Make a donation

Author Topic: VWR / Vibratechnics 'Fast Road' Lower Engine Mount - Review....  (Read 78127 times)

Offline RedRobin

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 379
  • -Receive: 442
  • Posts: 16625
  • BIALI Motorsport's Chief Horn Blower
Re: VWR Dogbone 'Fast Road' Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2009, 01:13:49 pm »

Sounds like its working well, has it passed the acid test for wheel hop??


....Wheel hop on my GTI has been a thing of the past for some time - The combination of my suspension mods and possibly the Quaife have totally sorted such inclinations.

:happy2:


On facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robin.procter.50

Throbbin' Red Mk5 GTI DSG with too many mods to list - Have Fun but Safe Journeys!

Offline Teutonic_Tamer

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 88
  • -Receive: 95
  • Posts: 1827
  • GreasedMonkey - HoofHearted - GTI now mod'ed!
Re: VWR Dogbone 'Fast Road' Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2009, 05:26:24 pm »
Also, a full set of mounts are needed less on a DSG car as a Manual puts through stronger physical stresses/forces.

Don't agree with that in the slightest.  When the clutch is fully engaged, be that in a manual or in the DSG, the torque reaction will be identical.
Sean - Independant Automotive Engineering Technician (ret'd)
------
07 Golf5 GTI 5dr (BWA), DSG, colour coded, Revo, WALK, WL ARBs, 235 PS2s, seat drawers, OEM tints, custom/hybrid engine mounts, Audi-esque soundproofing

~~ free official Golf V factory workshop manuals ~~

Offline RedRobin

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 379
  • -Receive: 442
  • Posts: 16625
  • BIALI Motorsport's Chief Horn Blower
Re: VWR Dogbone 'Fast Road' Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2009, 09:42:57 pm »
Also, a full set of mounts are needed less on a DSG car as a Manual puts through stronger physical stresses/forces.

Don't agree with that in the slightest.  When the clutch is fully engaged, be that in a manual or in the DSG, the torque reaction will be identical.

....Let me re-word it for you: The actions of the clutch on the DSG are controlled to be smooth, the actions of a human driver banging out the clutch (in extremis) is not controlled to be smooth and hence less stressful.

That's what I understand from what I've been told.


On facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robin.procter.50

Throbbin' Red Mk5 GTI DSG with too many mods to list - Have Fun but Safe Journeys!

Offline Top Cat

  • Top cat
  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 171
  • -Receive: 335
  • Posts: 8196
  • Almost Jacamo
Re: VWR Dogbone 'Fast Road' Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2009, 09:49:24 pm »

Offline Teutonic_Tamer

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 88
  • -Receive: 95
  • Posts: 1827
  • GreasedMonkey - HoofHearted - GTI now mod'ed!
Re: VWR Dogbone 'Fast Road' Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2009, 02:12:45 pm »
Also, a full set of mounts are needed less on a DSG car as a Manual puts through stronger physical stresses/forces.

Don't agree with that in the slightest.  When the clutch is fully engaged, be that in a manual or in the DSG, the torque reaction will be identical.

....Let me re-word it for you: The actions of the clutch on the DSG are controlled to be smooth, the actions of a human driver banging out the clutch (in extremis) is not controlled to be smooth and hence less stressful.

That's what I understand from what I've been told.

So a manual shift driver dumps the clutch on every gear change????? :stupid:

And a DSG is NEVER used for rapid launches???? :stupid:


I'll state again - a manual clutch and a DSG will be IDENTICAL in their torque reaction!
Sean - Independant Automotive Engineering Technician (ret'd)
------
07 Golf5 GTI 5dr (BWA), DSG, colour coded, Revo, WALK, WL ARBs, 235 PS2s, seat drawers, OEM tints, custom/hybrid engine mounts, Audi-esque soundproofing

~~ free official Golf V factory workshop manuals ~~

Offline RedRobin

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 379
  • -Receive: 442
  • Posts: 16625
  • BIALI Motorsport's Chief Horn Blower
Re: VWR Dogbone 'Fast Road' Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2009, 06:21:13 pm »

So a manual shift driver dumps the clutch on every gear change????? :stupid:

And a DSG is NEVER used for rapid launches???? :stupid:

I'll state again - a manual clutch and a DSG will be IDENTICAL in their torque reaction!


