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Title: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 31, 2014, 01:54:20 pm
I just fitted a new style Cluster (from a 2010 golf plus) into a 2007 Golf GT

Parts required Cluster (Scirocco or Golf Plus)
Adaptor Loom
2x new transponders

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Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: RetroRaz on October 31, 2014, 01:57:06 pm
Legend!

What part number clocks would be needed?
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 31, 2014, 02:04:24 pm
I will have a look and post up some part numbers

I think on early cars they would also require a newer ABS Pump
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: skard on October 31, 2014, 02:05:56 pm
Don't, Ed. I already want the white clocks in the Tig as it is..!

Great work as usual.
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 31, 2014, 04:49:06 pm
Don't, Ed. I already want the white clocks in the Tig as it is..!

Great work as usual.

you know you want colour ones
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: skard on October 31, 2014, 04:51:29 pm
Well, yes.
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Timepillow on October 31, 2014, 05:44:02 pm
OH MY SWEET JESUS!  :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:

You sir are a legend!!! I need these in my car now! I have a 2005 GT TDI what will i need to change?
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 31, 2014, 06:13:06 pm
OH MY SWEET JESUS!  :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:

You sir are a legend!!! I need these in my car now! I have a 2005 GT TDI what will i need to change?

first you need to find out what ABS module you have
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Golf_GT_TDI on October 31, 2014, 07:03:52 pm
Nice job sir :happy2: what is required as regards the wiring adaptor?
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: phillips on October 31, 2014, 07:24:49 pm
Want these in my Jetta TDI  :jumping:
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 31, 2014, 07:25:38 pm
Nice job sir :happy2: what is required as regards the wiring adaptor?

Pin outs are different between the 2x clusters

and the plug is in a different place

So an adaptor has the pin outs OLD > NEW

You could solder some wires to the existing but using the adaptor made it easier
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: v4rley on October 31, 2014, 08:42:23 pm
 :notworthy: great to see you keeping up the mods for us MK5 people!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Timepillow on October 31, 2014, 11:54:19 pm
OH MY SWEET JESUS!  :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:

You sir are a legend!!! I need these in my car now! I have a 2005 GT TDI what will i need to change?

first you need to find out what ABS module you have

Just done a quick scan and my ABS is....

Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl?
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0104 
   Coding: 0023170
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 3A7B2816759A24CE953-806F

Not sure what you wanted to know so I got everything...will this need changing and if so what to?  :innocent:
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Shoduchi on November 01, 2014, 12:52:50 am
A MY09 GT Sport 1.9 TDI has the following:

Would it be compatible?
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: DANBOY66 on November 01, 2014, 07:11:43 am
great mod Eddie  :happy2:

would this eliminate the error code with the newer mk6 climate panels the missing message one ?
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 01, 2014, 08:14:53 am
great mod Eddie  :happy2:

would this eliminate the error code with the newer mk6 climate panels the missing message one ?

I think it would, I've seen a scan of a 2004 golf which had a newer cluster fitted with a late BT mk6 climate panel and it didn't have the missing message fault.
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 01, 2014, 08:17:25 am
OH MY SWEET JESUS!  :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:

You sir are a legend!!! I need these in my car now! I have a 2005 GT TDI what will i need to change?

first you need to find out what ABS module you have

Just done a quick scan and my ABS is....

Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl?
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0104 
   Coding: 0023170
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 3A7B2816759A24CE953-806F

Not sure what you wanted to know so I got everything...will this need changing and if so what to?  :innocent:

That one is too old
 
This one is ok 1K0 907 379 AC
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 01, 2014, 08:17:56 am
A MY09 GT Sport 1.9 TDI has the following:
    Address 03: ABS Brakes       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AD    HW: 1K0 907 379 AD
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H35 0106 
       Revision: 00H35001

    Would it be compatible?
Yes[/list]
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Matto on November 01, 2014, 10:50:28 am
Nice work Ed. Was just thinking I have a MK6 highline cluster in the cupboard. Shame its a petrol version.
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: skard on November 01, 2014, 08:05:11 pm
Don't, Ed. I already want the white clocks in the Tig as it is..!

Great work as usual.

you know you want colour ones

White ones bought for now  :party:
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: xjay1337 on November 02, 2014, 01:12:59 am
Eddie I did PM you but not sure if you got it
I want a (blue needle) R-Line TDI cluster on my Scirocco... It's the Mk6 one so already has a similar dash to the one in your retrofit.

