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Replacing a RCD300 radio with RCD510 with DAB into Mk5 GT with upto date CANbus

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CHdriver:
I have just retrofited a DAB RCD510 into a Mk5 GT Sport and although there is a lot of help in various forums, there isn't anything in one place, so I thought I would give back to the VW Golf community

1.  Removing the dash of Mk5 Golf – RCD300 - use this great link:

http://www.jonathansblog.net/volkswagen_vw_xcarlink_ipod_adaptor_rcd_300_radio_remove

2. If you have an AUX or an external CD changer you need to alter the pins according to the linked instructions.  Note that the diagrams in the instructions are from the back, i.e. in the real world you cannot see as clearly because the wires are going into the plugs in front of you. Plug B is Blue, and can be unclipped from the mount. Within the blue plug is a black honeycomb insert which slides out of the blue holder. Use a small precision screw driver to push down the pins through the opening on the top of the honeycomb while pulling on the relevant wire.  No special tools are needed.

http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/aktion/Attachment.html?attachmentId=602167 It downloads a PDF file, save the file locally to view the instructions.

3. Changing the aerial for a DAB/FM combined aerial.  First remove headlining, use these instructions:

http://www.golfmkv.net/blog/archives/29#  

You don't need to remove the grab handles, there is enough room to change the aerial with just the C pillar trim loosened and the trim across the middle removed.

I installed a combined DAB/FM bee sting aerial to replace the bee sting my late 2008 Golf GT Sport came with.  I installed a JVC HAL2, however there are other options.  The JVC aerial is slightly more upright than the original VW aerial, in hindsight I should have check the angle of the aerial as it now catches on the garage door.

Below is a link to the various aerial options

http://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/DAB_car_aerials.html

All the external mounted aerials seem to have the same connectors.
The DAB cable has a SMB Female connector, which does fit the RCD510 DAB input, although it doesn’t look like it.  Just line it up and inset the plug, it’s a tight fit but fits perfectly.

The FM cable is the problem, the aerials are supplied with a Hirschmann (aka M 10 x 0.75 male connector). [I have subsequently found that the Blaupunkt Shark Line A-RD T 01-M may have the correct Fakra connection to the FM cable.]

There doesn’t seem to be a converter to change the Hirschmann connection to a male fakra (white) connection, i.e. you need a connector with female Hirschmann to a male Fakra.  You can convert the Hirschmann to a male DIN , but then all the female DIN to Fakra connectors terminate in a female Fakra.

Car coaxial cable is very similar in construction to a coaxial cable in your home, but smaller diameter.  I cut off the Hirschmann connector from the JVC aerial and cut off the original Frakra connection from the VW aerial as close to the aerial as possible so I had as much coaxial cable to work with as possible and spliced them together, making sure I secured the splice with black insulating tape.  

The aerial requires 12Vpower, but I think the RCD10 provides the power via the coaxial, so I didn’t connect the 12v power lead from the JVC aerial to anything.  I have great FM and DAB reception, but no longer have any AM reception, I don’t know if that is because the aerial is not getting enough power, or the splice.  If you are installing an RCD510 without DAB you shouldn't have this problem because you don't need to change the aerial and therefore your AM reception should be unchanged.  As I now have DAB it doesn't matter that AM doesn't work.

I routed the DAB cable down the C pillar and under the plastic trim between the doors and the carpet to the glovebox, and then behind the glovebox into the space where the radio is stored.  The trim is easy to remove and replace.  I used a wire coat hanger to drop the cable down the C pillar and then to go behind the glove box.  Just push the  straightened coat hanger through were you want the cable to go, attach the DAB cable to the coat hanger wire with masking tape and pull the coat hanger back though.  Apart from putting the screws back in the C pillar (which is a nightmare if you drop them) the cable routing takes about 10 mins.

The RCD510 has 2 FM inputs the same as the RCD300, but in a slightly different configuration, so you need an adapter

http://www.my-gti.com/1088/upgrading-2nd-generation-radios-rcd-300-rcd-500-to-3rd-generation-rcd-210-rcd-310-rns-310-rns-510-rcd-510-antenna-adapter

The connectors are about £30 from VW direct or £20 from ebay.

Once the aerials are connected, check the radio works before pushing it back into place and replacing the trim.  The radio will require a 4 digit code if it is going into a new car.
I don’t have steering controls or a more sophisticated dashboard display than the standard spec, so the radio now works fine.

pipston:
will this update work if you have an RNS510 and replace the aerial? or do you need a new head unit too?

i had a mk6 courtessy car from the stealers this week which had DAB radio in the head unit....i need this in my life!  :rolleye:

GazB:
Im lloking at fitting an RNS510, so this post should be proper helpful ;)

daveangel:
Re DAB fitment

the dab aerial base is 1K0 035 501H £72 (has fm,dab,gsm,navi)
the aerial mast to fit base 1K0 035 849 £15
diversity fm aerial adaptor 7L6 051 551 £24
dab aerial adaptor 000 098 710A £13
4m aerial cable 000 098 654 A £17

VW prices

DamoP:
thanks for this , been looking for a dab aerial , got one in the end  :happy2:

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