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RedRobin:

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--- Quote from: SteveP on September 01, 2009, 09:53:14 am ---
--- Quote from: RedRobin on September 01, 2009, 09:43:07 am ---....

Getting a remap and only buying cat-back is a waste of money. If you remap you'll need a turbo-back (aka Hi-flow+Downpipe) - They compliment each other.

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I don't think that is strictly true Robin.

A stage 1 map and a cat back is a good starting place and gives you the option to get used to the car and then add the downpipe and stage 2 software at a later date.  :happy2:

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^^^^^^^ i completley agree with steve here stage 1 remap and cat back go hand in hand, the remap gives it the go  , the cat back supplies the right noise and the looks , imo this is enough for most , i would nt want any more with out the diff  :happy2:

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....I'm not disagreeing with Steve - My point is simply that if in the longer term you think you would want to go further in your tuning, then it makes more economical sense to go straight for the TBE now rather than pay the extra for swopping parts later.

My understanding is that a TBE will partner better with a Stage1 remap anyway but that it's not critical nor a problem to do otherwise.

candy turbo:
most stage 1 (generic) remap s are designed to work with a standard car  , stage 2 for intakes ,  exhausts etc  :wink:

RedRobin:

--- Quote from: candy turbo on September 02, 2009, 07:41:31 pm ---
most stage 1 (generic) remap s are designed to work with a standard car  , stage 2 for intakes ,  exhausts etc  :wink:


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....Agreed, but they work better with a more free flowing exhaust. Milltek systems are designed to work best with the established tuner's remaps.

Again, my point is longer term planning and economics (not usually something which I'm in the least bit bothered about!).

:happy2:

candy turbo:

--- Quote from: RedRobin on September 02, 2009, 07:53:19 pm ---
--- Quote from: candy turbo on September 02, 2009, 07:41:31 pm ---
most stage 1 (generic) remap s are designed to work with a standard car  , stage 2 for intakes ,  exhausts etc  :wink:


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....Agreed, but they work better with a more free flowing exhaust. Milltek systems are designed to work best with the established tuner's remaps.

Again, my point is longer term planning and economics (not usually something which I'm in the least bit bothered about!).

:happy2:

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well i know custom code stage 1 is primarily for a standard car , imo free flow systems dont make all that much in power terms just make the engine breath easier , i have cat back milltek and have asked several tuners that if i fit the downpipe/cat will i feel much difference and most say NO   

RedRobin:

--- Quote from: candy turbo on September 02, 2009, 08:00:07 pm ---
well i know custom code stage 1 is primarily for a standard car , imo free flow systems dont make all that much in power terms just make the engine breath easier , i have cat back milltek and have asked several tuners that if i fit the downpipe/cat will i feel much difference and most say NO   

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....Exactly. I did say "more free flowing" which means the same as breathe easier :happy2:. I never said anything about power increases.

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