Can you do it?
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: jason_rmh on November 02, 2014, 12:47:48 pm
White ones bought for now  :party:
New or from ebay? Which part number did you go for?
Do you still have a tdi?

Jas
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: skard on November 02, 2014, 12:48:41 pm
For my Tiguan
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 02, 2014, 01:40:00 pm
Eddie I did PM you but not sure if you got it
I want a (blue needle) R-Line TDI cluster on my Scirocco... It's the Mk6 one so already has a similar dash to the one in your retrofit.

Can you do it?

I can fit one, the hard job is finding one
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Timepillow on November 02, 2014, 03:53:39 pm
That one is too old
 
This one is ok 1K0 907 379 AC

Thanks!  :happy2:

Is it hard to change? I know the ABS unit will need to be changed and properly some coding is involved but anything else?
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 02, 2014, 04:24:22 pm
That one is too old
 
This one is ok 1K0 907 379 AC

Thanks!  :happy2:


Is it hard to change? I know the ABS unit will need to be changed and properly some coding is involved but anything else?

Not that hard, coding will be the same. Bleed the brakes and do basic settings with vcds.
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Timepillow on November 02, 2014, 05:34:33 pm
Oh thats great then!  :happy2: :happy2:

Have you got a part number for the Clocks? I can't find any anywhere  :indifferent:
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: skard on November 08, 2014, 03:49:49 pm
Ed coded my new Tiguan cluster and chips remotely. Gives the dash a much fresher look compared to the old red block, which I am increasingly growing bored of  :happy2:

Thanks once again Ed

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fonlinephoties%2Ftiguan%2F6DEB0F34-DD44-4F47-9AD1-7CF95FC0BE00_zpsmbthsap3.jpg&hash=85202215544b66b492100a4af8974398ce0a6489)
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Scottymon on November 08, 2014, 04:14:07 pm
^ Nice.. I know what you mean about the All Red, it's a bit Dot Matrix in era - not something I'll be swapping this side of a different car though tbh.
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: skard on November 08, 2014, 04:22:52 pm
Sadly I am still stuck with the red MFA in my Golf. Our last four cars have had the same ugly screen, might keep this one now, well until I find colour clocks!
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 08, 2014, 04:44:21 pm
Ed coded my new Tiguan cluster and chips remotely. Gives the dash a much fresher look compared to the old red block, which I am increasingly growing bored of  :happy2:

Thanks once again Ed

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fonlinephoties%2Ftiguan%2F6DEB0F34-DD44-4F47-9AD1-7CF95FC0BE00_zpsmbthsap3.jpg&hash=85202215544b66b492100a4af8974398ce0a6489)

Thanks David
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Timepillow on November 09, 2014, 05:54:40 pm
Any word on a part number for the clocks?  :smiley:
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 09, 2014, 07:43:36 pm
any of the below should be ok

RHD and MPH
always check the dials to see where the red line is and check the scaling for MPH

Golf Plus

Diesel
5M0 920 970F
5M0 920 970J
5M0 920 970B
5M0 920 971A
5M0 920 972A
5M0 920 973A
5M0 920 973
5M0 920 980A (Colour Display)

Petrol
5M0 920 970D
5M0 920 970H
5M0 920 971
5M0 920 980 (Colour Display)
5M0 920 972
5M0 920 973

Scirocco Clusters

Diesel
1K8 920 972A
1K8 920 980A (Colour Display)
1K8 920 973A
1K8 920 983A (Colour Display)


Petrol
1K8 920 972
1K8 920 972D (Scirocco R)
1K8 920 973
1K8 929 973B (Scirocco R)
1K8 920 980 (Colour Display)
1K8 920 980D (Scirocco R Colour Display)
1K8 920 983 (Colour Display)
1K8 920 983B (Scirocco R Colour Display)
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: georgekeemo on November 10, 2014, 04:09:03 pm
Hey ed ,impressive work you had done on theese cars  mate ,i have a question. I have a 2004 mk5 1.6fsi ,would it be possible to fit a colered or white cluster on mine? i was looking in to buy a highline cluster ,the red one , but i found this topic and raz's ride topic ,and i'm in love. cheers mate !
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: RetroRaz on November 10, 2014, 04:11:07 pm
Hey ed ,impressive work you had done on theese cars  mate ,i have a question. I have a 2004 mk5 1.6fsi ,would it be possible to fit a colered or white cluster on mine? i was looking in to buy a highline cluster ,the red one , but i found this topic and raz's ride topic ,and i'm in love. cheers mate !

