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Is there anyone has gone Stg2/2+ and wished they had not?

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RedRobin:
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Even with a Quaife diff I'm happy with ~270 bhp and smooth dyno plots. I hate wheelspin. I also prefer some headroom in the tolerance limits for reliability. So 300 bhp is not for me in this car. I like the slightly livelier K03 turbo too. ETTO  :happy2:

GrayMK5GTI:

--- Quote from: RedRobin on November 27, 2012, 07:34:27 pm ---^^^^
Even with a Quaife diff I'm happy with ~270 bhp and smooth dyno plots. I hate wheelspin. I also prefer some headroom in the tolerance limits for reliability. So 300 bhp is not for me in this car. I like the slightly livelier K03 turbo too. ETTO  :happy2:

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Mine with only stage 1 is so lively it can spin the wheels in 2nd & third in the dry, when I drove an S3 (K04) it felt very sluggish low down in comparison.

The K03 is a very flexible turbo and is probably what got the GTI it's reputation for being so lag free  :notworthy:

berg:

--- Quote from: E30Dom on November 27, 2012, 02:01:19 pm ---What transmission woes have you been having? Is it the aggressive B9 doing it with the high T6 giving alot of torque all at once?

I was thinking bout dropping to stage 1 and buying a track day car with proceeds of the APR pump, exhaust, Unibrace and keeping it as a daily, but then I drove it and thought wow this is a fun daily hack, why change it... And because i've uprated the clutch it seems a waste not to use the full potential... and if I ever sell it would have to be as a whole...(offers of £9750+)

Kinda wished I stayed at stage 1 and did the suspension, but then again I wouldn't have uprated the brakes probably, but so glad I did, cos they are awesome, aspire so much more confidence and look ace... and now stage 2+ is certainly showing the suspension needs work... nothing coilovers/ARB's and poly bushes won;t sort  ;)

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gearbox and dmf killed = torque killed them. Already had Sachs clutch in with the Wavetrac and the clutch was fine and Steve put it back in.

bacillus:
iirc if you already have revo installed, the software from stage 2/2+ K03 to k04 is £100.

Janner_Sy:

--- Quote from: RedRobin on November 27, 2012, 07:00:43 pm ---^^^^
Thanks, Sy - That explains it all very well  :drinking:

I guess that my thinking that it would be very limiting having a remap without also a TBE exhaust led to my conclusions. Surely you need a remap when you go from K03 to K04?

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A remap will 100 % need to be installed, but it wouldnt be an off the shelf setup like APR or REVO as they dont cater for this.  It would need to be a bespoke custom setup.

Regarding it being limiting.  It depends what your after.  Would you say a stage 1 Ed30 is limited in its performance?

I think 300hp is more than enough in a FWD car so adding the exhaust/intake etc as well as the K04 turbo you will end up with  damn site more than 300hp and also with a much larger dent in the wallet.  

The reason i posted this is because the OP started his first post asking if stage 2+ was a step to far for some people.  I had mine at stage 2+ and in hindsight i think id have preferred to go the route i've mentioned in earlier.  Same power, less cost and with less stress and strain on the fueling system and the turbo.

at the end of the day a K04 turbo at 300Hp is a damn site less stressed than a 280Hp K03 turbo, the much more headroom with the S3 injectors and there is much less of a heat soak problem.

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