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KWv3 and whiteline anti-lift kit

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Top Cat:

--- Quote from: iainalpine on April 13, 2009, 08:52:59 pm ---Top Cat Hi

had a wee look at the review for these products but was looking to see what everyone thought of them as it mite be great to somone but not so good to another. also i was told the KWv3's were the best setup for DSG equipped cars, is this true?

thanks for your input mate

Iain

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The anti-lift kit is a no brainer, if fitted correctly and realignment done then its just plug and play you should not get any excessive tyre wear and the extra grip is amazing at first, the car feels like it is getting sucked down when in a straight line, and you really can feel it when exiting a fast or slow bend like a roundabout.  :smiley:
With the coilovers, The V2 version has adjustment on the  rebound only, The tuner that fitted mine set them to middle comfort and said see how they go.
I will probably get shot down now, but in my opinion, unless you do regular track days then i cant see why you would need adjustment other than ride height. I do plenty of spirited driving  :evilgrin: and i have never even considered adjustment. the ride is great and it feels like its on rails on long sweeping bends.
All this corner weighting and set up talk in my opinion is for the track, and if the spring and shock rates are the same on V1 then i would in hindsight have plumped for these.  :smiley:

RedRobin:

--- Quote from: Top Cat on April 13, 2009, 09:10:00 pm ---
I will probably get shot down now, but in my opinion, unless you do regular track days then i cant see why you would need adjustment other than ride height. I do plenty of spirited driving  :evilgrin: and i have never even considered adjustment. the ride is great and it feels like its on rails on long sweeping bends.

All this corner weighting and set up talk in my opinion is for the track, and if the spring and shock rates are the same on V1 then i would in hindsight have plumped for these.  :smiley:


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....Agreed that V3's and, even better, KW Clubsport, are best for the track, but the car doesn't know whether it's on a road or a track when on a 'spirited' drive. And so the ever-changing dynamic forces which the suspension is subjected to still need to be dealt with.

The great advantage of more adjustability is that it enables a more finely tuned setup (if the person doing it knows what they are doing!). Same with corner-weighting - It's not essential but it all helps fine tuning.

The bottom line is that the stock Mk5 chassis and handling is very good indeed and how far you decide to go with aftermarket suspension is up to the individual, and, as always, what they can or want to also afford.

So, I'm not going to sit here and try and claim that one is 'better' than the other suspension system but only that one suits one driver more than another. I like my car to be extremely taut and tactile, hence my particular mods. For me it feels safer but it doesn't guarantee my safety!

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RedRobin:

--- Quote from: iainalpine on April 13, 2009, 08:57:57 pm ---
RedRobin, thanks for the info. What rollbars are the best for the mkv? i have heard about creaking noises coming from the etc! on my mk4 gti i fitted eibach rollbars and coilovers along with polly bushes and really loved the way it felt on the road wheather i was pushing on in a B road or cruising on the Mway. if i could get the same in the mkv i would be one happy guy.

Iain :happy2:


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....I've had Eibach ARB's on mine for over 50k miles and have experienced squeaking noises from bushes needing greasing. HR's are supposed to be good and I'm sure there are others too but I don't know enough about them. I'm not sure about Neuspeed because some of their products have been shown to be quite unnecessary.

Robin

iainalpine:
Top Cat and RedRobin, some worth while points there, thanks for your thoughts. it would interest me to find out why the tuner i have spoke to suggested the KWv3's "since the car is equipped with with DSG"! as you guys have noted, the v2's are good enough if your not really going out to be doing track days 24/7. i do remember someone talking about back end bounce?
maybe its something to do with that.

anyway, thanks again for your wisdom and thoughts

Iain

RedRobin:

--- Quote from: iainalpine on April 14, 2009, 07:29:47 am ---
it would interest me to find out why the tuner i have spoke to suggested the KWv3's "since the car is equipped with with DSG"!


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....Which tuner is saying this? It sounds suspiciously as if he's got stock of KW-V3's he wants to sell. DSG has absolutely no influence on the choice of suspension.


--- Quote from: iainalpine on April 14, 2009, 07:29:47 am --- 

as you guys have noted, the v2's are good enough if your not really going out to be doing track days 24/7.

i do remember someone talking about back end bounce?
maybe its something to do with that.


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....V2's, V1's, V3's, KoniFSD's, etc, are all good enough for either road or track or both. As I've said, it's just a matter of which suits your preferred personal balance of handling and comfort. Oh, and I'm forgetting that some people do it just for looks, so I should add cosmetics. I disagree that not doing track days 24/7 means that V3's are a waste - Some of the roads I drive on (whenever I can) are just as testing as a track and far more interesting. In fact, the suspension is sometimes given more of a workout because the road surface is not as smooth as a track.

You've got to be really pushing to get "back end bounce" and the stock GTI has a degree (3 degrees IIRC) of rear end camber adjustment. << EDIT:- I've just realised you probably mean continual vertical back end bounce from having suspension wrongly set up. I thought you meant horizontal bounce or skip.

What will make a difference to lap times on track is having the ability to set up more camber and that adjustability can be added with top mounts. The trade-off then is uneven tyre wear if also used for extensive motorway driving.

This is why I went to VWR - They fitted me a Fast Road suspension which is practical and perfectly set up. I'm not capable of setting up my own suspension to the optimum.

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