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Dp_Ed30:
To cover R&D for a start.

The 2 cara you used as a example are both old cars with old tech.

End of the day I know they cost a lotmof money but the product has shown gains and people will buy it

muckipup:
I have to say that I struggle with pricing too but have to get over it quickly as modding is sometimes incompatible with rational thought and financial sense  :laugh: :laugh:

Tamiyoman:

--- Quote from: Dp_Ed30 on May 03, 2012, 03:37:02 pm ---To cover R&D for a start.

The 2 cara you used as a example are both old cars with old tech.

End of the day I know they cost a lotmof money but the product has shown gains and people will buy it

--- End quote ---

I dont think R & D is anything to do with it, the price does not decrease as the R & D is paid for does it?  :P (Like TV's and new electrical goods), I agree getting the MAF scaling is to do with R & D the rest is to do with marketing and what they can charge and get away with, it's more likely like the Re-maps, it's proven that people will pay for it especially if it has a brand name attached to it that people know/like  :grin:, this is more marketing than R & D.

If a product from company A is proved shown to give 15bhp and the product from B is proved shown to give 17-19 bhp they can price it how they like  :signLOL: as the willy wavers will be all over it  :popcornsoda:

Personally I agree that most of them are over-priced for what they are, it is part of the reason I did not buy one of the mainstream high priced products available.

APR's latest claim of 30bhp on the Golf R seems a little high to me, Its easy to push the engine to the limit on std airbox and then slap on "their" new amazing product
and lo and behold its gives massive figures........... :surprised:

Dp_Ed30:
Agreed re: pushing the limits on stock air box and chucking on the intake on but remember the golf r is a relatively mildly tuned car in the sense it it still on stock turbo and it running just bolt ons that any of us can buy for our own cars.

Like I said I'm planning on giving the intake a go, yes it's expensive but when a tank of petrol is £80 what's a extra £150 to get e kit that you want  :P

And before any body says anything yes I am a tart and engine back looks to make a difference  :P

RedRobin:

--- Quote from: Tamiyoman on May 03, 2012, 03:54:19 pm ---
I dont think R & D is anything to do with it, the price does not decrease as the R & D is paid for does it?  :P (Like TV's and new electrical goods), I agree getting the MAF scaling is to do with R & D the rest is to do with marketing and what they can charge and get away with, it's more likely like the Re-maps, it's proven that people will pay for it especially if it has a brand name attached to it that people know/like  :grin:, this is more marketing than R & D.

If a product from company A is proved shown to give 15bhp and the product from B is proved shown to give 17-19 bhp they can price it how they like  :signLOL: as the willy wavers will be all over it  :popcornsoda:

Personally I agree that most of them are over-priced for what they are, it is part of the reason I did not buy one of the mainstream high priced products available.

APR's latest claim of 30bhp on the Golf R seems a little high to me, Its easy to push the engine to the limit on std airbox and then slap on "their" new amazing product
and lo and behold its gives massive figures........... :surprised:


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....Oh good! That's better - Something I don't agree with you on again at last  :happy2:

We can debate this until the cows come home but I do think that rather than dismiss products just because they are offered by a mainstream established company (as you seem to be doing) is unjustifiable and narrows down your options.

Personally, choosing products from a known brand gives me a lot of confidence based on what that brand represents. Hence my choice of APR over Autotech HPFP, just for example.

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