Red one can be easily done, for the coloured one I think it depends on which ABS module you have.

Eddie can verify it for you though :)
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: georgekeemo on November 10, 2014, 04:32:04 pm
thanks for the reply ,considering my mk5 is '04 , i think i need a newer one. cheers raz
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 10, 2014, 08:47:20 pm
2004 - 2006 probably need to upgrade to a newer ABS pump (this could have happend due to VW wanting to replace ABS pumps due to the G201 fault before they started doing goodwill and releasing a repair kit)

Older cars would also require a newer Gateway
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: georgekeemo on November 11, 2014, 08:10:18 am
I understand ,i found a '08 cluster for my mk5 ,can it be fited on my car? Cheers
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 11, 2014, 11:47:09 pm
I understand ,i found a '08 cluster for my mk5 ,can it be fited on my car? Cheers

yes
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: galaxie500 on November 12, 2014, 09:03:19 am
Dare I ask the cost of the Scirocco cluster new from VW?!  It would look fantastic.....but my wife is sure to notice!
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 12, 2014, 07:11:33 pm
a new cluster is around £800 from vw
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: nadlad on November 29, 2014, 10:01:50 pm
Hi i have 3 sets of scirrocco white display full fis clusters for sale let me know if interested will work with eds magic in the mk5, these are the 180mph style ones in classifieds
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: kmo17 on December 22, 2014, 07:02:11 pm
Hey guys, i'm having a difficult time finding a cluster for my car , i have a '05 petrol mk5. I found some clusters of a 2008-2009 mk5 ,beautifull ,and very cheap. My problem is ,i read about this retrofit and learned it's very hard to adapt a immo4c cluster on my car. Can anyone help me with a thread ,or someone who can help me? What kind of gear ,gadgets, and so on i need for this to happen. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Shoduchi on December 22, 2014, 07:32:39 pm
You need someone with the tools that Eddie-NL has + his expertise.
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on December 22, 2014, 07:46:17 pm
Hey guys, i'm having a difficult time finding a cluster for my car , i have a '05 petrol mk5. I found some clusters of a 2008-2009 mk5 ,beautifull ,and very cheap. My problem is ,i read about this retrofit and learned it's very hard to adapt a immo4c cluster on my car. Can anyone help me with a thread ,or someone who can help me? What kind of gear ,gadgets, and so on i need for this to happen. Thanks in advance.

It might help if you give your location
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: kmo17 on December 23, 2014, 09:45:41 am
i'm not from uk ,it would be great to have someone here where i am with the skills of eddie. The codding of a immo4c cand be done remotely ? i would pay full price via paypal if someone could help me code them remotely. cheers
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on December 23, 2014, 04:11:44 pm
where are you?
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: kmo17 on December 23, 2014, 04:14:38 pm
I'm from romania eddie...
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: olsen-72 on December 23, 2014, 06:49:35 pm
Transylvania District?
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: kmo17 on December 23, 2014, 07:40:50 pm
Nearby mate , a couple kilometers south. Cheers
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: olsen-72 on December 23, 2014, 08:07:16 pm
I've been there few times. Timisoara, Craiova and Pitesti, delivering machinery. Sorry for the OT guys
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: kmo17 on December 29, 2014, 08:18:02 am
Searched all over the place ,on all possible forums and subforums ,nobody can help with remotely codding my cluster.. cheers guys !
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on January 03, 2015, 05:15:10 pm
Searched all over the place ,on all possible forums and subforums ,nobody can help with remotely codding my cluster.. cheers guys !

if it was possible than i would

the problem is you can gain remote access and do the job but the tool to read your immo is not where your car is.
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: georgekeemo on January 09, 2015, 02:38:15 pm
Hey guys ,managed to get some pritty awesome GTI clocks ,of a '05  ,perfect for my car. I have a single problem with them. The clocks where on a uk spec gti ,so the dials are in miles. I'm from estern europe so i would like to convert them in km. I know i can convert them using vagcom but i would like to change the whole dial into a km. Anybody done this ,do you know any company that produces just the dials ? cheers and thanks in advance
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: xjay1337 on January 20, 2015, 10:18:32 am
Just get the foils for it.
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: stonecold on March 09, 2015, 09:31:52 am
I have on my mk5 Jetta the the following ABS pump. (only ASR, without ESP).

Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 P
   Component: ASR FRONT MK70      0105 
   Coding: 0017025
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000

Is it possible for me to upgrade to the white / color clock without changing the ABS pump?

Thanks.

Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: stonecold on April 24, 2015, 12:58:24 pm
Hi @Eddie-NL (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2345) , sorry for re bumping this thread.

I have found this version of the color clocks (5n0920882c) which is 2012+. Will it work with any of the 2009+ ASR only ABS pump that you posted earlier in this thread? Right now I have "1K0 907 379 P" installed on my car, which I know it won't work

Works ok:
1K0 907 379 Q
1K0 907 379 AA
1K0 907 379 AC
1K0 907 379 AF (non ESP Caddy)

 The reason I am asking you this, it's because I may have an opportunity to upgrade only the ABS pump real cheaper than doing the ESP retrofit to my car  :happy2:
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: catalinTDI on August 23, 2016, 10:06:55 am
Hello,

Can you help me with some info regarding an instrument cluster that I found for sale on ebay:
The part no. is 5M0-920-971-A. Is this instrument cluster highline? Does is shows the car with the opened doors and the audio, navi and phone menu?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on September 17, 2016, 07:33:24 pm
that is a highline

what displays will depend on what you have fiited to your car
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: sebp75 on April 19, 2017, 12:38:12 pm
Will have to bump it up. Need some help.
Hello Ed . Bought staff off u on eBay and then I found u on gti forum, that u retrofitting white/colour clocks to mk5 platform. The question I have for u now is what would I need to do it on mine golf 2004 gt tdi 2.0 ?
Know the abs pump, clocks and adapter, what I've already bought. Clocks are 5M0920970BX and the abs pump/module is 1K0614117S - PUMP 1K0907379AK - MODULE. Have the gateway changed already for 7no AM. Will the abs pump straight fit or is the plug different pinout and the pipes have different ends? That's what I was told or can I just change the module on the old pump. Car has ESP button in it. Is it doable at all ?
Cheers Seb
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: ady-uk on April 20, 2017, 08:24:41 am
Will have to bump it up. Need some help.
Hello Ed . Bought staff off u on eBay and then I found u on gti forum, that u retrofitting white/colour clocks to mk5 platform. The question I have for u now is what would I need to do it on mine golf 2004 gt tdi 2.0 ?
Know the abs pump, clocks and adapter, what I've already bought. Clocks are 5M0920970BX and the abs pump/module is 1K0614117S - PUMP 1K0907379AK - MODULE. Have the gateway changed already for 7no AM. Will the abs pump straight fit or is the plug different pinout and the pipes have different ends? That's what I was told or can I just change the module on the old pump. Car has ESP button in it. Is it doable at all ?
Cheers Seb

If changing to a much later ABS pump, in 2004 golf, you may need to change from gen1 to later (gen3) steering rack also......
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: DeWet on January 10, 2018, 03:23:53 am

Which MK70 ABS controller would be best to work with a white cluster? I seen part numbers for the MK60 modules but not a MK70.

My car had a MK70 ABS unit consiting of a 1K0 907 379 P ABS controller with 1K0 614 117 H ABS module.

Coding was 0017025

(No TPMS and standard suspension)

I tried replacing with a unit from a Caddy but the brake lines was different so I ended up putting the Caddy controller (1K0 907 379 AF) onto my ABS module but couldnt get the coding correct.

On my cluster, both ABS and ASR lights are on

Current Coding is 16641 (it didnt want to accept 0017025 even if the values from 404 Not Found) adds up to that)

and error code is

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded

003 - Mechanical Failure

Can anyone help me out?

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Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: DeWet on January 12, 2018, 11:18:18 am
Hi @Eddie-NL (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2345) , sorry for re bumping this thread.

