happy2:
What I would also say is focus on yourself as a driver as well as preparing the car. You probably won't remember Maurice Reeves. He was famous for blasting round Castle Coombe in his pretty simple MK2 track car, which beat dozens of much more powerful and sophisticated cars. It was purely down to driver skill and the right mods :happy2:
GVK:
"All those wings, splitters and louvred wings we laugh at on road cars, yeah, those things really help on race/track cars :happy2: Have you seen that crazy MK2 16v Turbo on Misha Charoudin's YouTube channel? That thing was covered in DIY bodgey looking aero, but it was fast as fook round the ring because of it!"
The mk2 on You tube with the aero is owned by a mate of mine Nigel Pinder, really nice guy would help anyone.
He can lap the 'ring at Porsche GT3 pace low 7.3x mins. Thats quick in anyones book.
www.youtube.com search pinderwagen
https://pinderwagen.com/
Marticus:
I was watching misha’s vids about that golf recently, its an inspirational car for sure, and goes like anything.
I would love to see the reactions of the supercar owners as they get passed by a 30 year old golf, this kind of build is far more interesting to me that the porsche stuff hes been putting out recently.
GVK:
It's quick for sure , think it's pushing about 500hp these days.
I went round Cadwell Park as a passenger a few years back and it was amazing.
Clarkj93:
--- Quote from: Pudding on June 16, 2023, 08:46:14 pm ---Some interesting reading there! I remember AmD very well from back in the day (90s, early 2000s), when it was Geoff Everett (who sadly passed away) and a couple of other guys. They were the VAG engine mapping & tuning pioneers, and also race car setup :happy2: They are not to be confused with the current 'AmD Essex' or 'AmD Tuning' who are nothing like what AmD used to be. I'm not sure how many times they've changed hands, but in the 2010 era, they weren't particularly good.
Aero plays a massive part. Ever noticed how MK5s feel a bit sketchy and vague well past 100? Lowering and stiffening helps, and also removing the stock rake, but they're just not that great aerodynamically. Too much underbody lift. Maybe underbody some aero parts from the A3 might help? All those plastic winglet things on the wishbones and full underbelly covers front and rear. The front end air flow is a big factor also as you say, hence why the race cars angle the radiator stack at 45 degrees or more and airflow passthrough the bonnet instead of allowing it flow through into the engine bay, which is massive drag :happy2:
All those wings, splitters and louvred wings we laugh at on road cars, yeah, those things really help on race/track cars :happy2: Have you seen that crazy MK2 16v Turbo on Misha Charoudin's YouTube channel? That thing was covered in DIY bodgey looking aero, but it was fast as fook round the ring because of it!
Powder coating looks great. Yeah the HPFP followers don't wear out if you keep on top of oil the maintenance, and it's generally only those stupidly stiff HPFPs from Loba and APR that chew though followers. That's why I liked the VIS internals as it uses the stock spring :happy2:
What I would also say is focus on yourself as a driver as well as preparing the car. You probably won't remember Maurice Reeves. He was famous for blasting round Castle Coombe in his pretty simple MK2 track car, whac ich beat dozens of much more powerful and sophisticated cars. It was purely down to driver skill and the right mods :happy2:
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How is the bimmer going then? still taking it apart all the time like the ed30? Miss it at all?
Its the process of de-gassing the air con put me off doing it myself originally, but I may have another go.
A wavetrac diff is high up on my want list for sure, I think it will find easily a couple seconds per lap in its current form.
Interesting about the r32 battery setup, never thought to do it that way but you're right its all available used.
I didn't know that avout AmD, assumed it was the same firm they just abandoned that motorsport side of things.
Yeah I've found the rear feeling light and unpredictable in high speed turns occasionally, I've blamed it on other things in the past but it could be rear lift as the rear is super draggy. Yeah those "winglets" and bits and bobs would be interesting, I would like to see if I can construct a flat floor out of cardboard for the rear first of all and attach seecurely with full suspension movement, if so I can make a very thing aluminium one or just go with the off the shelf stuff which must do something. Yeah I would love a tcr style intercool/rad ducted to a bonnet vent, should be a massive difference in cooling.
Yeah I mean, when you see the tcr cars with aero or any club racing car with huge budgets (like Darkside and Area motorsport) they look great but anything home made half the time looks sh*t :grin: but cannot deny it works. Yes I know very well that mk2 you're talking about.
Yeah you're absolutely right on the driving, but something I'm on top of. I've done a bit of karting with some success in the past and I've probably put in about 6 or so hours per week on my sim setup for the past 3 years, I race with a league now which is made up of enthusiasts/couple of club racers and 1 or 2 pro drivers which has seen the biggest improvement for my driving by far as you push to find tiny amounts of time you wouldn't look for if you're just practicing on your own. I'm also a Ross Bentley super fan, the blokes a spewing enclyopedia of what is usually unavailable information on driving and racing.
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