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Lurching under braking

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Dan_FR:
Sounds quite normal to me under heavy braking. Heavy braking in gear will result in slowing the engine very quickly against a huge rotating mass, with the engine fighting to idle/maintain the revs in a smooth manner. If it didnt do this, every time you lifted off throttle in gear, you would have a huge lurch forward with the sudden and drastic engine braking as opposed to the fairly smooth transition you should have.

If its a much more physical issue, where you can actually feel weight/mass shifting under heavy braking, then i would explore further, checking engine and gearbox mounts, front arm bushes, subframe etc.

AJP:

--- Quote from: rich83 on August 07, 2015, 09:35:52 am ---hmm... strange one...  opcornsoda:

Does the same happen if you brake after youve dipped the clutch?

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Can't say I've tried Rich, but I'll give that a go at some point - I see your thinking.

AJP:

--- Quote from: Dan_FR on August 07, 2015, 10:12:58 am ---Sounds quite normal to me under heavy braking. Heavy braking in gear will result in slowing the engine very quickly against a huge rotating mass, with the engine fighting to idle/maintain the revs in a smooth manner. If it didnt do this, every time you lifted off throttle in gear, you would have a huge lurch forward with the sudden and drastic engine braking as opposed to the fairly smooth transition you should have.

If its a much more physical issue, where you can actually feel weight/mass shifting under heavy braking, then i would explore further, checking engine and gearbox mounts, front arm bushes, subframe etc.

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Agree in principle Dan, although I've never heard the mk5 GTI being described as lurchy... so I think it may well be an underlying issue rather than a characteristic of the car.

I did wonder whether it was flywheel related, then read more about the subframe bolt issue and it kind of makes sense. That, or as you suggest, a worn mount.

May well have a drive over to Statller at some point, see if they can take it for a little diagnostic spin!

AJP:
And cheers for the input by the way guys

grumpy:
Hi,
just wondering, does your car have the whiteline ALK?

I know someone who had the whiteline fitted, he said it became 'grabby' at times and needed lubricating to eliminate what you're describing. I think he used silicone spray on it. A while later he fitted the better designed superpro ALK and no more grabbiness - something to do with a metal collar - and why I went for the superpro kit.

Either way, hope you get it sorted.

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