MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: pudding on January 22, 2022, 11:46:30 am

Title: Finally! OEM uprated small end dogbone bush.
Post by: pudding on January 22, 2022, 11:46:30 am
Ordered a new dogbone from AKS and to my surprise, VW have finally ditched the voids  :drinking:

https://www.akstuning.co.uk/shop/home/547-genuine-dog-bone-mount.html

Haven't fitted it yet but hopefully it will finally solve the annoying engine shunting at urban speeds when changing gear, and coming on/off the throttle.

For those not aware, the factory bush on previous versions was voided (in the fore/aft direction - bad idea!) which was good for refinement, but terrible at keeping the engine steady during gear changes.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51835810338_d4c2e17f81_k.jpg)

Shout out to AKS for their continued great service.  Ordered Thursday evening and arrived this morning.  They also let me specify Royal Mail over DPD as I've had problems with them dumping my parcels at other people's houses without my consent, and not leaving a calling card.

Title: Re: Finally! OEM uprated small end dogbone bush.
Post by: RBS on January 22, 2022, 12:07:53 pm
Is that an original bushing or a Vibra Technics one?? Look original VW?!
Title: Re: Finally! OEM uprated small end dogbone bush.
Post by: Andy on January 22, 2022, 12:22:38 pm
I fitted the revo one with the vwr mount and so much better and no movement
Title: Re: Finally! OEM uprated small end dogbone bush.
Post by: pudding on January 22, 2022, 12:27:11 pm
Original VW.  It does look like the Vibratechnics one though  :happy2:

For comparison, the top one is Vibratechnics and the other two are the older style OEM bush.  With the newest part number dog bone, VW have basically copied what Vibratechnics did, but not quite as stiff  :happy2:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51834802992_67ed88f9c7_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally! OEM uprated small end dogbone bush.
Post by: colesey on January 22, 2022, 12:55:33 pm
I fitted the revo one with the vwr mount and so much better and no movement

Which upper mounts do you have Andy? I have the vibra small dog bone / updated bolts / original vwr subframe made by vibra / 034 street engine mounts and still find the engine rocks around too much. Perhaps the subframe bushing is now goosed after @12 years use?!?
Title: Re: Finally! OEM uprated small end dogbone bush.
Post by: RBS on January 22, 2022, 01:16:07 pm
@ Pudding
Interresting! VW has finaly come to senses!
Title: Re: Finally! OEM uprated small end dogbone bush.
Post by: JoshB on January 24, 2022, 04:36:31 pm
How much? Mine lurches on gear changes..
Title: Re: Finally! OEM uprated small end dogbone bush.
Post by: pudding on January 24, 2022, 07:00:22 pm
Link in the first post, but £70 with the newer updated bolts.
Title: Re: Finally! OEM uprated small end dogbone bush.
Post by: Andy on January 24, 2022, 09:51:05 pm
I fitted the revo one with the vwr mount and so much better and no movement

Which upper mounts do you have Andy? I have the vibra small dog bone / updated bolts / original vwr subframe made by vibra / 034 street engine mounts and still find the engine rocks around too much. Perhaps the subframe bushing is now goosed after @12 years use?!?
I have the 034motorsport top mounts and my engine hardly moves
Title: Re: Finally! OEM uprated small end dogbone bush.
Post by: Andy on January 24, 2022, 09:52:08 pm
eature=share

Revved to 4k
Title: Re: Finally! OEM uprated small end dogbone bush.
Post by: colesey on January 25, 2022, 01:29:48 pm
Thanks Andy, I may need to replace the subframe puck.
Title: Re: Finally! OEM uprated small end dogbone bush.
Post by: Andy on January 25, 2022, 02:20:04 pm
Thanks Andy, I may need to replace the subframe puck.
Definitely worth doing..i had a very very slight vibration though the peddles on tick for the first  500 miles which is normal but has now gone
Title: Re: Finally! OEM uprated small end dogbone bush.
Post by: pudding on January 25, 2022, 03:26:49 pm
As I've said before, if you have the blue VWR version of the Vibratechnics subframe mount, replace it with Vibratechnics own version.

Andy has the V6, so not a like-for-like comparison.  Much smoother engine.
Title: Re: Finally! OEM uprated small end dogbone bush.
Post by: colesey on January 25, 2022, 07:42:16 pm
As I've said before, if you have the blue VWR version of the Vibratechnics subframe mount, replace it with Vibratechnics own version.

Mine is so ancient, it predates the poly version and is simply a relabelled vibra.
Title: Re: Finally! OEM uprated small end dogbone bush.
Post by: pudding on January 29, 2022, 04:57:38 pm
Fitted the new dogbone today and it's made a huge difference.  Much better shifting, especially going down through the gears.  4th to 2nd in particular always was a vague and inconsistent lottery, but it's very precise now. Zero increase in NVH (remarkable given it's a solid bush) and with rushed/clumsy gearshifts, the engine no longer feels like a randy Gibbon jumping around under there.  I'd call that a win  :drinking:

As I've said before, if you have the blue VWR version of the Vibratechnics subframe mount, replace it with Vibratechnics own version.

Mine is so ancient, it predates the poly version and is simply a relabelled vibra.

Ah OK. Well I think you will have the same problem I faced today then.  The upper bush's threaded insert parts company with the rubber.  Worst case - you can't remove the bolt, or in my case, it came out OK but I couldn't torque the bolt back up again.  It's probably only tightened to half what it should be.  The threaded part just spins.  I've had 2 of them go the same way.  I'm not sure I can recommend VT any more. Pretty sh1t for a £150+ mount. I will feed it back to AKS Tuning to pass onto VT.
Title: Re: Finally! OEM uprated small end dogbone bush.
Post by: colesey on January 30, 2022, 06:16:31 am
Try the braided clutch line next Kev. Getting rid of the swirl pot as well as bleeder block restrictor makes for a lighter and more positive pedal with quicker gear change.