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Questions to those who have VF/VWR engîne mounts installed
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: GTIjames on July 13, 2009, 10:51:15 pm ---
vf also recommend that after a few thousand miles you should go back and get them tightened :happy2:
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....That's a good idea. I'll ask VWR to check/tighten up mine in due course.
Good to learn about the VF's, James :happy2: 8) :happy2:
john_o:
--- Quote from: RedRobin on July 13, 2009, 07:25:30 pm ---
--- Quote from: john_o on July 13, 2009, 07:03:37 pm ---I fitted the dogbone insert , which helped a lot but in no way did it solve my 'engine slop'
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....The insert (Neuspeed/ECS torque arm polythingy) will only help cure 'wheel hop' not 'engine slop'.
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would have to disagree on that point RR.
Wheelhop or the thing we all call wheelhop (!), is a function of the level to which the engine is restrained (via the 3 mounts),the suspension components , the road conditions and tyres etc and the load through them.
For me and indicated by all the tuners the lower gearbox mount is the 'key' mount (as it control fore/aft engine movement/rotation) primarily , which for me is also classed as 'engine slop'
Therefore wheel hop and engine movement are inter-related (to some degree).
Thats not to rule out the influence of the side engine mounts as well.
On my car all 3 engine mounts have been checked by VW and Awesome and stated as 'within tolerance' / 'same as everyone elses'.
However for me the level of movement is unacceptable and still leads to excessive wheel hop if provoked.
There are some pictures on golfmkv.com that prove OE mounts all degrade significantly dependent on usage and mileage very quickly.
From reading all the comments on various forums , I cant help but feel that the 'baseline' position for engine slop/wheelhop is VERY different between cars given the number of variables possible (wear / tyre type /susp changes etc...)
(interestingly its the same as people providing feedback on the best tyres when the cars are very different too ...)
I intend to change the lower mount first for a VWR one then take it from there , I may even consider 2 new side OE mounts (but this may be a false economy)
Ideally I also need to combine this with the VF / BSH solid gearbox bar too!
RedRobin:
^^^^
Thanks John :happy2:
I'm glad to be corrected on that - I prefer not to inadvertantly spread inaccurate information.
Yes, I agree - Various other factors such as suspension mods etc must surely have an influence. It's the package as a whole which matters.
I too might have stayed with just the lower mount as it clearly has the most tangible benefit. However, I am very pleased to now see no engine movement at all and I just lurve that extra Grrrrrrr! sound!
I find the solid gearbox bar very interesting and attractive too, but I find it easier to let VWR support their complete product rather than mix it up.
:drinking:
keith:
--- Quote from: tony_danza on July 13, 2009, 10:25:06 pm ---
--- Quote from: keith on July 13, 2009, 09:59:42 pm ---I could't put up with that so its not a mod i am gonna consider. I did the MKIV dogbone and hated it. I think the novelty would wear of on some folks to.
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Completely different effect, I too had one on the MKIV and took it off in a month. The MKV suffers none of the same problems when upgrading it, but reaps all of the benefits.
The whole fitment and design is different, so it doesn't transmit straight down the chassis. It took 1-2 weeks to bed it in and eliminate the slight trace of vibration on rolling tickover - now there's nothing, I promise.
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Now that sounds better I did think about the Audi S3 ones which I believe are uprated as well?
the mk4 one was real bad.
john_o:
looks like powerflex do a replacement for the 'bush in the bar' (cue hilarious jokes lol) (as well as the traditional dogbone insert)
http://www.powerflex.co.uk/products/Golf+Mk5+1K+inc.+GTI+%26+R32+(2004-)-737/1.html
"Lower Engine Mount Front" £20 which may be a cheaper option that VF/BSH fully solid kits
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