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rickyzetec-s:
Hi, I've got a low milage(35k) 05 gti with the AXX engine. At the moment I've fitted a k&n typhoon cais, and a stage 1 bluefin.
I know a lot of people will knock, the bluefin, but ive been impressed with it for the cost and accessibility.
My question is, I've got a ebay cheapy down pipe and sports cat to fit, will it still be ok on a stage 1 map, or will a stage 2 map make a significant difference? Thanks, Richard.

dansmith180:
Staying stage 1 would be fine but a map tweak would obviously see you get the best out of it.

The difference between your current map and a stage 2 would be noticeable but not huge, You'd probably see another 5-10bhp and probably the same for torque but it pulls better at the top of the rev range.

Do you plan on going to stage 2+ or more at some point? If you plan on modding further then just leave it until you've done more (like I am) to save paying for another map. If you plan to leave it how it is then it would worth doing at some point.

greygti:
At present your car is probably running no more than 235-240 bhp + 270 lbft , bluefins aren't very good-there very spikey and massively over fuelled,you'd be best off getting a 3" sportcat downpipe and getting it tuned at R-tech and you'll end up with a much more powerful smoother car .....

MC71:
Get shot of the Blufin ASAP, proper kak map.

Yeap im bound to say R-Tech but there's nothing wrong with a REVO linear Stage 1 and 2 maps so consider that option too.

The biggest jump in power is always from stock to Stage 1, after that it's a case of ever increasing amounts of money for ever decreasing increases in power.

Stage 2 is a wee bit of an increase whereas stage 2+ with a Intercooloer, HPFP and decent low cell (or no cat) TBE is where the magic happens and the true potentail of your car is revealed. A map will only be as good as the hardware you add so buy quality items and you'll not go far wrong.

 :happy2:

rickyzetec-s:
Hmmm... Thanks for the replys guys, theres food for thought.
I think at the moment i may just fit the down pipe and leave it at that for now... I don't want to get too carried away with things again(spent over 15k on my last car), I'm going to be keeping the golf as a daily driver, and can afford little time and money on it to modify, hence why I went for bluefin. I originally had the car booked in for a revo map at a local seat dealer, but the wanted the car all day and I couldn't justify leaving it with them all day, especially with someone that I don't know anything about. Bluefin seemed like a solid, reliable, if unspectacular, alternative that could be done on the drive in 10 mins.
:-)

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