All Things Mk5 > Performance Modifications
Brake upgrades (RS4)
Teutonic_Tamer:
--- Quote from: jabbalad on August 24, 2009, 12:38:43 am ---I also changed my brake fluid to some motorsport fluid at the same time which would of also helped too...
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You will ruin your ABS/ESP unit - and get a nasty bill for £1500. Flush it out and put the proper spec VW fluid in.
xxx_mojo_xxx:
--- Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on September 18, 2009, 03:19:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: jabbalad on August 24, 2009, 12:38:43 am ---I also changed my brake fluid to some motorsport fluid at the same time which would of also helped too...
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You will ruin your ABS/ESP unit - and get a nasty bill for £1500. Flush it out and put the proper spec VW fluid in.
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Hi TT,
Are you saying that we should stick with VW spec brake fluid. I was thinking about putting dot 4.1 oil (or something like that).
Please provide a detailed run through...
Thanks in advance. :jumpmove:
Msportman:
--- Quote from: xxx_mojo_xxx on September 18, 2009, 03:58:57 pm ---
--- Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on September 18, 2009, 03:19:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: jabbalad on August 24, 2009, 12:38:43 am ---I also changed my brake fluid to some motorsport fluid at the same time which would of also helped too...
--- End quote ---
You will ruin your ABS/ESP unit - and get a nasty bill for £1500. Flush it out and put the proper spec VW fluid in.
--- End quote ---
Hi TT,
Are you saying that we should stick with VW spec brake fluid. I was thinking about putting dot 4.1 oil (or something like that).
Please provide a detailed run through...
Thanks in advance. :jumpmove:
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No problem whatsoever putting in Motul RB600F fluid. This is a proper fully synthetic motorsport product and gives amazing performance time after time. I've used this in all of my high performance and track car's in the past and currently run this in my Ed30 which has seen a full monty use at Combe in July. Works very well in conjunction with EBC Yellow's too!!
I ran Tarox on my old APR Stage 3 car and had more track use than hot dinners....Carbon Corsa pads were excellent on the 6 pot kit. 330mm discs and bells were expensive to replace though!
Where are the RS4 brakes available for less than £1400??
Is that without VAT?
Are they a 2 piece set up?
Seems very cheap :confused:
Teutonic_Tamer:
--- Quote from: xxx_mojo_xxx on September 18, 2009, 03:58:57 pm ---
--- Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on September 18, 2009, 03:19:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: jabbalad on August 24, 2009, 12:38:43 am ---I also changed my brake fluid to some motorsport fluid at the same time which would of also helped too...
--- End quote ---
You will ruin your ABS/ESP unit - and get a nasty bill for £1500. Flush it out and put the proper spec VW fluid in.
--- End quote ---
Hi TT,
Are you saying that we should stick with VW spec brake fluid. I was thinking about putting dot 4.1 oil (or something like that).
--- End quote ---
Yup, you really do need to stick with the genuine VW brake fluid - or a fluid which has been approved by VW to the 501.14 standard. 'Normal' DOT 4 fluid is NOT good enough. The fluid will be too 'thick', and at best will cause your ABS and ESP to work sluggishly, and at worst, completely fcuk up the ABS/ESP unit. And this isn't some kind of 'scare tactic'. The Golf uses an inferior Teves ESP unit, and these are exceedingly well known for fcuking up and landing the owners with a £1500 bill. It is for this very reason, that VW now demand that ONLY 501.14 fluid is used - if it isn't used, they will deny warranty cover for the ABS/ESP unit.
HTH
Teutonic_Tamer:
--- Quote from: Msportman on September 18, 2009, 04:50:43 pm ---
--- Quote from: xxx_mojo_xxx on September 18, 2009, 03:58:57 pm ---
--- Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on September 18, 2009, 03:19:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: jabbalad on August 24, 2009, 12:38:43 am ---I also changed my brake fluid to some motorsport fluid at the same time which would of also helped too...
--- End quote ---
You will ruin your ABS/ESP unit - and get a nasty bill for £1500. Flush it out and put the proper spec VW fluid in.
--- End quote ---
Hi TT,
Are you saying that we should stick with VW spec brake fluid. I was thinking about putting dot 4.1 oil (or something like that).
Please provide a detailed run through...
Thanks in advance. :jumpmove:
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No problem whatsoever putting in Motul RB600F fluid.
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Huh, how can you say that? That fluid does NOT comply with the required VW standard! Or are you going to cough up everyone elses bills when it toasts their ESP unit? :stupid:
--- Quote from: Msportman on September 18, 2009, 04:50:43 pm ---This is a proper fully synthetic motorsport product and gives amazing performance time after time. I've used this in all of my high performance and track car's in the past and currently run this in my Ed30 which has seen a full monty use at Combe in July. Works very well in conjunction with EBC Yellow's too!!
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I'm NOT doubting its 'motorsport' credentials! However, I bet that 99.9% of all 'big brake' or brake upgraders on this forum still use their car on the road, and still have the OEM ABS/ESP unit fitted. But the Motul RBF is specifically designed for motorsport applications, where ABS/ESP is banned - so the viscosity is not an issue. Furthermore, the Motul RBF isn't that much better than the standard VW OEM fluid, which itself is an exceedingly high quality fluid, and out performs many 'so-called' 5.1 fluids
Motul RBF 600: wet boil: 216degC
VW fluid: wet boil: 172degC - which is way better than many specialist products, including Mintex, Vavloline, AP Racing (at a shocking 151degC)
But if you genuinely want a top notch motorsport fluid, then you really should be using Castrol SRF, which has a stonking 270degC wet boil. :wink:
--- Quote from: Msportman on September 18, 2009, 04:50:43 pm ---Where are the RS4 brakes available for less than £1400??
Is that without VAT?
Are they a 2 piece set up?
Seems very cheap :confused:
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Huh, you lost me on that?
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