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Re: Okada Projects. Plasma Direct ignition coils.
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2012, 10:58:10 am »

Was the mapping calibrated to reap the benefits Rich?

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Re: Okada Projects. Plasma Direct ignition coils.
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2012, 10:59:41 am »
@ Rich, Pretty much what I would have expected to see.  :happy2:

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Re: Okada Projects. Plasma Direct ignition coils.
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2012, 11:00:37 am »
Mike... i would have thought @ ~200bhp its on stock software.

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Re: Okada Projects. Plasma Direct ignition coils.
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2012, 11:12:52 am »
No mention of special calibration being needed on the Okada website: -

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PLASMA DIRECT (PAT)
 
A revolution in ignition technology!!
The Plasma Direct is the ignition coil with a high power amplifier built in to it.
The Plasma Directs produce 4 times more spark energy than stock coils and also generate an ultra fast multi spark discharge of 10 sparks up to highest RPM.
The spark amperage is increased 100%, allowing the spark to reach many more molecules and therefore accelerate the ignition and combustion process. This is extremely important in forced induction applications but also improves the performance of normally aspirated engines.
 
The Plasma Direct will increase horsepower and torque throughout the entire rpm range. This upgrade will also reduce fuel consumption. Even the engines with a legendary smoothness will be further refined with the Plasma Direct upgrade. Our Plasma Directs are OBD II compliant.
 
Installation is easy. Direct bolt-in to the engine, no splicing or cutting into stock wiring, simply replace the stock coils with our Plasma Direct Coils and ready to go!
 
Plasma Direct is made to a specific application. Please check Application chart to find the correct model for your car.

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Re: Okada Projects. Plasma Direct ignition coils.
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2012, 11:19:15 am »

Both Statller Steve and apr Keith were saying calibration (of the timing iirc) would get the most from them

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Re: Okada Projects. Plasma Direct ignition coils.
« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2012, 11:25:13 am »
^^^ Yep I understand that Mike, but if the manufacturer is making claims based on no calibration changes it makes me think these are heading towards the snake oil category.

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Re: Okada Projects. Plasma Direct ignition coils.
« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2012, 11:29:41 am »

Subscribed to see the dyno results.

They want to be good for circa £500 :surprised:


....Yep, that's around the cost of a remap.


Not sure it's fair to compare a software upgrade to a hardware upgrade.

Really the best way to think of a comparison is other hardware mods around the same price range. I would imagine a decent intake is around £400 and a upgraded downpipe and sports cat might be around £500 odd. What quantified gains would they give compared to the coils. I think the Okada coils are more than just getting more power out of the engine, I believe they may help with better engine running and a healthier motor in general.

I haven't had a chance yet to test the coils as have been out of the country quite a bit of recent. I would like to get the coils on mikes Cupra and thinking I should sort out my fuelling issues on my K03 to get a proper gauge of their true potential. For the comparison of OEM vs Okada project coils, my OEM coilpacks have done about 4K miles since I got them all replaced before my remap at the end of last year. I think these would be a good enough test set?

I heard on a Stock TTRS engine they made around 15bhp improvement but am yet to see a dyno sheet.

^^^ Yep I understand that Mike, but if the manufacturer is making claims based on no calibration changes it makes me think these are heading towards the snake oil category.

Thinking about it that is a fair point. But they have been said they get gains from changing the timing settings. They can run richer than OEM coils and give better power as the spark is much stronger.

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Re: Okada Projects. Plasma Direct ignition coils.
« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2012, 11:32:59 am »


As test on a A4 2.0TFSI.

So £500 for 1bhp and 3lb/ft (which I could get from a £40 panel filter!)

Where do I sign  :grin:

As I said in another thread I think these fix a problem that doesn't exist a la the forge actuator :laugh:
« Last Edit: August 07, 2012, 11:34:51 am by vRS Carl »

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Re: Okada Projects. Plasma Direct ignition coils.
« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2012, 11:34:41 am »
So £500 for 1bhp and 3lb/ft (which I could get from a £40 panel filter!)

Where do I sign  :grin:

 :grin:

Will get some dyno runs on the go and can make some decisions from there  :smiley:

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Re: Okada Projects. Plasma Direct ignition coils.
« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2012, 11:36:49 am »
^^^ Yep I understand that Mike, but if the manufacturer is making claims based on no calibration changes it makes me think these are heading towards the snake oil category.

 :happy2:  I'm not sold, I'm just hopeful that there will be some proof in he pudding.

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Re: Okada Projects. Plasma Direct ignition coils.
« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2012, 11:44:36 am »
^^^ Yep I understand that Mike, but if the manufacturer is making claims based on no calibration changes it makes me think these are heading towards the snake oil category.

 :happy2:  I'm not sold, I'm just hopeful that there will be some proof in he pudding.


Well let me know when your around Mike and can make a trip up to test these out on the Cupra.

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Re: Okada Projects. Plasma Direct ignition coils.
« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2012, 12:04:20 pm »
So £500 for 1bhp and 3lb/ft (which I could get from a £40 panel filter!)

I'm as equally likely to not buy a panel filter at £40 as I am to spend £500 on Okada Plasma Coils.  :laugh:

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Re: Okada Projects. Plasma Direct ignition coils.
« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2012, 12:24:06 pm »
Carl and Hedge, as usual you are being very narrow minded about this. You are completey missing out the fact that they look very nice, and the price is not for 1, but 4 nice looking coils.  :pomppomp:

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Re: Okada Projects. Plasma Direct ignition coils.
« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2012, 12:41:41 pm »
Carl and Hedge, as usual you are being very narrow minded about this. You are completey missing out the fact that they look very nice, and the price is not for 1, but 4 nice looking coils.  :pomppomp:

Where do i sign?  :signLOL:

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Re: Okada Projects. Plasma Direct ignition coils.
« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2012, 12:56:41 pm »
Sorry Mr  Cat.  :ashamed: