All Things Mk5 > Performance Modifications
Who had both Revo and APR and willing to share experience?
AndrewJB:
APR for me (Helps i live round corner from HQ)
Stage2+ Hardware'd car but with Stage1+ mapping at the moment due to broken clutch
If APR wasnt so close i think i wud of gone REVO as Alex @ AKS is a REVO dealer
Tfsi_Mike:
APR here. (Stage 2+ 2.0 Ko4 Tfsi Cupra)
I was considering switching to REVO for a while (when APR presence in the UK dwindled a bit). This was because I felt there was more to be had from my car. But since they returned and setup HQ in Northampton support has been great, the updated map was much better. Very happy with my car atm.
Like Andrew, if APR didn't return and start rebuilding their Uk dealer network I may well have gone REVO via Alex at AKS tuning.
I have a few different files on my car, switchable via my cruise control stalk.
Revo also offer multiple files (you just have to buy a device to plug into your cars diagnostic port, these can be had second hand for 50-70quid I think)
AndrewJB:
Difference for me
APR Upgrade is free (From Stage1, Stage1+ or Stage2 and then Stage2+)
Like Mike says APR offer cruise control swapping of maps (currently not available on my car but will be very soon)
When you do the maths with REVO add on the SPS device and Upgrade prices its alot more
GrayMK5GTI:
--- Quote from: RedRobin on January 23, 2013, 10:37:08 pm ---
--- Quote from: Hedge on January 23, 2013, 10:30:37 pm ---
I've had both. I now have Revo as APR ditched my tuner of choice and I wont have APR again.
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....Yes, I think we both have the same tuner of choice and so I would stay with that tuner too.
However, for someone else I am of the opinion (without direct experience of APR) that the APR remap is worthy of serious consideration as an alternative.
It's a good point you bring up though about the importance of the tuner and not just the map software itself. :happy2:
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I'm no expert but I dont think Revo requires a "tuner" (not sure about APR)- you see SO many garages offering Revo maps these days, all you need is a laptop, a cable, Revo's software and some instructions that revo provide and any Thomas, Richard or Harold can be a Revo "tuner". You upload a base map and then tweak one of the 3 settings as per the instructions they provide - or if possible you can log it (not all places do - Revo @ GTI inters dont). Not really "tuning", more like reprogramming.
Seeing how many people offer this service, I doubt it requires any special training etc and you really dont even need to know anything about the engine, as troubleshooting is fairly basic and probably included in the instruction booklet.
If you want to get the best out of it though, your best going to a garage that knows a decent amount about the TFSI engine, especially as remapping highlights any weakness in the ignition & fuelling systems etc.
As Gaz suggested above if you really want the best out of it, with no constraints, a custom map is the way to go (and will be cheaper than a big brand). :happy2:
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: GrayMK5GTI on January 24, 2013, 12:08:38 pm ---
--- Quote from: RedRobin on January 23, 2013, 10:37:08 pm ---
It's a good point you bring up though about the importance of the tuner and not just the map software itself. :happy2:
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I'm no expert but I dont think Revo requires a "tuner" (not sure about APR)- you see SO many garages offering Revo maps these days, all you need is a laptop, a cable, Revo's software and some instructions that revo provide and any Thomas, Richard or Harold can be a Revo "tuner". You upload a base map and then tweak one of the 3 settings as per the instructions they provide - or if possible you can log it (not all places do - Revo @ GTI inters dont). Not really "tuning", more like reprogramming.
Seeing how many people offer this service, I doubt it requires any special training etc and you really dont even need to know anything about the engine, as troubleshooting is fairly basic and probably included in the instruction booklet.
If you want to get the best out of it though, your best going to a garage that knows a decent amount about the TFSI engine, especially as remapping highlights any weakness in the ignition & fuelling systems etc.
As Gaz suggested above if you really want the best out of it, with no constraints, a custom map is the way to go (and will be cheaper than a big brand). :happy2:
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....I wouldn't be happy to just let any Tom, Dick, or Harry load a Revo map on my car. That is why I drive 90 miles to JKM - They are expert on the 2.0T FSI platform of my car and can do much more than just load the map. They have been able to diagnose and solve any problems and also fine-tune and advise according to my hardware performance mods as they have evolved.
It's a holistic package.....
And a very personal service!..........................
If I was using APR I'd go to APR HQ Milton Keynes.
If I was using GIAC I'd go to Statller.
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