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chungster:

--- Quote from: tony_danza on April 05, 2009, 12:07:48 pm ---Took over a second out of it, very very happy.

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see you just missed out on getting under 30secs!  good time tho, 5th best on the day!

gadget:

--- Quote from: tony_danza on April 05, 2009, 11:26:14 am ---The S3 bush is different to the Golf one, so I think if we're talking about 3/4 stages of upgrade it is relevant.

Stock   (soft)
S3       (harder)
Poly     (hardest)
WALK  (Poly + caster increased)

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This is my thinking hence the upgrade to the S3 units. APS have noticed tuned Edition 30's and GTi's suffering with lots of play in the bushes and this was just a mod to stop this. I don't want to go to mad as I only drive this 5% of the time, it is my wife who drives it and every mod comes with a condition "As long as I can still get over speed bumps at Waitrose"

Top Cat:

--- Quote from: gadget on April 05, 2009, 03:06:55 pm ---
--- Quote from: tony_danza on April 05, 2009, 11:26:14 am ---The S3 bush is different to the Golf one, so I think if we're talking about 3/4 stages of upgrade it is relevant.

Stock   (soft)
S3       (harder)
Poly     (hardest)
WALK  (Poly + caster increased)

--- End quote ---

This is my thinking hence the upgrade to the S3 units. APS have noticed tuned Edition 30's and GTi's suffering with lots of play in the bushes and this was just a mod to stop this. I don't want to go to mad as I only drive this 5% of the time, it is my wife who drives it and every mod comes with a condition "As long as I can still get over speed bumps at Waitrose"

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Can anyone clue me up on the effects of camber as this post above plus a couple of others are getting me confused.  :rolleye:

First point, MR gadget you mention above you did not want to go mad with the mods, because basically its the wife's, so you chose the S3 unit rather than the W.A.L.K kit. Understandable but in your ride thread, you have added negative camber to your rear wheels.
So guys can you explain to me the full effects of adding real camber to front and back of the car. What are the benefit's and negative's . This is me carrying the sign  :signIWS: but surely adding negative camber to the rear is more extreme than adding the walk kit to the fronts.  :confused:

tony_danza:
Negative camber simply gives the outside tyre a better footprint, to stop it rolling onto the sidewall under hard cornering as it turns to positive.

Imagine going around a hard bend, a normal outside wheel will go from this | to this /. A neg camber wheel will go from this \ to this |. Does that help?

Too much and it'll wear the inside of the tyre.

RedRobin:

--- Quote from: tony_danza on April 06, 2009, 11:28:22 am ---Negative camber simply gives the outside tyre a better footprint, to stop it rolling onto the sidewall under hard cornering as it turns to positive.

Imagine going around a hard bend, a normal outside wheel will go from this | to this /. A neg camber wheel will go from this \ to this |. Does that help?

Too much and it'll wear the inside of the tyre.

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....Plus by having just a little negative camber on the rears /--------\ you'll be less inclined to lose the back end (again why it's best to have your deeper treaded tyres on the rear axle of a FWD car).

The trick is to have enough without creating uneven tyre wear.

HTH

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