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Nurburgring Trip - 2nd-5th October 09....
jhtrophy:
not sure mate, he is looking at a car today, but knowing him he will go in the ed :signLOL: redline is out though got it this morning
Akira:
So far i'm being refered to Very Cherry mate with the fridge. Far enough :grin:
One question, and everyone going to grumble. Insurance.
My insurance won't cover me for driving round the ring, names Nurburgring in the policy as a no no. What companies will insure you? I know you can get "Track insurance " at the ring, but is that the same thing?
any facts would be useful.
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: Akira on August 22, 2009, 02:51:13 pm ---So far i'm being refered to Very Cherry mate with the fridge. Far enough :grin:
One question, and everyone going to grumble. Insurance.
My insurance won't cover me for driving round the ring, names Nurburgring in the policy as a no no. What companies will insure you? I know you can get "Track insurance " at the ring, but is that the same thing?
any facts would be useful.
--- End quote ---
....Re Ring insurance, Phew! where to begin?
It's very, very tricky. On one hand the German authorities class it as a public toll road (although it's got Armco, red & white track kerbs, and is one-way in a loop) but UK insurers insist it's a track, as indeed it once was and still is when closed to the public for specific race/trackday events.
Even UK insurers who might normally insure you for trackdays, won't cover you on The Ring.
It is world famous for being a difficult circuit and does attract all sorts of drivers, some of whom, shall we say, think they are far better drivers than they actually are and also drive at the limits of their car. Consequently there are statistically a lot of incidents and insurers see a higher risk of their your money.
AFAIK, if you hire a 'Ring prepared car out there, insurance comes included but the whole package isn't cheap.
One of the advantages of going on a trip such as with The Nurburgring Experience (as Hurdy and myself are) is the help infrastructure if things do go pear-shaped. It is more expensive than this forum's DIY trip though.
I'm afraid that most people take the risk but it can be extremely heavy. Not only for the costs of Armco at £30(?) a metre but all the other costs due to the circuit being closed etc etc etc etc and etc. Furthermore, under German law, someone can take you to the cleaners - If you are judged to cause an expensive Porsche or Ferrari to crash, you may find yourself facing personal injury claims and loss of private property claims. The other driver was wearing a £5k watch and it got smashed - Tough titty on you!
You might say you could be up sh!t creek without a paddle.
But...............
RedRobin:
^^^^
I should just add, that at the risk of being called an old git etc, unless you really are very track experienced, don't go for beating lap times (either yours or anyone else's) and don't race other cars. Treat every single bend on every single lap with respect and drive within both your own limits and your car's limits.
I may sound like boring Captain Sensible but you can still have a great time and the experience of a lifetime by going.
Do a 'sight' lap first - That's as passenger in a car preferably similar to your own. It gives you a soft intro to how the circuit is. No amount of Playstation etc laps can be relied on. If you are coming with us, either DIY or Experience, one of us will be happy to give you a passenger ride (I know you wouldn't want to risk one with your mate VC :wink: :evilgrin:)
Akira:
Thanks Red,
some useful points. might be safer all round just to use a track car at the ring, at least you would be covered.
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