I have found this version of the color clocks (5n0920882c) which is 2012+. Will it work with any of the 2009+ ASR only ABS pump that you posted earlier in this thread? Right now I have "1K0 907 379 P" installed on my car, which I know it won't work

Works ok:
1K0 907 379 Q
1K0 907 379 AA
1K0 907 379 AC
1K0 907 379 AF (non ESP Caddy)

 The reason I am asking you this, it's because I may have an opportunity to upgrade only the ABS pump real cheaper than doing the ESP retrofit to my car  :happy2:

Did you ever work this out stonecold?

I tried replacing my P controller with an AF from a Caddy but now cant get it coded with the ABS and ASR lights burning on my cluster
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on January 29, 2018, 03:42:27 pm

Which MK70 ABS controller would be best to work with a white cluster? I seen part numbers for the MK60 modules but not a MK70.

My car had a MK70 ABS unit consiting of a 1K0 907 379 P ABS controller with 1K0 614 117 H ABS module.

Coding was 0017025

(No TPMS and standard suspension)

I tried replacing with a unit from a Caddy but the brake lines was different so I ended up putting the Caddy controller (1K0 907 379 AF) onto my ABS module but couldnt get the coding correct.

On my cluster, both ABS and ASR lights are on

Current Coding is 16641 (it didnt want to accept 0017025 even if the values from 404 Not Found) adds up to that)

and error code is

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded

003 - Mechanical Failure

Can anyone help me out?

Sent from my SM-N920I using Tapatalk

Your issue is due to wiring

Change the wire from pin 25 to pin 15
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: DeWet on January 29, 2018, 08:06:02 pm

Your issue is due to wiring

Change the wire from pin 25 to pin 15
Great thanks Eddie.....so just to make sure, the AF controller from the caddy is ok and will work when I just move the  pin you mentioned? (Havent looked yet but its not 2 wires to swap, just 1 to move right?)

Then the coding in VCDS will work?
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: DeWet on February 02, 2018, 11:32:19 am


Your issue is due to wiring

Change the wire from pin 25 to pin 15

Eddie, I just managed to have a look at the wiring on my car and there doesnt seem to be a wire in 25.
Not sure if its just a bit hidden but I first wanted to look before I strip the battery box out to get more access.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180202/200cc4491e58bb503c895d375e598da7.jpg)

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Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: nujo on February 10, 2018, 09:59:38 am
DeWet i'm in the same situation as you described. Did you managed to solve that problem?
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on February 10, 2018, 07:30:12 pm
look at the wiring on the other side

the loop is in the wrong place, that is why you have the mechanical failure

you should be bale to tweak the coding
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Andy on February 10, 2018, 11:03:08 pm
good to see you on here Ed
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: DeWet on February 11, 2018, 07:22:37 am
DeWet i'm in the same situation as you described. Did you managed to solve that problem?
Nope Nujo, still driving around with the ABS lights on my new cluster. Just to check, do you also have the P controller and the original dont work with the white cluster?
My back up plan was to put my old controller back and hope for the best.

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Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: DeWet on February 11, 2018, 07:27:27 am
look at the wiring on the other side

the loop is in the wrong place, that is why you have the mechanical failure

you should be bale to tweak the coding
Thanks for the reply Eddie.
When you say wiring on the other side, are you saying I must look on yhe controller side as in open the controller and check which pins are in use on the electronics board?

Im not sure what the loop is you are refering too......Im not too knowledgeable when it co es to the electronic parts of the  mods I do to my car.

Again thanks for the help and info

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Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: nujo on February 11, 2018, 08:29:13 am
DeWet i'm in the same situation as you described. Did you managed to solve that problem?
Nope Nujo, still driving around with the ABS lights on my new cluster. Just to check, do you also have the P controller and the original dont work with the white cluster?
My back up plan was to put my old controller back and hope for the best.

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Yes it was P controller and it doesn't work with white cluster.

look at the wiring on the other side

the loop is in the wrong place, that is why you have the mechanical failure

you should be bale to tweak the coding

So Eddie-NL you are saying what we need to put jumper between pin 15 and 25 inside ABS module control unit? Pins 15 and 25 on the ABS plug  are empty and non off other wires from the plug are going to the pins with those numbers.
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Eddie-NL on February 15, 2018, 03:17:34 pm
look at the wiring on the other side

the loop is in the wrong place, that is why you have the mechanical failure

you should be bale to tweak the coding
Thanks for the reply Eddie.
When you say wiring on the other side, are you saying I must look on yhe controller side as in open the controller and check which pins are in use on the electronics board?

