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White "Lion" Cupra - DSG converted track car
Shoduchi:
I can try the coils on an harder setting for track. :happy2: Fortunately they're very fast to adjust. :smiley:
bricksnmortar:
Hi Teo,
I'm getting ready to build a race car and wanted to know why did you swap the manual box for DSG? With the exact same config was the DSG any faster around the track?
I need to choose which gearbox and most of the Gti circuit racers in the UK have gone back to manual from DSG.
thanks
teo_parvu:
Hi! Sure it is faster, that's why some TCR cars are using it.
Manual is a lot more fun and involving, but when it comes to pure laptimes, DSG is way better.
bricksnmortar:
Thanks Teo. Jabba in UK told me that racers were going back to manual boxes because of the weight distribution (20kg more over one of the front wheels) so the weight across each wheel isn't as balanced and because the DSG box doesn't engine brake as much so the lap times weren't any faster in the Mk5 gti series. They said guys were even swapping the DSG box to go back to manual when they found it wasn't any faster in laptime so the race winners now were all manuals?
teo_parvu:
In a car this heavy, 20KG more on the front it's close to nothing and you could always balance it by moving the battery in the back. Also with a good AP Racing brake system, engine brake should be neglected, it makes almost no difference other than destabilizing the car without heel and toe downshifts.
I'm still to find a clutch that will work perfectly with 7000 rpm shift and engine brake without overheating in 1-2 really fast laps, after that refusing to get into gear. ;)
DSG is the future, whether we like it or not. With a really good remap it will also do some engine brake, but it will engage rough 1st and reverse. The engagement is hard and direct at 16 or more PSI clutch pressure. :happy2:
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