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Motech mapped DSG 'hesitation' after gear change - FIXED. R-TECH Reign supreme
Hedge:
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--- Quote from: jedi-knight83 on June 12, 2012, 12:05:37 pm ---Just found this old thread...
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,7359.0.html
same issue and it was down to a manual map rather than DSG.
Between the car being mapped at revo and then put back to 'standard' and then Motech mapping it... I wonder if things have got mixed up.
Surely its pretty easy to see if one is manual and one is DSG though?
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You would know if they did as the car is undriveable with the wrong map on as supplied by Supperchips.
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It's not because I drove mine like it for a month :confused: .it was driveable but delay on change up was pants like the O.P is suffering.
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I seem to remember you saying that as you'd never driven a mapped car you thought that was how it was supposed to be. :confused:
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That's correct.. My point was that u said the car would be undriveable.
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Well mine was. Mine was also stage 2.
--- Quote from: Tamiyoman on June 12, 2012, 04:36:56 pm ---This "Hesitation" is due to DSG box torque limiters is it not?, once DSG map done it goes away?
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Not for the Supperchips cars. Wrong map supplied.
jedi-knight83:
--- Quote from: Tamiyoman on June 12, 2012, 04:36:56 pm ---This "Hesitation" is due to DSG box torque limiters is it not?, once DSG map done it goes away?
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but i dont want a dsg map and tbh dont feel I should need one for a stage 1 map to function properly.
R-tech-Nick:
--- Quote from: jedi-knight83 on June 12, 2012, 05:25:57 pm ---
--- Quote from: Tamiyoman on June 12, 2012, 04:36:56 pm ---This "Hesitation" is due to DSG box torque limiters is it not?, once DSG map done it goes away?
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but i dont want a dsg map and tbh dont feel I should need one for a stage 1 map to function properly.
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It seems like your getting nowhere fast with this one.
Pop it up to me I will take a look for you £FOC, I have all the stock map revisions read from 6MT and DSG cars, I have a data base of maps which are known to me to be working 100% with the DSG. Plus I can also adjust the DSG torque limiter if needed or even use a later stock dsg map.
When tuning the 6MT TFSI map I adjust the load axis scaling to give me better scope on the engine ecu torque structure, but if I apply the same mapping style to the DGS car I tend to get minor torque relation issues between the engine and dsg ecu shich can cause shift delay or torque limiting via the dsg.
But on the other hand the engine load axis scaling could be used to fool the dsg ecu to think the engine is at a lower torque output which will allow for more torque to the wheels.
Plus there are some early engine map and dsg map versions which when tuned dont work too well together.
Saintsteve:
--- Quote from: Hedge on June 12, 2012, 05:07:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: Saintsteve on June 12, 2012, 04:33:52 pm ---
--- Quote from: Hedge on June 12, 2012, 04:32:01 pm ---
--- Quote from: Saintsteve on June 12, 2012, 04:23:52 pm ---
--- Quote from: Hedge on June 12, 2012, 02:22:49 pm ---
--- Quote from: jedi-knight83 on June 12, 2012, 12:05:37 pm ---Just found this old thread...
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,7359.0.html
same issue and it was down to a manual map rather than DSG.
Between the car being mapped at revo and then put back to 'standard' and then Motech mapping it... I wonder if things have got mixed up.
Surely its pretty easy to see if one is manual and one is DSG though?
--- End quote ---
You would know if they did as the car is undriveable with the wrong map on as supplied by Supperchips.
--- End quote ---
It's not because I drove mine like it for a month :confused: .it was driveable but delay on change up was pants like the O.P is suffering.
--- End quote ---
I seem to remember you saying that as you'd never driven a mapped car you thought that was how it was supposed to be. :confused:
--- End quote ---
That's correct.. My point was that u said the car would be undriveable.
--- End quote ---
Well mine was. Mine was also stage 2.
--- Quote from: Tamiyoman on June 12, 2012, 04:36:56 pm ---This "Hesitation" is due to DSG box torque limiters is it not?, once DSG map done it goes away?
--- End quote ---
Not for the Supperchips cars. Wrong map supplied.
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Mine was stage 1 with the issue. Not this problem on stage 2. :wink:
jedi-knight83:
--- Quote from: R-tech-Nick on June 12, 2012, 08:47:13 pm ---
--- Quote from: jedi-knight83 on June 12, 2012, 05:25:57 pm ---
--- Quote from: Tamiyoman on June 12, 2012, 04:36:56 pm ---This "Hesitation" is due to DSG box torque limiters is it not?, once DSG map done it goes away?
--- End quote ---
but i dont want a dsg map and tbh dont feel I should need one for a stage 1 map to function properly.
--- End quote ---
It seems like your getting nowhere fast with this one.
Pop it up to me I will take a look for you £FOC, I have all the stock map revisions read from 6MT and DSG cars, I have a data base of maps which are known to me to be working 100% with the DSG. Plus I can also adjust the DSG torque limiter if needed or even use a later stock dsg map.
When tuning the 6MT TFSI map I adjust the load axis scaling to give me better scope on the engine ecu torque structure, but if I apply the same mapping style to the DGS car I tend to get minor torque relation issues between the engine and dsg ecu shich can cause shift delay or torque limiting via the dsg.
But on the other hand the engine load axis scaling could be used to fool the dsg ecu to think the engine is at a lower torque output which will allow for more torque to the wheels.
Plus there are some early engine map and dsg map versions which when tuned dont work too well together.
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Thank you. That is a mighty fine offer. I would be happy to pay for RR time and diagnostics etc... infact someone recommended I bring it to you anyway.
End of the day I dont mind paying for the right solution.. I just didn't want to be throwing money at VW to put a stock map on it and then get it tunned again only to find it hasn't solved anything.
I'll give you a call tomorrow. :happy2:
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