All Things Mk5 > Performance Modifications
Hpfp upgrade
GNJ_Motorsport:
I think it has to be pointed out that Si could post up a dossier of evidence and individuals who have decided that the world revolves around a certain tuner or their parts would attempt to pull it to pieces anyway :signLOL: Much in the same way if I posted Shark software related stuff the APR & REVO knives would be out, a lot of it laughable quite frankly.
It is all a bit sad really. We went to Autosport a few weeks ago and the amount of bitching going on was unreal, like a big episode of Corrie but a load of blokes in their 30/40's that should quite frankly know better. I have said it before, I'll say it again; I will only ever post about what we CAN do and not what others CAN'T DO.
As I said earlier on in the thread, there are a lot of high powered cars running the LOBA pump (Statllers GTI for example) It has been proved to work and does work. If people don't like the secrecy around how they have made it then as blunt as it sounds, don't buy it. Daruis and the guys at LOBA want to keep it to themselves and that is their choice.
Plenty were sold at the old higher price and more will be sold at the new price. Lets not forget that the APR pump has been around a while and was no doubt questioned as well when it was released.
h4rdy:
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--- Quote from: vRSAlex on January 29, 2013, 09:29:13 pm ---Its not like someone could buy a Loba or APR pump, strip it apart and copy it? Could they? :P
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That would be impossible.... AKS fuel pump here we come! :grin:
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I will get some stickers made up! :signLOL:
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On a serious note though if your paying even the cheaper price you want to know what your buying.
I thought long and hard about the Loba but there just wasn't enough information pertaining to what has been done.
APR is a little too expensive for me.
Autotech have been performing well and I got at a very good price.
I'm lucky that I have the facilities and skill set to do a lot myself.
I will add that every time I have emailed Loba I have had a great response, but the fact is I have had to email for more info, not a problem I suppose but it may put some off.
I think they could put more info without giving the whole game away................ :popcornsoda:
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: GNJ_Motorsport on January 30, 2013, 03:30:05 am ---
I think it has to be pointed out that Si could post up a dossier of evidence and individuals who have decided that the world revolves around a certain tuner or their parts would attempt to pull it to pieces anyway :signLOL: Much in the same way if I posted Shark software related stuff the APR & REVO knives would be out, a lot of it laughable quite frankly.
It is all a bit sad really. We went to Autosport a few weeks ago and the amount of bitching going on was unreal, like a big episode of Corrie but a load of blokes in their 30/40's that should quite frankly know better. I have said it before, I'll say it again; I will only ever post about what we CAN do and not what others CAN'T DO.
As I said earlier on in the thread, there are a lot of high powered cars running the LOBA pump (Statllers GTI for example) It has been proved to work and does work. If people don't like the secrecy around how they have made it then as blunt as it sounds, don't buy it. Daruis and the guys at LOBA want to keep it to themselves and that is their choice.
Plenty were sold at the old higher price and more will be sold at the new price. Lets not forget that the APR pump has been around a while and was no doubt questioned as well when it was released.
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....I think that you are overreacting - I don't read anyone in this thread trashing Loba's HPFP by claiming that APR's or Autotech's pump is superior. All I read is many folks asking the same question as h4rdy does..............................
--- Quote from: h4rdy on January 30, 2013, 04:03:02 am ---
On a serious note though if your paying even the cheaper price you want to know what your buying.
I thought long and hard about the Loba but there just wasn't enough information pertaining to what has been done.
APR is a little too expensive for me.
Autotech have been performing well and I got at a very good price.
I'm lucky that I have the facilities and skill set to do a lot myself.
I will add that every time I have emailed Loba I have had a great response, but the fact is I have had to email for more info, not a problem I suppose but it may put some off.
I think they could put more info without giving the whole game away................ :popcornsoda:
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....If Loba want to keep it all so secret then so be it, but they better not expect their big stock which they ordered to enable a reduced price, to fly out of the door like hot cakes.
It's very fundamental, regardless of ANY product automotive or otherwise, prospective buyers want information BEFORE they part with their money.
Until Loba stop playing silly games or explain their attitude more fully, my recommendation to anyone considering upgrading their HPFP would be go APR or if money is limited, buy a brand new unused OEM pump and get the Autotech internals fitted by an expert.
C'mon Loba!! Give your prospective buyers some information!! :rolleye:
rich83:
In reality LOBA probably bought a APR pump... took it apart and copied it. :innocent:
tony_danza:
I may be wrong here, but I believe APR also refuse to release technical information about their pump. They give the headline capabilities and you have to trust it does what they say. Now, we obviously know it does work and works very well - are we to believe they're the only people in the world capable of this?
Now whilst I've never been a fan of the APR marketing technique of doubling the price and then saying everything else cheaper is sh*t - don't necessarily believe that just because something costs less, it is any less well R&D'd and engineered. I can give you a million examples of a cottage industry producing far superior products than the big names, in any chosen field.
If either company want to rubbish each other's product, then leave them to do it between themselves. I don't know LOBA, I don't own anything LOBA, but if things are going to progress to ease dominance by the few, then it's only a good thing for all.
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