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Re: Battery drain still happening... Completely stumped :(
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2014, 10:45:55 am »
So he did a current drain test from the battery terminal?

I would have thought so. He is one of the best at this kinda thing so I would have thought he would have done that :)

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Re: Battery drain still happening... Completely stumped :(
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2014, 10:51:19 am »
Do you have a multimeter? If so its a piece of piss to whip the negative terminal off and put the meter in series between the neg. terminal on the battery and the neg. clamp. That will tell you 100% if you have a parasitic drain.

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Re: Battery drain still happening... Completely stumped :(
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2014, 11:07:18 am »
So he did a current drain test from the battery terminal?

I would have thought so. He is one of the best at this kinda thing so I would have thought he would have done that :)

If he did it correctly and you had no current drain then it quite clearly points to a faulty battery.
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Re: Battery drain still happening... Completely stumped :(
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2014, 11:20:20 am »
So he did a current drain test from the battery terminal?

I would have thought so. He is one of the best at this kinda thing so I would have thought he would have done that :)

If he did it correctly and you had no current drain then it quite clearly points to a faulty battery.

Well I thought that so I went and changed it to the s5 and it's still happening. So that's 3 different batteries. The original oem one, the excide and the Bosch.

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Re: Battery drain still happening... Completely stumped :(
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2014, 11:31:59 am »
Then there MUST be a current draw from something.
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Re: Battery drain still happening... Completely stumped :(
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2014, 11:34:52 am »
You need to check for battery drain... until you do that and 100% make sure there isnt a drain there is nothing more anyone can do to help you.

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Re: Battery drain still happening... Completely stumped :(
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2014, 11:36:19 am »
Then there MUST be a current draw from something.

It must be intermittent as nothing was drawing power in the time Eddie was testing it. John from the forum still thinks it could even be a faulty boot or door switch or a relay. But as it's intermittent it's very hard to find :/

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Re: Battery drain still happening... Completely stumped :(
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2014, 11:37:35 am »
You need to check for battery drain... until you do that and 100% make sure there isnt a drain there is nothing more anyone can do to help you.

There must be a drain but an intermittent one.

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Re: Battery drain still happening... Completely stumped :(
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2014, 11:41:32 am »
You need to check for battery drain... until you do that and 100% make sure there isnt a drain there is nothing more anyone can do to help you.

There must be a drain but an intermittent one.

Get the mulitmeter out and check  :happy2:

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Re: Battery drain still happening... Completely stumped :(
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2014, 11:45:07 am »
You need to check for battery drain... until you do that and 100% make sure there isnt a drain there is nothing more anyone can do to help you.

There must be a drain but an intermittent one.

Get the mulitmeter out and check  :happy2:

But if it's intermittent how do I do that?

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Re: Battery drain still happening... Completely stumped :(
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2014, 12:05:41 pm »
Keep trying until the fault is current! (No pun intended). By the sounds of it it occurs quite frequently.

Have you a recent full fault code scan or access to VCDS?
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Re: Battery drain still happening... Completely stumped :(
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2014, 12:11:38 pm »
I'd make sure that everything on the canbus network is 100% in sleep mode.

Any single wire faults indicate a can bus system error and will potentially mean certain control units remain in an awake state, which will flatten the battery pretty quickly.

This was done by me and nothing was draining when tested, which I did a couple of times

The unfortunate thing is unless this is done everytime the car is locked you won't know what circuit is draining as the fault is intermittent
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Re: Battery drain still happening... Completely stumped :(
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2014, 12:25:53 pm »
Keep trying until the fault is current! (No pun intended). By the sounds of it it occurs quite frequently.

Have you a recent full fault code scan or access to VCDS?

Monday,03,March,2014,15:48:09:58336
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0
Data version: 20140212

Workshop Code: 210 00152 091233

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W063666   License Plate: CRAIG GTI
Mileage: 191540km-119017mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 1K (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 62 72

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W063666   Mileage: 191540km/119017miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115     HW: 1K0 907 115
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI  00 0070 
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E2580322
   Coding: 0403000318070060
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: E3CF08F322B6D806665-80B6

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 Q    HW: 1K0 907 379 Q
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102 
   Revision: 00T12001   
   Coding: 0004738
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 4085677F1360231EDB7-8015

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 044 AT
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 066 0606 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 79F3CA9B303AB2D6DC9-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 E    HW: 3C0 937 049 E
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002 
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000005085538
   Coding: E58D0F2700041800001400001400000000087F075C
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 2B5F20D38AE6D0461E5-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW350  013  0402 
   Coding: 00065493
   Shop #: WSC 00000 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 T  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RegenLichtSens 011  1110 
   Coding: 00207646
   Shop #: WSC 00000 

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 N    HW: 1K0 909 605 N
   Component: 2F AIRBAG VW8   015 2100 
   Revision: 03015000    Serial number: 0038ED0M7Y8N 
   Coding: 0012870
   Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
   VCID: 37770CA346AE64A66AD-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME0C09616EJ

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME0C07161ED

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME08475C1FJ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME084D2645A

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AF    HW: 1K0 953 549 AF
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 634 0070 
   Coding: 0000012
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 76E9C1A70124DDAEB1B-8023

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K6 920 972
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1212 
   Coding: 0003403
   Shop #: WSC 00011 888 96745
   VCID: EFE774C3FE7E6C66F2D-80BA

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 C    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway H37 0614 
   Revision:   H37       Serial number: 250511F1000734
   Coding: 350003
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 306537BF63C0B39E2B7-8065

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K6 920 972
   Component: IMMO            VDD 1212 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: EFE774C3FE7E6C66F2D-80BA

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2370 
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 366901A741A49DAE71B-8063

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5   D04 1606 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 336F38B352D68886565-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 AR    HW: 1K0 959 433 AR
   Component: 01 KSG PQ35 G2  010 0101 
   Revision: 00010000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 819002085103087F2D04840570085FC690A440
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 8005277FD3E0631E1B7-80D5

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder No Answer     

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  005 0003

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 177 A
   Component: Innenraumueberw.005 0202

1 Fault Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 47
                    Mileage: 191542 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:05:40


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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 3C0-035-456.lbl
   Part No: 1K6 035 456
   Component: 08K Audioverst.     0003 
   Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 00000000034819
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: E9D31ADBC09A8256AC9-80BC

2 Faults Found:
00876 - Treble Speaker Rear Left (R14)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00877 - Treble Speaker Rear Right (R16)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2370 
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 37770CA346AE64A66AD-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 195     HW: 3C8 035 195
   Component: Radio RCD510  040 0166 
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z3I5445758
   Coding: 0101000001
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: E5CB16EBEC82A636881-80B0

1 Fault Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna
            007 - Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100111
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 47
                    Mileage: 191542 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:20:32


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2429 
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 336F38B352D68886565-8066

1 Fault Found:
00937 - Switch for Electric Window; Rear Left (E52)
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2429 
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 346D3BAF57D88FBE4FF-8061

No fault code found.

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Re: Battery drain still happening... Completely stumped :(
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2014, 12:26:27 pm »
Was there no "drive battery voltage" or "alternator df signal" faults stored?
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Re: Battery drain still happening... Completely stumped :(
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2014, 12:29:16 pm »
Was there no "drive battery voltage" or "alternator df signal" faults stored?

Im not too sure mate :/ Eddie did the scan and I haven't a clue about scanning etc...