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Best Anti Roll Bar kit?
GLIDN:
--- Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on October 26, 2010, 11:50:58 pm ---I too have the adjustable Whiteline anti-roll bars - front soft, rear hard. I'd happily recommend them. :smiley:
And to the Kiwi who said they have difficulty getting stuff - Whiteline are made in Australia, so fairly local! :wink:
--- End quote ---
lol, yeah I know No whiteline products in NZ, no stock. Minimum 5 -6 weeks wait.
Ended up getting an APR from APR NZ in little under 1 week. Pretty impressed I must say.
the bruce:
Hello all,
I'm new on this board for just a few days and I'm pleased by this forum
an the technical competence of it's members.
:happy2: :happy2:
I was looking for the best ARBs some time ago and made a posting like
this on a german forum. So let's begin:
Most of You know about the advantages:
- reduced roll
- reduced loss auf camber when cornering
- better Handling
- more clearence when cornering hard with ultralow suspension
- just a very small amount of loss of comfort
Most AR bars of PQ35 platform cars do fit the golf except 4-motion vs. fwd.
stock GTI/Touran etc.:
H&R:
APR:
Hotchkis:
Attention: most OEM are tube types, thickness in mm. Most tuner bars are solid
(except APR/Hotachkis).
I made a table of the bars I know of, but there may be some more:
Type: diameter front (x thickness) / diameter rear (x thickness)
OEM:
A3 Ambition/S-Line: 22,5 x 3,5 / 20,7 x 2,8
Golf V GTI: 23,6 x 3,5 / 21,7 x 3,0
Golf V R32: 22,0 massiv / 21,7 x 3,0 (4-motion)
Golf VI GTI: 23,6 x 3,5 / 21,7 x 3,0 PR-0BF oder 21,7 x 3,6 PR-0BM (DCC?)
Golf VI R: 22,0 massiv / 21,7 x 3,6 (4-motion)
Scirocco R: 23,6 x 3,5 / 21,7 x 3,6
Touran: 23,0 massiv / 21,7 x 3,0
Passat R36: 23,6 massiv / 21,7 x 3,6 (4-motion)
Sharan model 2011: 24.0 solid / 20.0 solid
tuning:
H&R 'normal': 26 / 22 mm
Eibach AntiRoll: 26 / 23 mm
KW clubsport: 26 / 23 mm
H&R 'extra-dick': 28 / 24 mm (there is a 28 mm rear at AWE)
H&R 4-motion: 25 / 25 mm
Whiteline: 24 / 24 mm
Neuspeed: 25 / 25 mm (without TÜV)
APR/Hotchkis: 27 / 27 mm (tubular, without TÜV)
KW CS sould be identical to the Eibach AR kit, just yellow instead of red, so look
at the pricing or choose the colour you like.
=)
Some data about the torsional resistance:
inner hole (short arm)
outer hole (long arm)
- OEM front GTI
diam. 23,6 x 3,5 mm - tube
c = 65,6 N/mm
- H&R front
diam. 28 mm - solid
c = 172 N/mm Mitte (~ 156 N/mm outer bzw. 188 N/mm inner)
- OEM rear GTI
diam. 21,7 x 3 mm - tube
c = 59,5 N/mm
- H&R rear
diam. 24 mm - solid
c = 122,7 N/mm Mitte (~ 109 N/mm outer bzw. 139 N/mm inner)
As You see torsional resistance ist twice as hard on the rear and 2 1/2 to3 x
on the front.
In conjunction with stiffer springs roll is half than OEM, with TT arms maybe even less.
:wink:
Whiteline has a helpful table to compare the diameters on their website !!
Some my be interested in the stiffer OEM bars (e.g. Sharan), but be aware that they're
only slightly harder than stock GTI bars. If You wanna feel a real difference buy the
more expensive ones with 25 to 28 mm.
The Sharan rear bar maybe an option when you just want to change the rear ARB because
it's relatively cheap and changing rear is easy.
I'd recommend the 28/24 H&R and the Whiteline 24/24. H&R Advantages: TÜV, teflon liner
bushes, forged ends, quick turn in response.
The Whiteline offer a more neutral balance, triple adjustment, better traction and since 2011
they come with TÜV certificate as well.
danishmkvgti:
Hotchkiss=APR, same bar, APR just repaints it :happy2:
Autotech is also hollow, and IMO worth considering :xmaspresent:
Janner_Sy:
All the eibach ARBs are now hollow as well
Carrera2RS:
Anyone know what stiffness the VWR bars are ?
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