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JKM Dyno-Day - Saturday 27th October....
Statller-Stevo:
--- Quote from: GrayMK5GTI on October 30, 2012, 12:15:09 pm ---
--- Quote from: RedRobin on October 30, 2012, 12:04:50 pm ---^^^^
When on the same day, a completely stock Mk5 GTI plots 199 bhp and a completely stock Ed30 plots 229 bhp, surely that doesn't indicate that JKM's Dyno-Dynamics is a "low reader" but suggests that SOME others around the country might be biassed as 'high readers'. Though of course, conditions vary every day and generally rolling-road sessions are only a snapshot at the time.
No-one wants to take away how clever Nick at R-Tech has been but the plots on James' car are very extreme. A conversion to '4WD' has been mentioned, surely for improved driveability reasons.
If, on this occasion, Statller/R-Tech's dyno numbers match with JKM's on the same car, then that is at least reassuring to all concerned. :happy2:
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James has all the bits for the 4WD conversion at home :wink:
When I was out on the passenger ride, James explained how drivable it is with the linear map (the "tabletop" like power curve suggests this isnt a "peaky" power delivery), combined with the response of the K04, although you can't fully utilise WOT until doing motorway speeds, its smooth and drivable around town (although his paddle clutch is a bit hardcore :grin:).
Nick has used James's as a development car, but could re-create the setup on anone elses :happy2:
Surely this setup is a great alternative to a hybrid K04, and fills the gap in the market between standard K04 setup and LOBA?
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Absolutely , & If James needs any help with the 4WD parts tell him to call me I may be able to help him out :wink:
flashp:
--- Quote from: RedRobin on October 30, 2012, 12:04:50 pm ---^^^^
When on the same day, a completely stock Mk5 GTI plots 199 bhp and a completely stock Ed30 plots 229 bhp, surely that doesn't indicate that JKM's Dyno-Dynamics is a "low reader" but suggests that SOME others around the country might be biassed as 'high readers'. Though of course, conditions vary every day and generally rolling-road sessions are only a snapshot at the time.
No-one wants to take away how clever Nick at R-Tech has been but the plots on James' car are very extreme. A conversion to '4WD' has been mentioned, surely for improved driveability reasons.
If, on this occasion, Statller/R-Tech's dyno numbers match with JKM's on the same car, then that is at least reassuring to all concerned. :happy2:
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Just measure your car on the same dyno every time.
rtechniki:
--- Quote from: Janner_Sy on October 30, 2012, 09:37:02 am ---
--- Quote from: Janner_Sy on October 29, 2012, 05:57:58 pm ---
--- Quote from: GrayMK5GTI on October 28, 2012, 07:44:48 pm ---
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,46771.msg628009.html#msg628009
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Its impressive, no doubting that, BUT surely WHEELSPIN!!!!!!!!!!!
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--- Quote from: richwig83 on October 29, 2012, 06:18:54 pm ---Surely wheels spin would result in a flat spot on the graph?
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You misunderstood me. I wasnt insinuating that the figures are due to wheel spin.
I was thinking along the lines of over 450 Lbft and only 2wd as a road car....WHEELSPIN!!!!!!!!!!!
great figures or not, I cant see that being as drivable as some of the others. As impressive as the figures are, i think id want less aggressive midrange
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LOL got ya, :smiley:
Under 100% throttle then its utter madness but in a good way which gives grin factor 10 :laugh: The car is mapped using a unique 1:1 linear throttle map with, linear progressive load control vs rpm which is open loop control for the boost and N75, but for full load the ecu reverts to closed loop boost control.. You will skocked how easy it is to drive and use all the power, even powering out of bends in 3rd at 70% throttle it dont feel like it wants to head for a ditch, or understeer into the path of oncoming traffic. Its only as aggressive as you want it to be.. :driver:
James's was the TFSI is have used our new TIV mapping style which ditches some of the ecus torque interventions to allow for a faster ramp rate on the load and on its own merits gained 50lbft.
Sunglasses Ron:
The reason that James' car is making so much power is nothing to do with Nick's mapping skills. It's because James has all my old hardware parts off my ED30 when I got rid of it... :P :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:
Oli:
--- Quote from: h4rdy on October 29, 2012, 04:28:17 pm ---
--- Quote from: Oli on October 28, 2012, 09:07:47 pm ---Does anyone know what the difference between the Ed30 engine and the ED35? As my stage 1 ED35 makes nearly the same power/torque as my old stage 2 ED30 did. It feels just as fast from my bum dyno, but then there is only 5 bhp differnce, the Ed30 being run at SRR and obviously the ED35 at JKM.
Cheers in advance
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Oli are you not selling your '35 now?
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Yes, its up for sale, but if it doesnt sell for the right amount, I dont think Ill be too bothered. Im feeling the love after finding 300 horses from stage 1. Thinking of upgrading tyres, and maybe stage 2 if it doesnt sell...........
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