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DSG hesitating on downshift
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: stokeballoon on January 17, 2011, 01:48:14 pm ---
--- Quote from: RedRobin on January 17, 2011, 09:31:33 am ---
....That's what I was alluding to. Same difference - Lou is 'forcing' the shift. I still say it's not a great way to drive IMO whether DSG or manual or on any vehicle.
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^^^^
Why is that a bad way to drive a Manual?
In a manual you stick the clutch in, and select 2nd from 4th, and ready for a junction, bend or get instant acceleration capability for an overtake manouver, as long as you don't over-rev the engine what is the problem in a manual?
:popcornsoda:
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....Sure, you can do it but IMO it omits using the engine braking. As you rightly point out, it's important not to over-rev the engine and that's easier to do if you're in the habit of double-clicking. I think it's a lazy way to drive too. Just the way I've been taught.
Hedge:
If I was being lazy I would just let the box downshift itself.
By double clicking and dropping 2 gears I have used more engine braking. :confused:
vRS Carl:
I certainly don't see a problem with dropping more than one gear. As long as you get the revs to match for a smooth change then it's fine.
I think the problem would be if you just went from 4th to 2nd and sidestepped the clutch. :laugh:
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: LouCyffer on January 17, 2011, 01:30:43 pm ---
Robin, as you have such fast road/track experience, have you noticed anything similar if you, for example, had to hurry a shift into a bend?
I wonder if it's worth polling the DSGers amongst us regards hesitation (in auto mode) as I described.
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....I don't have a lot of track experience - Some, but not as much as many here. But I do have 90k miles of DSG experience in my GTI.
When I first had my DSG way back in 2005, I didn't feel comfortable with the small plastic oem paddleshifters and drove for several thousand miles in D but always used S for overtakes and a series of spirited bends. I've never liked the feel of nudging the floor stick and have only used that method less times than I can count on one hand. In reaching for the floor stick I find it natural to expect a gate.
So, at around 6k miles my Mechatronics module hiccup'd and VW replaced it under warranty although there was only one incidence and the car drove normally straight afterwards. I have experienced, like many others here, clunky shifts but they have invariably been down to cold temperature. I now always let my engine warm up so that the revs drop before I engage any gear.
From time to time I have experienced hesitancy but only in D or S and it has always seemed to be just a delay on gear selection probably down to the DSG brain momentarily being unsure about what my right foot was asking for. It has always cleared up after a few miles of 'retraining' - The DSG 'learns' your driving style.
Since Revo remapped my DSG box, none of these problems have occurred except for the cold temperature IF I don't settle the engine first.
I hope this helps in some way :happy2:
vRS Carl:
--- Quote from: RedRobin on January 17, 2011, 05:05:49 pm ---From time to time I have experienced hesitancy but only in D or S
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That's odd :confused:
Mine hesitates in P & N as well :evilgrin:
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