Im not sure what the loop is you are refering too......Im not too knowledgeable when it co es to the electronic parts of the  mods I do to my car.

Again thanks for the help and info

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Take the plastic backing off the plug so you can see the wires

there is a wire from one pin to another

that has to be moved
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: DeWet on February 16, 2018, 03:54:47 am
look at the wiring on the other side

the loop is in the wrong place, that is why you have the mechanical failure

you should be bale to tweak the coding
Thanks for the reply Eddie.
When you say wiring on the other side, are you saying I must look on yhe controller side as in open the controller and check which pins are in use on the electronics board?

Im not sure what the loop is you are refering too......Im not too knowledgeable when it co es to the electronic parts of the  mods I do to my car.

Again thanks for the help and info

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Take the plastic backing off the plug so you can see the wires

there is a wire from one pin to another

that has to be moved
Thanks mate. We had a look at the wiring diagrams and it seems to be pin 19 that needs to go to 17.

I will give it a go this weekend.

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Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: DeWet on February 19, 2018, 01:00:28 pm
For everyone who has the MK70 ABS module in their Golf Mk5s (usually with controller ending in P), the AF version of the controller works perfectly for an upgrade to a white cluster.

All thats needed is to move th loop wire's pin 19 to pin 17.

Thanks to Eddie-NL that tipped us off on this fact. Following the wiring diagrams on ErWin showed which wire to move.

The black cap clips off by using a thin flat screwdriver to get under the 2 clip positions on each side. Just cut off the cable tie that goes around the wiring and reolace afterwards.
The pink sliding clip on the bottom picture allows you to pull the wire from the connector and I used a sewing needle to pull the white cap from the empty pin 17.

After this I cleared the error code and just programmed it again with the code I previously coded after replacing the controller.

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Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: nujo on February 26, 2018, 08:45:14 pm
Hi everyone,
I'am making the same modification as DeWet did and now i'am stuck with one abs fault:

 Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70M.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AF    HW: 1K0 907 379 AF
   Component: MABS MK70M          0104 
   Revision: 00H32001   
   Coding: 0016641
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 76E47EF701D49A8E77-8022

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
            008 - Implausible Signal

Could anyone help me to find solution? Thank you in advance
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: ballcrusher on June 25, 2018, 02:35:42 am
Hi Eddie-NL is there a price for me to come to you to do all the changes over clocks coding and so on.....thanks
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Pissat4motion on December 12, 2018, 06:59:11 pm
How much simpler does this swap become if your car is running on an IMMO defeat?
Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Pissat4motion on May 19, 2019, 12:16:05 am
look at the wiring on the other side

the loop is in the wrong place, that is why you have the mechanical failure

you should be bale to tweak the coding
What is this code tweaking of which you speak? Done the swap and have the abs/esp error. ABS is good and coding hasn't been changed.
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Title: Re: Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT
Post by: Tharkhold on August 01, 2019, 06:35:10 pm
Hi,

I've been following this thread for a while, great info and work!  I plan to do a similar upgrade on my Mk5 Rabbit (ASR70/Lowline to ESP60EC1/colour :) )

I've posted a request on ross-tech, but can anyone help me with my converstion from MK70 ASR to MK60EC1?

I've got the unit, and a couple of spare mk6 abs connectors., but the connections for Mk6's in Canada seems to be slightly different than the USA (RoW?)

I opened a connector I got from an scrapped MK6 (VIN 3VWDX7AJ9CM342753):

(https://i.imgur.com/Gp1xRr0.png)

Comparing to this:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4348/36352890740_09cc194700_o.jpg)

The "FR" sensor wires are a different color, I don't have a "tire pressure sensor" on 35 or an "ESP switch" wire on 39.

I know that TPMS was conpulsory in the USA from 2007+... not so much here.

I'm also not sure why there wouldn't be a wire for the "ESC switch" though since it's in the car - direct fit/use with my current "asr" button?

Is Eddie still in here for coding my MK60EC1 unit to my car? (I have my autoscan available :) )

Cheers


Edit: I don't want to hijack the thread, I thought that it was similar enough to warrant an 'add' on this thread; and I can't seem to find alot of information on MK70 ASR to MK60EC1 conversion (in English!).