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Offline 18Edition30

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As above, APR stg2+, all the usual mods!

Will I really see a great difference bolting an alloy S3 cooler on?

 Is it worth the extra cash and fitting of it?

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Re: Am I really going to see great benefits from an uprated intercooler?
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2014, 07:53:34 pm »

I thought a cooler was one of the pre requisites of 2+? 

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Re: Am I really going to see great benefits from an uprated intercooler?
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2014, 08:11:48 pm »

I thought a cooler was one of the pre requisites of 2+? 

It's the last thing left to do.

When they logged it after the mapping, the intake temps were at an acceptable level.

I think its optional but not mandatory.

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Re: Am I really going to see great benefits from an uprated intercooler?
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2014, 08:15:43 pm »

Fair do's  :happy2:  it will surely help maintain and further lower those 'acceptable levels' especially during prolonged heavy right foot use  :driver:

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Re: Am I really going to see great benefits from an uprated intercooler?
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2014, 08:57:35 pm »

Fair do's  :happy2:  it will surely help maintain and further lower those 'acceptable levels' especially during prolonged heavy right foot use  :driver:

Yeh there acceptable but could be lower.

Just unsure wether a s3 cooler would make that much worthy difference over my standard one?

Or is it best to go THS etc etc?

U got one mike?

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Re: Am I really going to see great benefits from an uprated intercooler?
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2014, 09:07:28 pm »


I have the APR cooler  :happy2:  The THS is the more affordable option.  I was quoted £585 for a THS.  :happy2:

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Re: Am I really going to see great benefits from an uprated intercooler?
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2014, 10:53:20 pm »

Fair do's  :happy2:  it will surely help maintain and further lower those 'acceptable levels' especially during prolonged heavy right foot use  :driver:

Yeh there acceptable but could be lower.

Just unsure wether a s3 cooler would make that much worthy difference over my standard one?

Or is it best to go THS etc etc?

U got one mike?

I'd recommend the THS cooler over the S3. All sorts of info, comparisons and links re THS, S3 and the OEM one, Reply #100......

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,76801.90.html

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Re: Am I really going to see great benefits from an uprated intercooler?
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2014, 12:34:50 pm »
I've already got an S3 cooler on mine and will be going S2+ later on this week. I was debating to go Wagner, but I think I'm going to start saving for a Golf R and go to town on that instead  :innocent:
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Re: Am I really going to see great benefits from an uprated intercooler?
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2014, 01:05:05 pm »
im running the S3 cooler on mine at stage 2+ and runs fine
would the wagner or ths be worth it for a few more ponies?
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Re: Am I really going to see great benefits from an uprated intercooler?
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2014, 11:55:00 am »
Yeah, whilst I've already got S3, maybe not, but if I had a stock one, then I'd probably upgraded, S3 will suffice  :evilgrin:
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Re: Am I really going to see great benefits from an uprated intercooler?
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2014, 11:57:22 am »
An efficient intercooler design can give the benefit 5% to 10% more power and resisit heat soak for longer, so you will see benefits its just deciding which 1 you wanna go with. :happy2:
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Re: Am I really going to see great benefits from an uprated intercooler?
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2014, 12:18:59 pm »
a few years ago me and Mike did some back to back logging of our cars in Chatham (Mine: Stage 2+ K03 TFSI on stock IC and Mikes Stage 2+ K04 with APR Cooler) on a warm day.  Tthe stock IC was terrible in comparison iirc mikes car was running around 50oC cooler, and more importantly his IATs recovered back to normal really fast, whereas my stock cooler took an age to recover

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Re: Am I really going to see great benefits from an uprated intercooler?
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2014, 12:44:28 pm »
a few years ago me and Mike did some back to back logging of our cars in Chatham (Mine: Stage 2+ K03 TFSI on stock IC and Mikes Stage 2+ K04 with APR Cooler) on a warm day.  Tthe stock IC was terrible in comparison iirc mikes car was running around 50oC cooler, and more importantly his IATs recovered back to normal really fast, whereas my stock cooler took an age to recover

Good test Sy!

In the winter though, i'd imagine the stock intercooler copes fine when air temps are around freezing?

@OP intercooler wont help your figures on the dyno as dyno fans are usually enough to keep the inlet temps low, although a free-er flowing IC will give a few horses.  It really is on the road & track (especially)where the IC helps :happy2:
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Re: Am I really going to see great benefits from an uprated intercooler?
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2014, 03:30:16 pm »
a few years ago me and Mike did some back to back logging of our cars in Chatham (Mine: Stage 2+ K03 TFSI on stock IC and Mikes Stage 2+ K04 with APR Cooler) on a warm day.  Tthe stock IC was terrible in comparison iirc mikes car was running around 50oC cooler, and more importantly his IATs recovered back to normal really fast, whereas my stock cooler took an age to recover

Good test Sy!

In the winter though, i'd imagine the stock intercooler copes fine when air temps are around freezing?

@OP intercooler wont help your figures on the dyno as dyno fans are usually enough to keep the inlet temps low, although a free-er flowing IC will give a few horses.  It really is on the road & track (especially)where the IC helps :happy2:

When you consider they tuners say for every 1oC raised in the IAT you lose 1Hp, I was losing nearly 50Hp after every single 3rd gear WOT pull to the redline, and those temps took around 5 minutes of gentle driving to recover to the normal temp. so 5 minutes of around 50hp less to play with.