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Been Bitten, the Red Temptress
MAT ED30:
just to add u forget how much all the rubber in the car takes away from the driver to make it comfy :laugh:
QD MBE:
--- Quote from: RedRobin on October 07, 2009, 11:30:17 am ---
--- Quote from: simonskerton on October 07, 2009, 10:19:26 am ---@mike
you'll have to take me out in it again when it is dry and on a better road, would love to see the difference that diff makes then
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....I have found that the Quaife diff makes a noticeable but subtle difference on the road but at Spa on a session of about 15 laps in the wet (with an instructor in my passenger seat) and ESP off, the diff really came into its own. The harder you push it (within limits!) the more it delivers.
I'm like Mat - I love the hardcore feel of a track biassed car. VWR's road-legal track DSG car (Philip's) is awesome :notworthy:. You quickly adapt and get used to the harder feel and noise of a car - People should dump their preconcieved expectations and open their minds to the benefits of taut and tactile. If it doesn't make your back ache or give you a headache then it's fine imo. If wifey doesn't like it, whose car is it? Yours or hers?
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peoples opinions count? the red car gave me a headache, so I didn't like it. VWR changed the suspension due to a lot of questions about the solid suspension, and its suitability for the 'mordern ill maintained road'.
Taut and tactile is great, but allied to today's poor roads, and all you get is a 'bucking bronco' ride, that prevents proper application of the highly prized horsepower, and that is how i viewed the red car. Power is nothing without control, taut with some compliance is a difficult goal, and i felt the red car did not have it. it may have now................... I believe the car now has V3 coils and the ride has changed somewhat since i last drove it earlier this year, v3's were fitted for a reason............
just my opinion, and as always ETTO.
Janner_Sy:
like i said, it was a bit intrusive, probably more than i would like to have in an everyday car. What i would like though is the direct feel of the steering. which id presume come from poly bushes, top mounts, coilovers and arbs.
I already have coilovers(they will be getting uprated though), arbs and walk, so by uprated all the bushes on the front of the car, and putting on the lower engine mount, id like to think id be pretty much there with the feel but minus the vibrations.
@topcat or RR
how have you found torque steer with your LSD, id expect it in the wet on bad roads, but how is it on a normal road in the wet and dry. is there much tugging etc
Greeners:
--- Quote from: stokeballoon on October 07, 2009, 11:50:58 am ---
--- Quote from: RedRobin on October 07, 2009, 11:30:17 am ---
--- Quote from: simonskerton on October 07, 2009, 10:19:26 am ---@mike
you'll have to take me out in it again when it is dry and on a better road, would love to see the difference that diff makes then
--- End quote ---
....I have found that the Quaife diff makes a noticeable but subtle difference on the road but at Spa on a session of about 15 laps in the wet (with an instructor in my passenger seat) and ESP off, the diff really came into its own. The harder you push it (within limits!) the more it delivers.
I'm like Mat - I love the hardcore feel of a track biassed car. VWR's road-legal track DSG car (Philip's) is awesome :notworthy:. You quickly adapt and get used to the harder feel and noise of a car - People should dump their preconcieved expectations and open their minds to the benefits of taut and tactile. If it doesn't make your back ache or give you a headache then it's fine imo. If wifey doesn't like it, whose car is it? Yours or hers?
--- End quote ---
peoples opinions count? the red car gave me a headache, so I didn't like it. VWR changed the suspension due to a lot of questions about the solid suspension, and its suitability for the 'mordern ill maintained road'.
Taut and tactile is great, but allied to today's poor roads, and all you get is a 'bucking bronco' ride, that prevents proper application of the highly prized horsepower, and that is how i viewed the red car. Power is nothing without control, taut with some compliance is a difficult goal, and i felt the red car did not have it. it may have now................... I believe the car now has V3 coils and the ride has changed somewhat since i last drove it earlier this year, v3's were fitted for a reason............
just my opinion, and as always ETTO.
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And to add to this, unless you live next door the either the Nurburgring or the Snake Pass then it's all a bit irrelevant as speed bumps and speed camera's are what you'll be dealing with 99% of the time.
I for one have to consider the daily commute and as such I won't be looking to replicate what the VWR car can deliver at this point. I enjoyed driving it but much prefer my own car for driving on a daily basis.............. :happy2:
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: stokeballoon on October 07, 2009, 11:50:58 am ---
--- Quote from: RedRobin on October 07, 2009, 11:30:17 am ---
You quickly adapt and get used to the harder feel and noise of a car - People should dump their preconcieved expectations and open their minds to the benefits of taut and tactile. If it doesn't make your back ache or give you a headache then it's fine imo. If wifey doesn't like it, whose car is it? Yours or hers?
--- End quote ---
peoples opinions count? the red car gave me a headache, so I didn't like it. VWR changed the suspension due to a lot of questions about the solid suspension, and its suitability for the 'mordern ill maintained road'.
Taut and tactile is great, but allied to today's poor roads, and all you get is a 'bucking bronco' ride, that prevents proper application of the highly prized horsepower, and that is how i viewed the red car. Power is nothing without control, taut with some compliance is a difficult goal, and i felt the red car did not have it. it may have now................... I believe the car now has V3 coils and the ride has changed somewhat since i last drove it earlier this year, v3's were fitted for a reason............
just my opinion, and as always ETTO.
--- End quote ---
....Taut and tactile doesn't automatically mean you'll get a headache. You rode about 1,000 with me to The Ring but I didn't get the impression you were uncomfortable. I've never felt that The Red Temptress was a "bucking bronco" on the occasions I've driven her.
People's thresholds of acceptance are different and I agree that it's very much ETTO.
:happy2:
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