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Janner_Sy:
I had always been a big member of the FWD is more fun the Haldex AWD club.

Now ive driven plenty of K04 FWD cars that are very heavily modified with practically every chassis and engine mod and IMO it is no more fun than the Golf R that APR loaned me.  Both are excellent to drive, both corner like they are on rails but their is one massive difference.

Even a very heavily modified FWD struggles with traction despite good tyres, and a great chasis setup even with an LSD and semi slick tyres to try and tame the power.  The Golf R however has absolutely no traction issues at all despite being on average road tyres.  

All the Golf had was the Race Haldex kit in 'road' mode and the AST coilovers.  Everything else was stock.  The speed and grip you could get around an empty roundabout is immense, and thats not even the best bit.  Theres the exit speed because your on full power soooo much earlier.

I agree the FWD might seem more nimble and probably quicker in the dry, but at Stage 2+ levels of power its to much for the wheels unless you use really sticky tyres and are pretty gentle with the throttle and then of course if theres a hint of dampness or its cold....well IMO its no contest, a haldex powered car is faster in the twisties.  Power is no god if it just spins away.

RedRobin:

--- Quote from: Janner_Sy on April 20, 2012, 04:25:19 pm ---
I agree the FWD might seem more nimble and probably quicker in the dry, but at Stage 2+ levels of power its to much for the wheels unless you use really sticky tyres and are pretty gentle with the throttle and then of course if theres a hint of dampness or its cold....well IMO its no contest, a haldex powered car is faster in the twisties.  Power is no good if it just spins away.


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....I very much agree with so much of what you are saying about power being no good without traction etc. BUT.... Recently I had a drive-to-the-max against a Golf R on about 8 miles of B-road twisties and he could not shake me off and believe me he was trying. I hasten to add that I maintained a constant good braking distance and wasn't tailgating him. As you know, my GTI's handling is very well sorted and includes a LSD. However, on another occasion on the same road, I simply couldn't stay near a AWD Nissan Pulsar GTiR < That was no contest in the Pulsar's favour.

Janner_Sy:
You have a very good balance of power to chassis mods so its the perfect setup as you havent got 360 horses trying to spin the tyres up.  That said with your power mods id expect you to have the legs on a Golf R in a straight line anyway.  Add the brakes and chassis mods and the weight difference im not surprised you kept up.

He probably wasnt to chuffed though  :grin:

RedRobin:

--- Quote from: Janner_Sy on April 20, 2012, 06:00:35 pm ---
You have a very good balance of power to chassis mods so its the perfect setup as you havent got 360 horses trying to spin the tyres up.  That said with your power mods id expect you to have the legs on a Golf R in a straight line anyway.  Add the brakes and chassis mods and the weight difference im not surprised you kept up.

He probably wasnt to chuffed though  :grin:


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....Yes, he didn't give a friendly wave (as I would have done) when he turned off. I've come across him before on straight dual carriageway but I laid off before going into licence losing territory. He started it though. His Golf R is probably standard and I usually have about 270 horses but only 245 at that time.

But as I say, the AWD Pulsar was simply stunning! I don't know what '4WD' transmission system they use.

Jussa:

--- Quote from: RedRobin on April 20, 2012, 06:11:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: Janner_Sy on April 20, 2012, 06:00:35 pm ---
You have a very good balance of power to chassis mods so its the perfect setup as you havent got 360 horses trying to spin the tyres up.  That said with your power mods id expect you to have the legs on a Golf R in a straight line anyway.  Add the brakes and chassis mods and the weight difference im not surprised you kept up.

He probably wasnt to chuffed though  :grin:


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....Yes, he didn't give a friendly wave (as I would have done) when he turned off. I've come across him before on straight dual carriageway but I laid off before going into licence losing territory. He started it though. His Golf R is probably standard and I usually have about 270 horses but only 245 at that time.

But as I say, the AWD Pulsar was simply stunning! I don't know what '4WD' transmission system they use.

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Those Pulsar's are rapid when they're standard, I think a 0-60 time of 5 secs, but they are are very rarely standard, so I imagine you came across a modded one which would have been like $hit off a shovel!!!!

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