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Re: DSG Help.
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2021, 11:56:53 pm »
Check the lower dog mount stabiliser and left hand gearbox mount as they’re common to tear/failure.

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Re: DSG Help.
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2021, 06:34:08 pm »
Thanks for the info above. I've checked the engine mounts and dogbone all good there.

Its when the DSG gets up to temperature the symptoms start.

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Re: DSG Help.
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2021, 10:18:53 pm »
It could be the engine.  DSG faults are often misdiagnosed due to engine issues.  Although the gearbox has it's own brain, it does also communicate with the engine's brain. Remember the DSG is just an automated manual gearbox at the end of the day, so in the same way an unhappy engine can cause surging/kangarooing/lurching with manual gearboxes, same applies to DSG.

At only 75K and if it's standard, I highly doubt it's the clutch pack. If it's remapped, that can have a bearing, but even then the clutch clamping force is generally only tightened with high torque/power applications.

I would at least give the engine the once over in the first instance.  All the usual PCV, MAF, boost pipe checks etc etc.  A happy engine usually = a happy gearbox!

Oh, and how many miles have you given the gearbox to adapt post oil/mechatronics change?  VAG engines/boxes can take quite a few miles to 'relearn'.

I seem to remember someone on here years ago having similar issues, and it was caused by a faulty MAF sensor.

Hey, thanks for that 👍 main reason I'm sure its not the engine is because it runs no issues (from what I can tell)

My car is stock and when driving around 2nd gear + its perfect.

It's hesitant in down shifting from 3rd to 2nd at times. It's almost like its struggling to find the gear. The car lurches forward when you drive away from traffic lights in 1st but soon as it hits 2nd gear no problems.

Sometimes when driving and say I was to come to a stop and select reverse it takes a good second or two to think about the gear change and when it does and I press the acceleration pedal its violently lurches back. Also it has a very hard time reversing up my driveway (which is on an incline)

Yeah I have the same struggles in reverse with my manual reversing up an incline  :grin:  The engine really doesn't like it!

It does sound like it could be the gearbox then if you're sure the engine side of things is all fine and dandy.  Whether it's the clutch pack or something more sinister, I couldn't tell you I'm afraid.



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Re: DSG Help.
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2021, 09:52:03 pm »
So today I fixed my DSG issue myself.

Fault - FORCE SOLENOID N215 & N216 in the mecatronics.

I Bought genuine borg warner valves after following this guide:

http://www.evosoft.dk/tech.html



My recommendation dont use ecutesting.com for mecatronics diagnosis...they do not test the mecatronics properly!

The guides above will help most issues related to DSG. I also got quoted £1800 ex VAT. from a recommended garage on the forums to do the work. They wanted to change the clutchpack & mecatronics unit.

I fixed this myself for £200.

Hope the helps anyone else on here.  :happy2:
« Last Edit: November 10, 2021, 09:57:47 pm by GreigC »

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Re: DSG Help.
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2021, 08:43:43 am »
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Re: DSG Help.
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2021, 07:01:16 pm »
I Bought genuine borg warner valves after following this guide:

Well done - Im guessing the Golf has been out of action for some time - you must be chuffed!

Where on earth do you get the valves from?

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Re: DSG Help.
« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2021, 08:32:17 pm »
I Bought genuine borg warner valves after following this guide:

Well done - Im guessing the Golf has been out of action for some time - you must be chuffed!

Where on earth do you get the valves from?

I was driving it everyday! I am very happy I managed to fix it myself.  :grin:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-SEAT-SKODA-DSG-6-SPEED-AUTO-GEARBOX-VARIABLE-FORCE-SOLENOID-N215-N216-/402560914398?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

You cannot buy the solenoids from TPS or VW so I found them from auto gearbox specialist on ebay. 👍
« Last Edit: November 11, 2021, 08:40:12 pm by GreigC »

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Re: DSG Help.
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2021, 08:33:04 pm »
The failed solenoids removed from mecatronics. Not knowing which one had failed i decided to replace both.




« Last Edit: November 11, 2021, 08:38:44 pm by GreigC »

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Re: DSG Help.
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2021, 08:46:17 pm »
Wow  - Great information you have gathered - @andy - potential sticky?

Just in case the listing disappears:

Manufaturer:
Borg Warner

Manufaturers PN:   
26500032KA

Listing title:
GENUINE SEAT SKODA DSG 6 SPEED AUTO GEARBOX VARIABLE FORCE SOLENOID N215 N216

Listing description:
"GENUINE VW AUDI SEAT SKODA  DSG 6 SPEED AUTOMATIC GEARBOX VARIABLE FORCE SOLENOID N215 N216 VSF  DCT  26500032KA

SUITABLE FOR DSG 6 SPEED WET CLUTCH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION"


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Re: DSG Help.
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2021, 12:28:41 pm »
Great work  :happy2:

It's not easy narrowing down DSG issues with no fault codes to at least point you in the right direction, so well done  :congrats:


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Re: DSG Help.
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2021, 10:19:57 pm »
See Pudding post... He's a bright boy, and very knowledgeable / skilled  on almost everything.. Big respect....  and extremely helpful on most posts