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RedRobin:

--- Quote from: rex on February 06, 2011, 03:46:58 pm ---Agree.
Another point is that I might like a setup and someone else might like a different setup.

The reason for different camber is from front to back is, in my opinion, the manufacturer's desire to make the car stable and rather understeer than oversteer. Because I fell the need for more camber doesn't mean that all of us should. I checked my tires and fount that the outer part was worn more than the interior. This means I need more negative camber.  Everybody can easy check if they need more or less camber if they check the temperature of the tires (the outer part, the inner part and the middle). If the outer part temperature is higher than the inner temperature than more negative camber is required. If the middle part has a higher temperature than the outside's than the tires are overinflated.
 

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....Absolutely, we each have our own preferences. Mine is for feeling taut and tactile even at the expense of a little comfort: Hard but not harsh. It makes me feel more confident and less caccooned.

Isn't a gadget for measuring the temperatures across different sections of a tyre fairly specialised? The nearest I get to that is a TyreSure monitor with sensors in each wheel which relays pressure and temp for each individual tyre to a small display. It of course only provides one temperature value but does so every 5 seconds. It won't help with assessing any need for more/less camber.

rex:
The device is called "Pirometer" (I hope this is the English name) and from what I understand is a very very useful device for camber setup and tire pressure setup.

RedRobin:

--- Quote from: rex on February 06, 2011, 04:09:05 pm ---
The device is called "Pirometer" (I hope this is the English name) and from what I understand is a very very useful device for camber setup and tire pressure setup.


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....Correctly spelt pyrometer (but don't worry, your spelling is better than many English people!).

Wikipedia:   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrometer

RagingKileak:
I think this thread has become rather more helpful overnight, shame I missed it.

I personally doubt I will do the TT arms as part of any 'Stage 1' suspension mod. It seems like a big parts price before labour, with perhaps less apparent result than ARB's or an uprated Springs/Shocks set.

I'm keen to know more about the bang per buck opinions on one set of ARB's vs another. In BMW land, thicker is not always better and I'm guessing some adjust and others don't etc. What's fitting like on the front and rear with the MK5?

Also coilies vs a good fixed kit. Thats a tough one... I don't see any evidence that 'enough' R&D has gone into any fixed set, eg the B12 kit. Plus of course there is my weight etc which needs to be accounted for.... Coilovers are typically overkill for me though. I know for an absolute fact that I'll never change the setup following the initial purchase.

Brakes wise I have R32 brakes which seem fine, albeit heavy. I'd have bought the car from John modded yes, though not with NOS and probably not with the tenpot brakes.... both are a step too far. Oh, Engine Mounts I've definitely considered too, but not in this 'phase' really.

My nearest hunter machine is in wakefield. I went there to setup my M3 for the track and will do so for the MK5 too.

Cheers so far.

Matt

Hedge:

--- Quote from: RedRobin on February 06, 2011, 03:47:59 pm ---
--- Quote from: Hedge on February 06, 2011, 03:35:48 pm ---
--- Quote from: RedRobin on February 06, 2011, 03:26:18 pm ---
....Yes, but there are reasons why the Mk5 GTI has more camber on the back than the front.


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Please enlighten us Obi-Wan.  :popcornsoda:


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....I didn't say that I actually knew the reasons  :laugh:


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It builds understeer Robin which to Joe Public is a far safer and more progressive way of telling them they have overcooked it.  :P

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