....Agreed that a manual shift driver doesn't always 'dump the clutch' hard but the human actioned gearshift will surely be more prone to abuse.

Also agreed that a DSG isn't never used for rapid launches, but if you mean using Launch Control mine has only been used once in 76k miles and I very rarely action a rapid launch as I prefer to reduce the possibility of wheelspin.

My current thinking is still that there is much more potential for stresses on a manual than a DSG box. I may be proved wrong but that's what I'm led to believe.


On facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robin.procter.50

Throbbin' Red Mk5 GTI DSG with too many mods to list - Have Fun but Safe Journeys!

Offline wigit

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 129
  • -Receive: 42
  • Posts: 1825
    • Email
Re: VWR Dogbone 'Fast Road' Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2009, 11:55:21 pm »
had the vwr fast road dogbone mount fitted in the scirocco last week and got to say really pleased with the results given the vibration is minimal but the end result gets a big thumbs up, anyone worried thinking it may be full on don't worry  :happy2:

Offline yin

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 77
  • -Receive: 18
  • Posts: 420
  • Seat Leon Cupra Tfsi Its nearly a Golf
    • Email
Re: VWR Dogbone 'Fast Road' Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2010, 09:57:42 pm »
had the vwr fast road dogbone mount fitted in the scirocco last week and got to say really pleased with the results given the vibration is minimal but the end result gets a big thumbs up, anyone worried thinking it may be full on don't worry  :happy2:

Whats wheel hop like with just the Dogbone fitted?

Offline Janner_Sy

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 62
  • -Receive: 113
  • Posts: 5392
Re: VWR Dogbone 'Fast Road' Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2010, 11:43:17 pm »
have driven TFSI_mikes a few times(APR stage 2+, kwv3's, and vwr lower mount) and the wheel hop was pretty much non existent in comparison to mine. Stil wheel span lke crazy though

Offline xxx_mojo_xxx

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 39
  • -Receive: 19
  • Posts: 1406
  • MUBster DUBster
    • Project MUBster DUBster Evolution
    • Email
Re: VWR Dogbone 'Fast Road' Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2010, 11:03:41 am »
Do you have to get get a wheel alignment done with the VWR engine mount fitted?

Offline MAT ED30

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 25
  • -Receive: 81
  • Posts: 5728
  • Vwr fan boy
    • Email
Re: VWR Dogbone 'Fast Road' Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2010, 11:40:07 am »
No

Mods yes but way too many to stick in this little box

Offline xxx_mojo_xxx

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 39
  • -Receive: 19
  • Posts: 1406
  • MUBster DUBster
    • Project MUBster DUBster Evolution
    • Email

Offline MAT ED30

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 25
  • -Receive: 81
  • Posts: 5728
  • Vwr fan boy
    • Email
Re: VWR Dogbone 'Fast Road' Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2010, 01:02:16 pm »
any time Mo  :happy2:

Mods yes but way too many to stick in this little box

Offline yin

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 77
  • -Receive: 18
  • Posts: 420
  • Seat Leon Cupra Tfsi Its nearly a Golf
    • Email
Re: VWR Dogbone 'Fast Road' Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2010, 08:59:34 pm »
Thanks looks like just the dogbone will be enough for me  :happy2:

Offline wigit

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 129
  • -Receive: 42
  • Posts: 1825
    • Email
Re: VWR Dogbone 'Fast Road' Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2010, 09:31:32 pm »
yin, under hard acceleration its a vast improvement, yes esp can flick on but it just sorts itself out, its an ideal compromise for me given cars usage, drove the car stock last week and lack of power was offset by how well it behaved, SteveP has been in it and Deacon from here, unfortunately the benefits are lost on most roc owners who just want an awsome car  :wink: