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RNS-510 retrofit problems
mclovin:
Hi Guys,
So, I've been lurking about here for a while but haven't really started posting up until now because so far I've done very little with my GTI apart from drive it. Anyway, I've finally got round fitting a few new toys, the first of which is a RNS-510 which will be the new heart of my in-car entertainment.
Before I touch the MDI, Bluetooth, amp and speakers I thought it best to do a dry run over the weekend, taking out all the Alpine aftermarket stuff that was previously fitted to the car and sticking in the RNS-510 by itself. Now, I thought this was going to be pretty much plug-and-play but it seems I was wrong. The most obvious issue was that I was getting no information displayed on the MFD cluster, but as soon as I plugged in VCDS I noticed that the car was spitting out a load of errors.
I have trawled this site an others and tried every tip and suggestion, it has got me part of the way as I now have Navigation instructions displayed on the MFD, but no radio, media or HDD information, I also still have a persistent fault being thrown up by the navigations system, here's the fault:
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Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.lbl
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 B HW: 1T0 035 680 B
Component: RNS-MID H11 1120
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7J6217153
Coding: 000004000400000200
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
1 Fault Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 12
Mileage: 60413 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 16:28:43
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Yes, navigation is enabled on the CAN-Gateway and yes, I have changed Channel 37 Byte 7 (BAP) - It was enabled, but when I disabled it I got the navigation instructions on the MFD and the compass next to the clock.
I have read somewhere that this might be due to the CAN Gateway being an older version (1K0 907 530 F) and that I might need to upgrade to version L or above, but I thought the only real benefit of this upgrade was to fix the battery drain problem?
The RNS-510 is running firmware version 1100 with V4 maps. I have put off upgrading this until I upgrade the CAN Gateway because of the risk of developing a battery drain problem.
I have, of course, reset the unit several times during this process, but I still have this error and I still don't get any radio/hdd/media information in the MFD display. I also don't get any graphical indication from my parking sensors. Am I missing something really obvious here?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
mclovin:
Okay, so I now have a new CAN-BUS Gateway, this is what it looks like:
This is one of the new "AD" units, interesting to note the double label and the the fact that the "S" suffix has been crossed out with magic marker on the top label, but that's how it arrived and the code on both the bottom label and the box clearly has an "AD" suffix, so I figured I'd go ahead and install it.
First of all, the coding string is different than it was on my old "F" version unit, but it wasn't too difficult to figure it all out and recode as appropriate and the new CAN Gateway does show up as an "AD" unit in VAG-COM. The really good news is that the old annoying Navigation fault code has now gone away and now I can access the audio information from the MFD display - Excellent!
stealthwolf:
Silly question but where in the car does this go?
mortygttdi:
SW its above the pedals very hard to get to that way though, the long way but easy way is by taking the wiper motor off and going through the access panel and once you get the access panel off its right in front of you.
Mcloving did you sort the coding out? the easier way to do it is by going into installation list and just ticking what is on your car then deleting te faults that are in the various control modules.
Darren
mclovin:
I accessed the part from under the dash, it isn't that tricky to get to if you are prepared to lie down in the footwell a bit to get a good look at what you're doing. As for the coding, yup, all sorted by myself, the coding string is very different, so I couldn't just copy that over, but I had a copy of the last auto-scan I did with the old gateway and just worked through that to get everything working. There was some trial and error involved but I got there in the end so everything is present and correct and now there are no errors showing at all.
I still have the bluetooth module to install, plus I need to wire in my amp and then there are the MFSW buttons and cruise control to do, so not finished yet, but getting there. I'll write it up and post it here once it's done as I'm spending the time to build a proper plug and play harness for the amp and the bluetooth module and it's about time someone put together a decent guide on how to do that.
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